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My Motherís Birth Certificate...And Obamaís
The New Media Journal ^ | October 23, 2008 | Joan Swirsky

Posted on 10/23/2008 8:38:16 AM PDT by The_Tick_01

Four years ago, when I had just about completed the lengthy legal and financial vetting process required by the U.S. government to place my then-92-year-old-mother in a nursing home, I was asked to produce her birth certificate as “proof” of her citizenship. While she was born in America, had voted in every election for untold decades, and paid her taxes religiously, that wasn’t good enough to qualify my elderly mother –deaf, legally blind, and confined to a wheelchair – to be admitted to the facility I had chosen for her near my home.

Frankly, I didn’t think finding my mother’s birth certificate was possible, given the fact that she had been born in a farmhouse in Storrs, CT, along with nine of her 10 siblings, to parents who didn’t speak English. Despairing that she would never be “qualified” to receive the care she desperately needed, I set about to find the document, which I was sure had vanished in the unreliable record-keeping of 1913.

First I called an official in Hartford, the capitol of Connecticut, who recommended that I call the Storrs record-keeping office.

That took two minutes.

Next I called the Storrs office and was told to call another number.

That took two minutes.

When I called the third number, I explained to the woman who answered the phone that I was “asking something impossible.” I gave her my mother’s first name and her father’s last name.

Within four minutes, she said, “Here it is!” She had found my mother’s birth certificate, and it surprised me when I learned my mother’s “real” first name and “real” last name had changed significantly as she and her family became Americanized.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichrist; baracknobama; bc; birthcertificate; colb; lawsuit; obamagate; phillipberg
With events in Hawaii putting the spotlight on Obama’s birth certificate, and their refusal to produce a legitimate copy, one has to wonder what they are hiding. A question that is just as big is why are liberals and their media allies not showing the least amount of curiosity with this issue; they simply circle the wagons and avoid finding the truth at all costs.
1 posted on 10/23/2008 8:38:17 AM PDT by The_Tick_01
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To: The_Tick_01

It’s been speculated that the judge will issue something either today or tomorrow. Isn’t that quit coincidental? Barry is then going to be in Hawaii.


2 posted on 10/23/2008 8:41:55 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Digger

I’m sure this guy hasn’t met the requirements.


3 posted on 10/23/2008 8:43:11 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: The_Tick_01

Can’t go there. According to CNN, “birth certificate” is code word for racism. Just like anything else we might ask Barry about.


4 posted on 10/23/2008 8:44:20 AM PDT by tips up
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To: The_Tick_01
As I mentioned here before, I recently was in the running for a government contract and they went through an extremely thorough background check on me. I had to fill out about 25 pages of forms, show every where I lived since birth,show every job I ever had in my life (with names, addesses and phone numbers, show my original Birth Certificate, provide names of people who knew me when I went to high school and most of my relatives and on and on. They now know more about me then my wife does. I fully expected them to put on the rubber gloves at any second.

How can this guy run for President without even the most miniscule check into his past?

5 posted on 10/23/2008 8:44:39 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: The_Tick_01

Connecticut keeps the birth certificates at the town level, not the county or state. This system works very well.

When I had to get my birth certificate, I went to the office in the city of my birth in Connecticut. I walked out in five minutes.

My wife had to contact the socialist province of Ontario. They were back-logged. It took them SEVEN MONTHS!

Keep government small. Keep it close.


6 posted on 10/23/2008 8:44:54 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("[Gov. Sarah Palin] is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger." -- Gloria Steinem)
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To: The_Tick_01
While she was born in America, had voted in every election for untold decades, and paid her taxes religiously, that wasn’t good enough to qualify my elderly mother –deaf, legally blind, and confined to a wheelchair – to be admitted to the facility I had chosen for her near my home.

This is something that is so outrageous that it must change in my lifetime.

Foreign elderly, both legal and illegal, waltz into our moribund Social Security system, into the welfare rolls and all kinds of other bennies, and our domestic citizenry get terrorized at every turn when they can least deal with the "official" BS...

7 posted on 10/23/2008 8:54:04 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: The_Tick_01
Search?
8 posted on 10/23/2008 8:54:20 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Does anyone remember how to search?)
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To: The_Tick_01
I do genealogy and have birth records from 1646 MA Bay Colony. Birth Certificates after about 1950 are only available to immediate family members but again this is not difficult with a letter and a signed affidavit.

It's been stated that BO's mother was married twice the first marriage ending in divorce. If so the divorce record is public record and not hindered by any privacy laws. Since there was a minor child involved in the divorce, there should be some documentation of the minor's birth.

9 posted on 10/23/2008 8:59:33 AM PDT by Shadraq
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To: softwarecreator
How can this guy run for President without even the most miniscule check into his past?

Same way every other candidate has. He won his party's nomination.

10 posted on 10/23/2008 9:03:45 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: The_Tick_01
This is a case where bureaucratic PC business as usual just won't hack it.

If I could not get social security benefits until I could produce a birth certificate after having lived in the United States (legally) most of my life, had the original certificate of Naturalization from 1959, and had held passports since 1968, how the hell can someone expect to run for the highest office in the land without similar scrutiny?

Isn't the bureaucracy complicit here?

11 posted on 10/23/2008 9:06:58 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You certainly have an appropriate name...


12 posted on 10/23/2008 9:08:21 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: The_Tick_01

The elections have already begun. I have already voted, and I had to wait in line to do so. Sen. Obama has successfully stalled his way out of this one. The only way we will ever see his birth certificate is to elect McCain.


13 posted on 10/23/2008 9:08:46 AM PDT by Bertram3 ("Never give up. Never Give up. Never, never, never, never." Churchill)
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To: Publius6961
While the Born in the USA citizenry waits, illegals keep getting free services:

(Add if you are aware of others) Emergency Health care
Free Child Care ACORN
Free English classes ACORN

Free citizenship classes Free public education
Free Heating Oil ACORN
Free Maternal Services WIC
Free stuff Church
Free college Education
Free Driver's License
Free Social Security
Free/Cheap Housing ACORN
Free work benefits ACORN Free help on buying a house ACORN

14 posted on 10/23/2008 9:14:49 AM PDT by indianyogi
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To: ASA Vet

Speaking of “Search”, I have tried to find a post from yesterday about Obama’s real fathers name and for the life of me I cannot find out how to do it. First word I think was “Breaking”, but that brought up nothing. I then added “Obama”, again nothing at least what I was looking for. Finally I added the name “John” since I think that was also in the title. Nothing. I even tried “Archive”. If anyone knows how to bring this up or remembers the post could you let me know? Thanks.


15 posted on 10/23/2008 9:21:11 AM PDT by mupcat
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To: Bertram3
I had to wait in line to do so

Me too. And that is why I think the "youth vote" will not pan out. Turnout in early voting states has been immense, as I'm sure it will be on Nov. 4. I didn't see a lot of 18-25 year-olds. I am sure that many "youth," especially those who are first-time registered, will not have the patience to wait an hour and a half the way I did.
16 posted on 10/23/2008 9:22:56 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: Dr. Sivana

7 months, I got mine in 3 weeks, and I’m in WA State


17 posted on 10/23/2008 9:25:59 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: indianyogi

Not paying income taxes for the most part, either. That’s because they’re either working off the books, not working, or declaring so little income that they get it all back.


18 posted on 10/23/2008 9:30:44 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: mupcat
Here's one, which is locked.

Here's the first one.

19 posted on 10/23/2008 9:33:18 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: The_Tick_01
It does not matter...

It does not matter if after the election it is shown that Obama is constitutionally unqualified to be president of the United States.

It does not matter if after the election it is shown that Obama received hundreds of millions of illegal campaign contributions from abroad.

It does not matter if after the election it is shown that Obama received millions of illegal votes from millions of illegally or registered voters.

It does not matter if any of these constitutional or legal impediments are shown before the election.

It does not matter because the system has broken down. It broke down in the Democrat party when they did not perform their obligations to America properly to vet their candidate. It broke down when George Soros and his cabal funded Obama and in effect subverted the traditional American electoral process. It broke down when the media surrendered every principle is ever laid claim to and went into the tank for Obama. It broke down when the nation failed to convict Bill Clinton in impeachment. It broke down when the great lie that George Bush told the 2000 election was permitted to stand. It broke down when George Bush's cease to defend his administration against critics.

The system is profoundly broken and it has been broken for some time. It is also broken in the legal and constitutional sense. It is broken to the point that if Barak Obama could tomorrow be shown beyond paradventure of doubt to be unqualified in the constitutional sense to be president of the United States because of foreign birth, he nevertheless will be elected and inaugurated.

There is no reason to believe otherwise than that the constitutional, legal, and moral perversions that are affecting the election will also affect the governance of the Obama administration, judicial review of its laws, media exposure of its crimes, and subsequent elections.


20 posted on 10/23/2008 9:34:40 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Nathan, you are spot on.

They’ll look at the Constitutional requirements for the Presidency, they’ll give Obamama points for being 35 years of age, they’ll give him points for being a resident of the United States for 14 years and they’ll conclude that 67% is a passing grade even if he only clicks on two of three.


21 posted on 10/23/2008 9:41:00 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: The_Tick_01

I don’t udnerstand why Obama is having difficulty getting his? I have both my original with footprints in the fire safe and a short while ago went, paid $17 and go a stamped copy at the dept of records, took all of 5 minutes. What is the problem Obama?


22 posted on 10/23/2008 9:44:53 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: ASA Vet

You got it! Thanks so much. Now, so I’ll know how to use the Search feature better in the future, and not have to bother anyone——how on earth did you do that?


23 posted on 10/23/2008 9:46:27 AM PDT by mupcat
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To: tips up
You wrote:Can’t go there. According to CNN, “birth certificate” is code word for racism. Just like anything else we might ask Barry about.

But this has changed, the new rule is : Questioning or Doubting BHO is a form of racism.

I never thought I'd say this but Geraldine Ferraro was right - had BHO been white he would have been ignored, or named John Edwards.

24 posted on 10/23/2008 9:51:47 AM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: Publius6961
You certainly have an appropriate name...

Too literal for you? Or not paranoid enough?

25 posted on 10/23/2008 10:08:10 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bertram3

Here’s a scenario I wouldn’t mind seeing:

Zerobama ekes out a narrow victory next month, then it’s conclusively proven that he isn’t eligible to serve and he and Biden are disqualified and we either have a new election or the winner becomes McCain, the candidate that got the next-largest number of electoral votes.

Can anyone tell me if there are any laws that would make this scenario impossible?

I know there will be the usual flames about rioting if Zerobama is stripped of his victory, but that’s okay. The liberals will primarily burn and destroy their own neighborhoods, like they did during the L.A. riots following the Rodney King verdict.


26 posted on 10/23/2008 10:10:24 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((( Barack 0bama = Peter Keating )))
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To: Two Kids' Dad
Can anyone tell me if there are any laws that would make this scenario impossible?

I think if Obama is declared ineligible, but the Obama/Biden ticket won the election, then Biden becomes President. I can't see any scenario where we have a new election or where McCain becomes President after losing the election. Even if Biden were to be disqualified along with Obama, the chain of succession would not include McCain- Nancy Pelosi would become President.

27 posted on 10/23/2008 10:13:53 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: The_Tick_01
HOW MANY CANDIDATES FOR PUBLIC OFFICE IN 2008 ARE NOT US CITIZENS? DO WE KNOW? DO WE CARE?

The Secretaries of State and the Federal Election Commission don't seem to care!

28 posted on 10/23/2008 10:15:20 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: softwarecreator

My 12 yr. old son can’t play baseball without an original birth certificate!


29 posted on 10/23/2008 10:41:32 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: softwarecreator
How can this guy run for President without even the most miniscule check into his past?

He couldn't even come close to getting a low-level security clearance, based on his ADMITTED associations - but he might get the codes for the nuclear football.

This is INSANE!!! Stop the world, I want to get off.

30 posted on 10/23/2008 10:45:41 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: panthermom
My 12 yr. old son can’t play baseball without an original birth certificate!

he should aim lower .. like being the DNC presidential nominee.

31 posted on 10/23/2008 10:47:15 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: The_Tick_01

HEY, ZEROBAMA! Here’s all the information you need to get a certified COLB while you’re in Hawaii with all of your lawyers (to visit your grandma - yeah, right): http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html

Want to dispel all doubts, be able to call everyone asking for the information a bunch of racist, paranoid, right-wing nuts? Of course you do - then bring in some cameramen and have them broadcast the entire transaction on LIVE television for the entire world to see. Just $10 gives you this dream - the ability to completely disparage your opposition. Go for it!

What? There’s no record there? Nevermind.


32 posted on 10/23/2008 10:50:45 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: Two Kids' Dad
Can anyone tell me if there are any laws that would make this scenario impossible?

Even if Obama was somehow declared ineligible, McCain would still have to get 270 electoral votes which would be highly unlikely. Biden would probably be President.

33 posted on 10/23/2008 10:53:20 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (Wanted: Snappy, erudite tag line.)
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To: nathanbedford
The system is profoundly broken and it has been broken for some time. It is also broken in the legal and constitutional sense. It is broken to the point that if Barak Obama could tomorrow be shown beyond paradventure of doubt to be unqualified in the constitutional sense to be president of the United States because of foreign birth, he nevertheless will be elected and inaugurated.

There is no reason to believe otherwise than that the constitutional, legal, and moral perversions that are affecting the election will also affect the governance of the Obama administration, judicial review of its laws, media exposure of its crimes, and subsequent elections.

If Zerobama and his minions disregard the Constitution, then there's BIG trouble coming. We the people gave up some of our powers in return for a particular form of government (for our own benefit, mind you, NOT for the benefit of those whom we elect to be temporary custodians of our nation), and if those we entrust our powers were to seriously violate that contract, then all bets are off.

Hypothetically speaking, let's just say that I wouldn't want to be the instantly recognizable guy at the top of the government's food chain - because the food is still alive, and it bites back when you stab it with a fork.

34 posted on 10/23/2008 10:59:05 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: Ancesthntr; John Valentine
I confess I do not fully understand your post. You seem to think that there will be recourse somewhere but you do not clearly identify where.

If you suggest that there will be redress of grievances to be had in the federal judiciary, I think this article dealing with the difficulties of obtaining judicial redress, either before or after the election, in a case where President elect is not a "natural born citizen," is instructive.

Legal Issues in Connection With Challenge to Presidential Eligibility Under Article II, Sec. 1 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2113310/posts

If you mean that citizens will have their redress in the future at the ballot box, I can only say that I hope you are right but I see nothing on the horizon is going to damage the Democrat-media-academia axis which is putting Obama in the White House and which is set to utterly dominate our culture.

If you mean that Obama's election is so illegitimate that it justifies some sort of revolution, I point you to my previous post which I set forth here:

I fear that we are kidding ourselves. The days when my great great grandfather took his flint lock from the mantle to fight the British and establish liberty are over. Indeed, the days when my great-grandfather took his smoothbore musket from the mantle to shoot Yankees to protect his vision of his own liberty, are also gone, never to return.

Technology of domestic control will be in the hands of those who control the government. Short of resorting to terrorism, we will have no weapon of violence with any prospect of gaining us our liberties back.


35 posted on 10/23/2008 11:13:11 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Nathan, should Obama win, and I am becoming more and more certain every day that HE WILL NOT, we will have fully entered into the post-Constitutional phase of the American experiment in Republican democracy.

I do not clearly see where this transition would end. I imagine that we would become progressively more oppressed by our government, that we would become poorer, and more subject to ills such as hyper-inflation, loss of rights of all kinds, depending on the vagaries of the day, more desperate, and more regimented and aggressive as a nation.

Ultimately, I think we would be conquered by someone, and only as we worked our way out from under foreign oppression, could we hope to regain something of our past liberties and governing philosophy.

This is a process that could take a century.


36 posted on 10/23/2008 11:35:06 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Digger

It’s been speculated that the judge will issue something either today or tomorrow. Isn’t that quit coincidental? Barry is then going to be in Hawaii.”

Which judge on which lawsuit??

There is a Federal District lawsuit in Pennsylvania.
There is a lawsuit in Hawaii asking the state to turn over the records.
There is a lawsuit in Washington asking that the AG of that state not certify Nobama (if he wins) without a birth cert that is valid.
I think there is another lawsuit in Ohio on the same topic as Washington.


37 posted on 10/23/2008 11:37:28 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Non-Sequitur

How can this guy run for President without even the most miniscule check into his past?
Same way every other candidate has. He won his party’s nomination”

It was the DNC’s responsibility to vet him before even letting him run in the first place. I mean even running in the Primaries!!!
One poster has said he research and Nobama isn’t even legal to be Illinois Senator if he wasn’t born here.


38 posted on 10/23/2008 12:09:24 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: John Valentine
Our Republic has never before been confronted with a chief executive who might actually want to see the end of the United States as a nationstate. It is conceivable, and I admit this is a leap of speculation, that Barak Obama, as an indirect product of The Frankfurt School, wishes to see the advent of one-world socialism and recognizes the United States as the single greatest obstacle to obtaining that goal. If he is in fact a socialist one worlder, Obama could very well exploit his treaty making powers and utterly enervate America.

Your last post is disturbing but perhaps prescient and at any rate it gives me an excuse to republish this one:

THE OBAMA PATHOLOGY

The idea of the Authoritarian Personality originated in The Frankfurt School as a means of undermining the position of the father within the family circle and thereby undermine the family itself and ultimately the nation as a bulwark against communism. It was heavily larded with pseudo-Freudian analysis and was expanded to subvert all institutionalized authority. Every season we see an article, usually by some college professor with too much time in his hands or sometimes by psychiatrists acting either singly or in gaggles, opining that the current president, if he be Republican, is somehow psychologically deficient. No Republican president or Republican candidate in my lifetime has escaped this ritual psychoanalysis.

A recent excrescence of this genre is the book by Naomi Wolf in which she ludicrously argues that America, led by George Bush, is on the verge of descending into fascism. I have posted my objection to this sort of pseudoscience and I have tried to debunk this cheap propaganda so I am reluctant to engage hypocritically in the same game now. Well, I am going to do it anyway. I aim to indict about half of our whole society. The half, and likely more than half, that will vote for Barak Obama. My psychological conclusions do not pretend to the trappings of the "science" of the psyche and adorned with the word games of Freudian analysis, rather they are rooted in common sense.

The conclusion of anyone with common sense who has seen the films of innocent children singing their Obama songs or who has watched the quasi-military chanting and saluting of the Obama Youth in military garb must conclude that there is something very, very wrong with these people. I remember when I first saw the YouTube Children singing their Obama song I became conscious after a while that my mouth was gaping open, so appalled was I. My reaction to seeing the paramilitary gang marching into the karate hall was a mixture of embarrassment that these kids would make such fools of themselves and anger that adults would so brazenly manipulate children. Then I felt a creeping sense of unease that there was something potentially very sinister going on. Dear merciful God, this is Orwellian!

Beyond a very healthy repugnance to the spectacle of brainwashed children put on display, beyond the inescapable Maoist symbolism of it all, a commonsense person asks, what kind of man would permit this to go on in his name? What kind of parent would not seek to protect his child from such a man? What kind of pathology would lead parents who presumably love their children to consign those children to the demons of mind control? How could Americans fall for such a transparent cult of personality?

Unfortunately, we need not be uncertain about what kind of man would permit this grotesquerie to be advanced in his name. History provides us with plenty of examples: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Kim Jong-Il come to mind and now we add Barak Obama to the list. Why has he not spoken out and repudiated this? Would not a decent man do so if only for the children?

If Obama will not speak out now as a candidate when a little modesty, even false modesty, would advance his chances, what will he do when he gains office with no resistance anywhere on the horizon; no opposition in either the House or the Senate, no voice in traditional media to be raised against him, no institutional resistance on a national level of any kind organized to discourage him? Because he condones this obscenity one must ask, Is Obama really a narcissist as has been claimed? If so, how far will he go when he has the levers of power in his hands when there is no effective resistance to his ego?

How dangerous is Barak Obama?

Is he too dangerous to be put in a place where he could literally get us all killed? Or Is he the indispensable man in some sense? I do not think so. There is nothing in his career that suggests that he is the man for this season. In a time of war he has no military experience. In a time of looming financial disaster, he has no economic credentials. If he is potentially dangerous and if he is not indispensable, why would so many people want to put him in a position where he could do us harm, even get us all killed?

My commonsense explanation is that there must be a pathology, a mass psychosis, that brings people to the point where not only are they eager to make him the most powerful man in the world but they are invoking his name and calling upon him to be their savior. This they do rather than falling on their knees out of fear of The Real God.

This is the Obama pathology.

To a middle-class conservative who instinctively rejects conspiracy theories and normally wants to think the best of people because that's what he learned in Sunday school, this deification of an empty suit is as bewildering as it is frightening. What in the world are these people thinking? Do they not weigh the risks of consigning their fate to an unqualified man, worse, a person tainted his whole life with stunningly dangerous confederates including felons and Communists and terrorists? What is the upside? What is it about this man whose career is utterly uninterrupted by any accomplishment which would motivate these people to risk their children and my children to whatever he might do to them? How do they know? How can they be sure? Don't they have any doubts?

My problem is that I am seeking after that which I cannot find. I want to find an explanation in logic for a phenomenon of emotion. It is easy for middle-class conservatives to overlook the power of emotion even though history provides plenty of examples even within our own culture in America. Can logic explain why so many drank Jim Jone's Kool aid? Why Charles Manson commanded such blood loyalty? How many cheered OJ Simpson's acquittal? Why did princes Diana's passing traumatize a nation? These are not questions which are answered with everyday commonsense. One almost has to go to the Bible to see the answer in Old Testament allegory which lets us know that evil is and there will always be worshipers of the golden calf.

I fear that in November we conservatives might find ourselves involuntarily embarked upon a journey that is foreign to our epistemology. We may be going into dark places and we might well be pushed into a netherworld where our common sense values are of no use because it is a place where down is up and black is white, a place where gravity does not pull but pushes, a place where we will need a pocket translator in order to converse in English with our government, our children's teachers, and our keepers even though they superficially use the same words we do. We sense we are about to be overwhelmed by forces guided by the ghost of Saul Alinsky.

I fear the downside of the Obama Pathology after his election may extend to dimensions we cannot begin to fasten to our everyday understanding or to our common sense. We have no way of knowing what will come because we don't know anything really about Barak Obama. We do not know if he is purely evil, we do not know if he is a committed communist, we do not know if he is a racist, we do not know if he wishes to see the submergence of the United States into a greater world order, we do not know if he is a megalomaniac, we do not even know, God help us, if he hates America. We do not know, in short, if we are backs - to- the- wall confronted with the Liberals' quadrennial nightmare: A real Authoritarian Personality.

We do know that Barak Obama has already encouraged a cult of personality whose implications are truly frightening and fundamentally un-American.


39 posted on 10/23/2008 12:10:50 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: CharacterCounts

Even if Obama was somehow declared ineligible, McCain would still have to get 270 electoral votes which would be highly unlikely. Biden would probably be President.”

If Nobama is declared not eligible- then the number of electoral votes he gets would be thrown out and the next highest number would be declared winner??

Biden wasn’t chosen in the Primaries- he was chosen by Nobama and the Dem elites.


40 posted on 10/23/2008 12:14:24 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
It was the DNC’s responsibility to vet him before even letting him run in the first place. I mean even running in the Primaries!!

And how do you know they didn't?

One poster has said he research and Nobama isn’t even legal to be Illinois Senator if he wasn’t born here.

I would suggest that that poster go and read the Constitution.

41 posted on 10/23/2008 12:42:01 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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