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A Closer Look At The Birth Certificate
The Bulletin ^ | 10/21/08 | John Connely

Posted on 10/21/2008 9:14:12 AM PDT by pissant

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To: pissant

Yes, factcheck.org is funded by Annenberg, but then the “FightTheSmears” web site that put out the low resolution photo is a part of the Obama campaign.

The certification may be a forgery, but if any serious attempt were to be made to do an analysis of it, that attempt would use the very high resolution photos on factcheck.org rather than the low resolution photos on fightthesmears.com.

That people are still referring to the low resolution photograph, as if that has any relevance at all after the release of the high resolution photographs, shows that they are simply not serious.


41 posted on 10/21/2008 9:44:25 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Citizen Blade; tirednvirginia

Virginia, Citizen blade is a troll that rushes to the defense of Obama every time this subject comes up. You can safely ignore its ignorance.


42 posted on 10/21/2008 9:45:40 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

And those photos have been analayzed here in great detail already.


43 posted on 10/21/2008 9:46:38 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Citizen Blade

Conspiracy theories are not always on the left, are they?


44 posted on 10/21/2008 9:47:15 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: pepsionice
Some people (probably a quarter of Freerepublic crowd) believe that the birth certificate issue is legit.

The whole paper trail has to be traced. I believe this is a "true" registration, that came out of an Official Hawaii computer database. However, how did the information get into the computer? How is a baby born at home registered? We know somebody sent a birth announcement to a Hawaii newspaper. Who, the hospital? Maybe. If so, there should be Hospital records proving Obama was born at a particular time, with doctor's signature and height, weight, footprint, etc. THAT IS WHAT WE SEEK.

45 posted on 10/21/2008 9:47:56 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald (Counter Revolutionary for McCain/Palin)
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To: pissant; tirednvirginia

And pissant is a man who is willing to ignore any evidence that contradicts his preconceived notions.

I have no interest in protecting Obama, but I am a fan of facts and the truth, regardless of whether they help my political cause.


46 posted on 10/21/2008 9:48:25 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: pissant

Amazing that Little League Baseball and Pop Warner Football have stricter requirements on proving players’ eligibility than the requirements proving eligibility to run for President of the United States.


47 posted on 10/21/2008 9:50:00 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - but they know what's best.)
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To: tirednvirginia
Conspiracy theories are not always on the left, are they?

Kookery is bi-partisan.

48 posted on 10/21/2008 9:50:26 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Supposedly there is no record of him being born at any hospital in Hawaii.


49 posted on 10/21/2008 9:50:59 AM PDT by teacherbarbie
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

>> That’s what I don’t get and can’t get an answer to, why won’t they touch it?

Its not hard to explain. The only logical explanation is that the issue is a dead-end — and thus a waste of limited campaign and conservative-media resources that need to be devoted to ACTUAL problems with the Obama candidacy.

Sean Hannity gets stuck like a broken-record on ANY issue that could undermine Obama ... and even he doesn’t have the time for this nonsense.

H


50 posted on 10/21/2008 9:51:23 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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To: Citizen Blade

If Obama was born in a hospital in Hawaii, there should be records at the hospital, right? Those records would exonerate Obama. The record at check the facts is legal evidence, but it can be contested, because information to register a birth can be entered different ways, i.e. hospital or parents of the child (in the case of home birth).


51 posted on 10/21/2008 9:51:44 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald (Counter Revolutionary for McCain/Palin)
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To: pissant
By the way, the following is what Phillip Berg is alleging in the court papers in his lawsuit:

Defendant Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961 and it is uncertain in which hospital he claims to have been born. Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Reports reflect that Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy (which, apparently, was a normal restriction, to avoid births during a flight). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama’s birth. There are records of a “registry of birth” for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii.

Given the state of air travel between Kenya and Honolulu in 1961, we can be sure there were no direct flights.

According to Berg's chronology, Obama's mother must have left Kenya literally either the day after giving birth on August 4, or the next day, traveling with a just-born infant, in order to be in Hawaii in time to register the birth on August 8!

52 posted on 10/21/2008 9:52:08 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Hemorrhage
Obama has been vetted by the McCain campaign, the Clinton campaign, all seven or eight DNC primary opponents, the MSM, Fox News, the conservative media (Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, National Review) ... if this were a legit story, SOMEONE would have found SOMETHING.

I disagree. All the democrats took a pass because they knew they would lose the black vote - plain and simple. McCain tried to stay above the fray and until very recently, wouldn't even challenge Obama directly. Since McCain knows the lawsuits have already been filed, it scores him no political points to even broach the subject.

53 posted on 10/21/2008 9:52:57 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: teacherbarbie
Supposedly there is no record of him being born at any hospital in Hawaii.

That's the issue.

54 posted on 10/21/2008 9:52:57 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald (Counter Revolutionary for McCain/Palin)
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To: Hemorrhage

It’s like with Edwards, they all knew but no one dared speak of it until Edwards confessed himself.


55 posted on 10/21/2008 9:54:28 AM PDT by teacherbarbie
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To: Citizen Blade
I have no interest in protecting Obama, but I am a fan of facts and the truth, regardless of whether they help my political cause.

This has been stated a million times already but what Obama has given us is his Certification of Live Birth, which anyone in Hawaii can get if their parents are from there. Even Obama's sister, who was born in Thailand has one of those.

We want to see the Certificate of Live Birth, or the long form and it is not a "conspiracy" or tin foil to request it. As others have correctly pointed out, if this were a GOP candidate the msm would be all over it like flies to honey.

Enough of the hypocrisy and double standard.

56 posted on 10/21/2008 9:55:01 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Who said that they registered the birth with baby in hand. Could granny and gramps have done so. I’m not even convinced he was registered properly. It could have been done after the fact.


57 posted on 10/21/2008 9:57:02 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
What if Obama was born halfway back to Hawaii, say if they stopped in Indonesia (I have no idea if that's the route they took)? Then he might have an Indonesian BC already and there would be no trouble getting him back into school there later. There would be no renouncing of US citizenship on the Indonesian side.

Just speculation on my part. Where would a flight from Kenya to Hawaii make stops?

58 posted on 10/21/2008 9:57:12 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald (Counter Revolutionary for McCain/Palin)
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To: Citizen Blade

Then give us some facts and truth, because so far you are blowing nothing but foul smoke, sally.


59 posted on 10/21/2008 9:57:57 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Hemorrhage

Hemorrhage, you seem quite fond of defending 0bama’s position. What’s up with that? None of us should have any problem with requiring an applicant for the most powerful position in the world to affirmatively prove his eligibility. His secrecy is the foundation for our concern that he’s not qualified for the office. The onus is on him to prove he’s eligible to serve. This isn’t an “innocent until proven guilty” situation like in a criminal court.


60 posted on 10/21/2008 9:58:18 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((( Vote McCain as if your life depends on it. It just might. )))
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