Skip to comments.*Breaking* Due to Procedure, Obama and DNC Admit all Allegations
Posted on 10/21/2008 6:05:29 AM PDT by Calpernia
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1) If he is ineligible to be a US Senator, would any votes that he participated in be voided?
2) As for the riots: LOCK AND LOAD!
So, did BHO’s mom know about the other wives in Kenya and didn’t care — She was only 17 when she met BHO Sr. and had Barak at 18. I bet the last thing on her mind was getting married, especially if she knew about the other wives. Hard to know what if any of this so-called History of Obama is true. Maybe BHO doesn’t want the birth certificate publicized because his mom wasn’t married. As if that would bother any of the people who worship him so much. No, we have something much more nefarious going on here. If he has to step down due to not being a natural born citizen, I guarantee you, he and his minions will do all they can to get the Constitution amended so that we can legally vote for the Messiah. Any State not approving the amendment will be deemed racist and will have boycotts and chaos like never seen before.
“Maybe this is what Joe Biden was referring to as a international crises”
bump for later
Manny Ramirez’s grandmother died twice and he got away with it. Even though she’s not dead. First we had “Manny being Manny”. Now we have “Obama being Obama”.
Hawaii Supreme Court asked to issue emergency writ opening secret Obama birth files
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How’s that Peter Paul/Hillary suit going? This kind of stuff is a waste of time.
“So this is really, really breaking.”
Darn straight it is!
This is Andy’s:
Hawaii Supreme Court asked to issue emergency writ opening secret Obama birth files
And this post is making me wonder if Obama’s team just didn’t screw up.
SNIP: *He is not required to respond to discovery until the court rules on the motion for protective order. *
RESPONSE: *Berg cites in post #32 section 10 that states Civil Procedure, Rule 36(a) mandates that the defense respond to the admission request regardless of the motion to stay discovery since that hasnt been ruled on yet.*
I think this is what happened.
Lol! I don’t think Joe consults with his own self.
The Court has a balancing act to perform here. If done properly, the Judicial branch should interfere a little as possible with executive functions like elections. It should not even want to be seen as effecting an election. Obamas lawyers know this, and will take advantage of it. The campaign wants tight control over what is in the news cycle. It does not want and factual statements from Obama about his citizenship in the news. They will take a hit on procedure in the case because the campaing is more important.
There will be plenty of time after the election to get through discovery and have a plenary hearing. The Judge has the power to grant temporary restraining order staying the Oath of Office if Obama really plays games.
Andy Martin BUMP!
la la la la laaaaaa hmmm hmmmmmmmmm i’m waitinggggg
“..and what will become of this even if he stood on a podium and proclaimed he was ineligible- my bet is nothing.”
“Nothing really matters, nothing really matters, nothing really matters at all. Take me wehere the wind blows.”
Bump for later
Yep. The dude is afraid of commiting perjury. If he were white, his goose would be cooked.
>>>If he is ineligible to be a US Senator, would any votes that he participated in be voided?
..I know that you have sent this to everybody, but I sent this to Drudge again
Admit you were born in Kenya.
Admit you are a Kenya natural born citizen.
Admit your foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii.
Admit your father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr., admitted Paternity of you.
Admit your mother gave birth to you in Mombosa, Kenya.
Admit your mothers maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.
Admit the COLB [Certification of Live Birth] posted on the website Fightthesmears.com is a forgery.
Admit you were adopted by a Foreign Citizen.
Admit you were adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia.
Admit you were not born in Hawaii.
Admit you are a citizen of Indonesia.
Admit you never took the Oath of Allegiance to regain your U.S. Citizenship status.
Admit you are not a natural born United States citizen. Admit your senior campaign staff is aware you are not a natural born United States Citizen.
Admit the United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a natural born United States citizen.
Admit you are ineligible pursuant to the United States Constitution to serve as President and/or Vice President of the United States.
Admit you are an idiot
Can’t get a Constitutional amendment rammed thru in 2 weeks.
You know it take much more than one send. Everyone should send this out all day!
I tend to agree. If the court has not ruled on the protective order or motion to stay discovery, then the admissions/denials are due. The way to get around it is to request an order shortening time and a temporary order until the motion is adjudicated on its merits or file the response under seal dependent upon the court’s order. This is like playskool civil procedure. Did Obama’s legal team goof?
Check out post 175
“For the sake of the country, theyll have to let it slide this time. Because it would be racism and it would cause rioting throughout the land. So, this one time, its ok. Thats all folks.”
That is the most outrageous thought I’ve heard all day. You forgot to put the sarcasm tag on right? Right?!!
None of the cases cited by Berg involved a motion for protective order being filed in response to discovery. The parties in those cases simply failed to respond to the RFAs, and did so without seeking a protective order. No court will deem RFAs admitted where a protective order is sought under such circumstances. That would be reversible error.
Keep your eye on the ball.
Hey that ought to have its own thread
What BETTER way than the CONSTITUTIONAL way?
Please see Aritcle II, Section 1 which states:
except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office
who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been
fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Pretty cut and dried.
Okay, I’m not a lawyer, so let me pose this scenario to you:
Obama’s lawyers cannot provide good cause why the process should be delayed nor can they cannot simply show a birth certificate. Therefore, Berg basically wins by default.
So, what happens now? Can Obama appeal? If so, can Berg request an emergency hearing? In the meantime does the judge’s ruling that Berg wins by default stand or will it be stayed by the higher court?
I guess that the last question will be determined by the politics of the appellate court judge.
I wasn’t talking about amending the Constitution now - I am talking about the bigger picture after Obama loses or has to step down. These people are very patient in their long march (Ayers and Dorn are good examples). They are highly focused on their goals to transform America into their vision. The Conservatives and other Patriots are not too focused and disciplined, which is okay when the Enemy Within is not as strong as they are now and will be in the near future.
That is what I’m thinking based on the wording in post 123.
“The Judge has the power to grant temporary restraining order staying the Oath of Office if Obama really plays games.”
That is interesting. May I ask what is the authority for that view? Thanks.
You sound like you might be a lawyer so I’ll ask you this: does a motion for a protective order mean that even if it’s not ruled on all motions that require a response by a given time can be ignored until the judge rules on the protective order motion? If so that would be a major oversight by Berg, who appears to be a competent attorney.
What ever happened to Corsi why is he not on Hannity?
I don't know.
I wondered that as well.
They did not file answers or objections or anything else to the request for admissions we served upon them on September 15, Berg said to me shortly before midnight, noting that Obama and the DNC did in fact acknowledge service of the admission in their motion for protective order. They knew the admissions were due. They knew they must object or answer specifically in 30 days. Here, they did nothing.
That they responded with a motion for protective order instead of admitting or denying each of the RFAs does not mean that the RFAs are deemed admitted by automatic operation of Rule 36. The court will either deny the motion for protective order and direct Obama to respond to discovery, or grant the motion and then rule on the motion to dismiss.
From Wright & Miller, Federal Practice & Procedure § 2040:
Ever since the days of the former equity bill for discovery there has been applied to discovery the principle of judicial parsimony, by which, when one issue may be determinative of a case, the court has discretion to stay discovery on other issues until the critical issue has been decided. In accordance with this principlea salutary principle if it is applied sparingly and with real discretion rather than as an absolute rulea court may decide that in a particular case it would be wise to stay discovery on the merits until challenges to jurisdiction have been resolved.I would not waste a breath of my precious life paying any attention to this case unless there were nothing else to do in the world.
But if the restraining/delaying/whatever order is not _granted_, which apparently it wasn’t, isn’t the point moot and today is BHO’s last day to either put up or [be] shut up? Just _asking_ for restraint/delay/dismissal isn’t grounds for not meeting an otherwise effective deadline.
I see nothing wrong the media totally ignoring this. I mean if there was multiple lawsuits claiming Sarah Palin had possible been born in Canada I’m sure the MSM would just let it slide. /s
Oh, it won't be over then either. Please see Odinga's Kenyan experience - AND - what they have planned for here if bHo loses.
About 1/2 way down the thread.
Methinks a lot of these hardcore ‘60s Leftists are reaching the practical end of their political lives, and are likely to retire/expire before they get their next big chance (no matter how hard they work for it now) to get one of Them POTUS. Pushing for a suitable amendment just won’t be worth their trouble because it will take too long and do too little. BHO fails at this, he’s damaged goods, they won’t want him back.
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