Skip to comments.My Motherís Birth Certificate...And Obamaís
Posted on 10/23/2008 8:38:16 AM PDT by The_Tick_01
Four years ago, when I had just about completed the lengthy legal and financial vetting process required by the U.S. government to place my then-92-year-old-mother in a nursing home, I was asked to produce her birth certificate as proof of her citizenship. While she was born in America, had voted in every election for untold decades, and paid her taxes religiously, that wasnt good enough to qualify my elderly mother deaf, legally blind, and confined to a wheelchair to be admitted to the facility I had chosen for her near my home.
Frankly, I didnt think finding my mothers birth certificate was possible, given the fact that she had been born in a farmhouse in Storrs, CT, along with nine of her 10 siblings, to parents who didnt speak English. Despairing that she would never be qualified to receive the care she desperately needed, I set about to find the document, which I was sure had vanished in the unreliable record-keeping of 1913.
First I called an official in Hartford, the capitol of Connecticut, who recommended that I call the Storrs record-keeping office.
That took two minutes.
Next I called the Storrs office and was told to call another number.
That took two minutes.
When I called the third number, I explained to the woman who answered the phone that I was asking something impossible. I gave her my mothers first name and her fathers last name.
Within four minutes, she said, Here it is! She had found my mothers birth certificate, and it surprised me when I learned my mothers real first name and real last name had changed significantly as she and her family became Americanized.
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Nathan, you are spot on.
They’ll look at the Constitutional requirements for the Presidency, they’ll give Obamama points for being 35 years of age, they’ll give him points for being a resident of the United States for 14 years and they’ll conclude that 67% is a passing grade even if he only clicks on two of three.
I don’t udnerstand why Obama is having difficulty getting his? I have both my original with footprints in the fire safe and a short while ago went, paid $17 and go a stamped copy at the dept of records, took all of 5 minutes. What is the problem Obama?
You got it! Thanks so much. Now, so Ill know how to use the Search feature better in the future, and not have to bother anyonehow on earth did you do that?
But this has changed, the new rule is : Questioning or Doubting BHO is a form of racism.
I never thought I'd say this but Geraldine Ferraro was right - had BHO been white he would have been ignored, or named John Edwards.
Too literal for you? Or not paranoid enough?
Here’s a scenario I wouldn’t mind seeing:
Zerobama ekes out a narrow victory next month, then it’s conclusively proven that he isn’t eligible to serve and he and Biden are disqualified and we either have a new election or the winner becomes McCain, the candidate that got the next-largest number of electoral votes.
Can anyone tell me if there are any laws that would make this scenario impossible?
I know there will be the usual flames about rioting if Zerobama is stripped of his victory, but that’s okay. The liberals will primarily burn and destroy their own neighborhoods, like they did during the L.A. riots following the Rodney King verdict.
I think if Obama is declared ineligible, but the Obama/Biden ticket won the election, then Biden becomes President. I can't see any scenario where we have a new election or where McCain becomes President after losing the election. Even if Biden were to be disqualified along with Obama, the chain of succession would not include McCain- Nancy Pelosi would become President.
The Secretaries of State and the Federal Election Commission don't seem to care!
My 12 yr. old son can’t play baseball without an original birth certificate!
He couldn't even come close to getting a low-level security clearance, based on his ADMITTED associations - but he might get the codes for the nuclear football.
This is INSANE!!! Stop the world, I want to get off.
he should aim lower .. like being the DNC presidential nominee.
HEY, ZEROBAMA! Here’s all the information you need to get a certified COLB while you’re in Hawaii with all of your lawyers (to visit your grandma - yeah, right): http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html
Want to dispel all doubts, be able to call everyone asking for the information a bunch of racist, paranoid, right-wing nuts? Of course you do - then bring in some cameramen and have them broadcast the entire transaction on LIVE television for the entire world to see. Just $10 gives you this dream - the ability to completely disparage your opposition. Go for it!
What? There’s no record there? Nevermind.
Even if Obama was somehow declared ineligible, McCain would still have to get 270 electoral votes which would be highly unlikely. Biden would probably be President.
There is no reason to believe otherwise than that the constitutional, legal, and moral perversions that are affecting the election will also affect the governance of the Obama administration, judicial review of its laws, media exposure of its crimes, and subsequent elections.
If Zerobama and his minions disregard the Constitution, then there's BIG trouble coming. We the people gave up some of our powers in return for a particular form of government (for our own benefit, mind you, NOT for the benefit of those whom we elect to be temporary custodians of our nation), and if those we entrust our powers were to seriously violate that contract, then all bets are off.
Hypothetically speaking, let's just say that I wouldn't want to be the instantly recognizable guy at the top of the government's food chain - because the food is still alive, and it bites back when you stab it with a fork.
If you suggest that there will be redress of grievances to be had in the federal judiciary, I think this article dealing with the difficulties of obtaining judicial redress, either before or after the election, in a case where President elect is not a "natural born citizen," is instructive.
Legal Issues in Connection With Challenge to Presidential Eligibility Under Article II, Sec. 1 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2113310/posts
If you mean that citizens will have their redress in the future at the ballot box, I can only say that I hope you are right but I see nothing on the horizon is going to damage the Democrat-media-academia axis which is putting Obama in the White House and which is set to utterly dominate our culture.
If you mean that Obama's election is so illegitimate that it justifies some sort of revolution, I point you to my previous post which I set forth here:
I fear that we are kidding ourselves. The days when my great great grandfather took his flint lock from the mantle to fight the British and establish liberty are over. Indeed, the days when my great-grandfather took his smoothbore musket from the mantle to shoot Yankees to protect his vision of his own liberty, are also gone, never to return.
Technology of domestic control will be in the hands of those who control the government. Short of resorting to terrorism, we will have no weapon of violence with any prospect of gaining us our liberties back.
Nathan, should Obama win, and I am becoming more and more certain every day that HE WILL NOT, we will have fully entered into the post-Constitutional phase of the American experiment in Republican democracy.
I do not clearly see where this transition would end. I imagine that we would become progressively more oppressed by our government, that we would become poorer, and more subject to ills such as hyper-inflation, loss of rights of all kinds, depending on the vagaries of the day, more desperate, and more regimented and aggressive as a nation.
Ultimately, I think we would be conquered by someone, and only as we worked our way out from under foreign oppression, could we hope to regain something of our past liberties and governing philosophy.
This is a process that could take a century.
Its been speculated that the judge will issue something either today or tomorrow. Isnt that quit coincidental? Barry is then going to be in Hawaii.”
Which judge on which lawsuit??
There is a Federal District lawsuit in Pennsylvania.
There is a lawsuit in Hawaii asking the state to turn over the records.
There is a lawsuit in Washington asking that the AG of that state not certify Nobama (if he wins) without a birth cert that is valid.
I think there is another lawsuit in Ohio on the same topic as Washington.
How can this guy run for President without even the most miniscule check into his past?
Same way every other candidate has. He won his party’s nomination”
It was the DNC’s responsibility to vet him before even letting him run in the first place. I mean even running in the Primaries!!!
One poster has said he research and Nobama isn’t even legal to be Illinois Senator if he wasn’t born here.
Your last post is disturbing but perhaps prescient and at any rate it gives me an excuse to republish this one:
THE OBAMA PATHOLOGY
The idea of the Authoritarian Personality originated in The Frankfurt School as a means of undermining the position of the father within the family circle and thereby undermine the family itself and ultimately the nation as a bulwark against communism. It was heavily larded with pseudo-Freudian analysis and was expanded to subvert all institutionalized authority. Every season we see an article, usually by some college professor with too much time in his hands or sometimes by psychiatrists acting either singly or in gaggles, opining that the current president, if he be Republican, is somehow psychologically deficient. No Republican president or Republican candidate in my lifetime has escaped this ritual psychoanalysis.
A recent excrescence of this genre is the book by Naomi Wolf in which she ludicrously argues that America, led by George Bush, is on the verge of descending into fascism. I have posted my objection to this sort of pseudoscience and I have tried to debunk this cheap propaganda so I am reluctant to engage hypocritically in the same game now. Well, I am going to do it anyway. I aim to indict about half of our whole society. The half, and likely more than half, that will vote for Barak Obama. My psychological conclusions do not pretend to the trappings of the "science" of the psyche and adorned with the word games of Freudian analysis, rather they are rooted in common sense.
The conclusion of anyone with common sense who has seen the films of innocent children singing their Obama songs or who has watched the quasi-military chanting and saluting of the Obama Youth in military garb must conclude that there is something very, very wrong with these people. I remember when I first saw the YouTube Children singing their Obama song I became conscious after a while that my mouth was gaping open, so appalled was I. My reaction to seeing the paramilitary gang marching into the karate hall was a mixture of embarrassment that these kids would make such fools of themselves and anger that adults would so brazenly manipulate children. Then I felt a creeping sense of unease that there was something potentially very sinister going on. Dear merciful God, this is Orwellian!
Beyond a very healthy repugnance to the spectacle of brainwashed children put on display, beyond the inescapable Maoist symbolism of it all, a commonsense person asks, what kind of man would permit this to go on in his name? What kind of parent would not seek to protect his child from such a man? What kind of pathology would lead parents who presumably love their children to consign those children to the demons of mind control? How could Americans fall for such a transparent cult of personality?
Unfortunately, we need not be uncertain about what kind of man would permit this grotesquerie to be advanced in his name. History provides us with plenty of examples: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Kim Jong-Il come to mind and now we add Barak Obama to the list. Why has he not spoken out and repudiated this? Would not a decent man do so if only for the children?
If Obama will not speak out now as a candidate when a little modesty, even false modesty, would advance his chances, what will he do when he gains office with no resistance anywhere on the horizon; no opposition in either the House or the Senate, no voice in traditional media to be raised against him, no institutional resistance on a national level of any kind organized to discourage him? Because he condones this obscenity one must ask, Is Obama really a narcissist as has been claimed? If so, how far will he go when he has the levers of power in his hands when there is no effective resistance to his ego?
How dangerous is Barak Obama?
Is he too dangerous to be put in a place where he could literally get us all killed? Or Is he the indispensable man in some sense? I do not think so. There is nothing in his career that suggests that he is the man for this season. In a time of war he has no military experience. In a time of looming financial disaster, he has no economic credentials. If he is potentially dangerous and if he is not indispensable, why would so many people want to put him in a position where he could do us harm, even get us all killed?
My commonsense explanation is that there must be a pathology, a mass psychosis, that brings people to the point where not only are they eager to make him the most powerful man in the world but they are invoking his name and calling upon him to be their savior. This they do rather than falling on their knees out of fear of The Real God.
This is the Obama pathology.
To a middle-class conservative who instinctively rejects conspiracy theories and normally wants to think the best of people because that's what he learned in Sunday school, this deification of an empty suit is as bewildering as it is frightening. What in the world are these people thinking? Do they not weigh the risks of consigning their fate to an unqualified man, worse, a person tainted his whole life with stunningly dangerous confederates including felons and Communists and terrorists? What is the upside? What is it about this man whose career is utterly uninterrupted by any accomplishment which would motivate these people to risk their children and my children to whatever he might do to them? How do they know? How can they be sure? Don't they have any doubts?
My problem is that I am seeking after that which I cannot find. I want to find an explanation in logic for a phenomenon of emotion. It is easy for middle-class conservatives to overlook the power of emotion even though history provides plenty of examples even within our own culture in America. Can logic explain why so many drank Jim Jone's Kool aid? Why Charles Manson commanded such blood loyalty? How many cheered OJ Simpson's acquittal? Why did princes Diana's passing traumatize a nation? These are not questions which are answered with everyday commonsense. One almost has to go to the Bible to see the answer in Old Testament allegory which lets us know that evil is and there will always be worshipers of the golden calf.
I fear that in November we conservatives might find ourselves involuntarily embarked upon a journey that is foreign to our epistemology. We may be going into dark places and we might well be pushed into a netherworld where our common sense values are of no use because it is a place where down is up and black is white, a place where gravity does not pull but pushes, a place where we will need a pocket translator in order to converse in English with our government, our children's teachers, and our keepers even though they superficially use the same words we do. We sense we are about to be overwhelmed by forces guided by the ghost of Saul Alinsky.
I fear the downside of the Obama Pathology after his election may extend to dimensions we cannot begin to fasten to our everyday understanding or to our common sense. We have no way of knowing what will come because we don't know anything really about Barak Obama. We do not know if he is purely evil, we do not know if he is a committed communist, we do not know if he is a racist, we do not know if he wishes to see the submergence of the United States into a greater world order, we do not know if he is a megalomaniac, we do not even know, God help us, if he hates America. We do not know, in short, if we are backs - to- the- wall confronted with the Liberals' quadrennial nightmare: A real Authoritarian Personality.
We do know that Barak Obama has already encouraged a cult of personality whose implications are truly frightening and fundamentally un-American.
Even if Obama was somehow declared ineligible, McCain would still have to get 270 electoral votes which would be highly unlikely. Biden would probably be President.”
If Nobama is declared not eligible- then the number of electoral votes he gets would be thrown out and the next highest number would be declared winner??
Biden wasn’t chosen in the Primaries- he was chosen by Nobama and the Dem elites.