Skip to comments.GOP slashes ad spending in Colorado (Pulling Out of Colorado?)
Posted on 10/23/2008 9:09:35 AM PDT by My Favorite HeadacheEdited on 10/23/2008 9:29:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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The problem is that as they pull out of states, the reduce the number of backup options so there is no margin for error in even one state. I'm fairly confident things are trending the right way in Missouri, Ohio and Florida. I think both Virginia and Pennsylvania are going to be tough fights.
Okay, you wallow in the mud while I’m enjoying a faux cigarette!! :-D
Colorado can be won if the Evangelicals turn out in force. Unfortunately, Evangelicals are fickle voters. They came out in force in 2004, but sat on their hands in 2000 and 2006.
And many polls show Obama up by double digits nationally. Do you believe those, too?
Don't think so. Supposedly the RNC has pulled their money from her campaign, too.
You know, this is about the 5th or 6th state in the last few days that the GOP is supposed to have pulled money out of. That’s too many too close to the election to be coincidence. Now either McCain and the Republicans are broke, which means their really in trouble. Or these stories are bullsh*t made to make the GOP look to be in dire straights. I’m tending towards the later explanation.
Was it the RNC or the NRCC that pulled funding. I was told it was the NRCC.
The NRCC did. They handle House races. The RNC does statewide GOTV/resource efforts.
Didn’t the OBama campaign pull almost $200 million in September alone?
Isn’t that greater than the whole Republican war chest?
You are AWESOME! Obama is in trouble in blue states from 2004! Colorado is getting on the ground people hitting the state starting today from surrounding states. The GOTV is going to be huge in CO where the GOP will far outnumber the Obama ground game.
NRA ads are supposed to be on the air in some of these states as well.
Thank you. Where does the NRCC get their funding from? I’m just trying to decide if it’s okay to give more money to the RNC. I don’t want to give it to them if they give funding to the NRCC, because of what they have done. I’d rather give it directly to the candidates that they are screwing.
You'd think that after seeing a MSM story like this four or five times folks would start to catch on.
The Obamessiah is scaling back across the board on all battleground states except NH. I'd like for anyone to tell me how that's a good sign for him. This could well end up a landslide, but not in the way the media folks are talking about.
Good info, IR, thanks for the ping.
I'd recommend you donate to folks individually. Here are a few of my favorites:
See? A lesser person (like one of those bitter rednecks) might have withheld that ping as punishment for you sleeping in today! ;-)
Kind of the same thing. The NRCC is the party arm that runs ads for congressional candidates. I believe the RNC runs it for presidential candidates.
Gonna get around earlier tomorrow, things are just calming down for me. :)
As I understand it the RNC is a more generic, national entity supporting all Republican interests, and often specifically focuses on get-out-the-vote efforts. Then you have the NRCC (House), NRSC (Senate), and individual campaigns.
You'll note that the Republicans cut their spending by 100%.
> You said at least 10:1, did you not? So you’re implying
> that McCain only has $20 million?
No, the Obama campaign collected almost $200 million in September ALONE! Did McCain get $20 million in Sept? I sincerely doubt it!
Altogether, the Donkeys have raked in well over a billion for this campaign. What have the Pubbies raked in?
I’ll admit it may be more than $100 million, but not a LOT more.
Hi impeachedrapist. How can you be sure this is the casethat Obama is not pulling out because he feels strong in these states? It looks like McCain is pulling out of CO and FL too. Does that mean he is down in these places? Without CO and FL McCain can't win, right?
I'm not trying to be a contrarian at all, I just don't see what you see and I am trying to learn. I would LOVE it if McCain swept the board like you're saying!
Now, that I remember, McCain is limited to the Federal Election funds of $84 million.
The Obama campaign has pulled in over a billion, with almost one fifth of that coming in September alone.
That looks like more than a factor of ten to me.
Negative, Ghostrider. MI was given to the RNC, which is still advertising in MI, per that same resource. (Plus the 527s are active there as well.) But perhaps you missed the poster's point.
You're not correct. This last month of the election the McCain campaign and the RNC had allotted $160 million for advertising and other efforts. They collected much more before then, especially after the Palin selection.
I'm not saying McCain will sweep all those states. What I'm saying is why would a well-financed Obamessiah supposedly leading everywhere, who supposedly has McCain/Palin on the ropes, be scaling back across the board in supposedly vulnerable red states while increasing spending in blue states?? The only legitimate explanation is that he's getting his butt kicked. When you compare that data to how the campaigns are behaving, you have further evidence. McCain/Palin are going to red states, yes. But they're also going to NH, PA, ME, PA, IA (purple state), NM (purple state), did I mention PA? :-)
McCain is NOT pulling out of CO. His VP mate did three events there this week. He's doing two there tomorrow. A hundred or more volunteers/staff are descending on CO from other states (I think more to deliver the Senate seat, which is an even bigger battle than the POTUS race).
McCain is NOT pulling out of Florida. Where did that even come from? McCain's doing a rally in FL today.
If McCain takes PA, and holds every other Bush state, McCain can give up ALL of the following:
IA,CO,NM,NV AND VA!
If he doesnt’ take PA, and holds every other Bush state
He can give up any 2 of the following:
Or any 2 of the following:
There is very little path for Fauxbama to the White House, assuming the race is as close as the polls are claiming. Frankly I don’t think they are nearly as close as being portrayed.
I also believe without question PA is going McCain.
“Liberals are leaving the Northeast and the Rustbelt and heading to nice places like Colorado and North Carolina.”
Don’t leave out VA ... same damned thing happening here. It’ not due to Virginians that there’s a contest in the Old Dominion, but immigrants from the Northeast who’ve crowded into Northern VA and changed the demographic completely. They came because they liked our low taxes. Argh.
You mean this resource, Bucky? The one included in his link? According to that McCain spent zero in Michigan in the week of 10/6 (the figure in parenthesis) and the same amount in the week of 10/13. RNC funding dropped from $104K in the week of 10/6 to zero in the week of 10/13. That looks like a 100% drop by any definition of the term.
But perhaps you missed the poster's point.
I just assumed they were being sarcastic. Outspending your opponent $415,000 to zero isn't pulling out.
Thanks! Excellent answer. I understand now (I know, I’m sloooow) and that does seem like a very positive scenario. Thank God!!
I meant McCain was pulling ad sales in CO and FL according to the graph at that link.
Thanks again! I appreciate your explanation!
Hey Jay, go check out my posts 44 and 48. Very interesting stuff pointing toward major Obama/Biden problems.
I live in Parker CO and I have seen more OB signs than there were Kerry signs 4 years ago and Parker is or was always more conservative than Denver.
There are still a lot of conservatives here and we are still fighting the good fight
McCain has to stops scheduled in CO tomorrow.This just more MSM hype.
I admit, I read it as no decrease and 104 this week, but it was 104 the week before and no spending this week (as identified by the source). you are indeed correct.
And the rest of the data is still overwhelmingly positive for the GOP and negative for the Dems (and you).
I think tv advertising is over-rated.
Palin was just in the state and McCain has 2 rallies there tomorrow. Rallies create free air time.
They obviously have not given up the state.
I got to do a sit-down get-together with a GOP pollster a few years back at a dinner. We discused all sorts of things about polls and he told me that on Presidential Contests it matters most what the Poll "Trends" are.
He also told me to watch which States the candidates spend there time in when it gets close to election day. He said if you See A Republican Candidate spending lots of time in California or some other Liberal state get ready to call him Mr. President. Same goes for a Democrat spending lots of time in Texas or some other traditionally Conservative/Republican state.
If I remember correctly, didn’t Kerry win Colorado but Bush won Colorado over Gore?
Just curious, please correct me if I am wrong
Correction to=two. Anyone who believes we are pulling out of CO has their head square up their tails. This is just BS by the Media. Their whole plan this year is to discourage us from voting by making us think it is all over. It’s not.Bozo is actually behind in internal polls. It is apparent in the hype and renewed attacks on Palin and on McCain’s age.
Obama alone is outspending McCain and the RNC three to one and you view that as overwhelmingly positive? I admire your optimism but I have to question your sanity.
No. In CO Bush beat Gore by 9 points, and he beat Kerry by 5 points.
Just because you view everything in a negative fashion doesn't mean it's negative.
Please explain to me, oh "realistic" one, exactly why Obama is cutting spending in all supposedly vulnerable red states WHILE simultaneously increasing spending in supposedly safe blue states? Don't we have poll after poll telling us how big Obama's lead is? Doesn't he have all the money?
Here’s a link from an NRA article from Oct. 8th. However, I just received an email where they were requesting more funds for more ads in battleground states.
There was another thread talking about how good of a job the NRA does at targeting their audience, demograhics, etc. More bang for your buck with the NRA.
I have thought all along that this election will swing on the hard hat wearing, union card carrying, pickup truck driving, gun toting and Bible carrying rural democrat. I think the NRA appeals to their values directly.
Good resource, thanks. It shows current or planned advertising in CO, PA, NM, OH, FL, VA, NC, MN and MI.
I do seem to recall that Kerry claimed some kind of connection to Colorado, like he used to live there or something.
Thank you - The libs at work were saying Kerry took Colorado and for the life of me I just could not rememger!!!
I don’t understand Michigan. They have been run by corrupt demorats who have bled the city dry and have been charged for various crimes....
Yet.... They still vote democrat?
With good reason, at least in the sanity part. IMHO, of course.
Just because you view everything in a negative fashion doesn't mean it's negative.
Just because you view everythign in a positive fashion doesn't mean it's positive. Good or bad, there is such a thing as being realistic.
Please explain to me, oh "realistic" one, exactly why Obama is cutting spending in all supposedly vulnerable red states WHILE simultaneously increasing spending in supposedly safe blue states?
Well let's see, Obama dropped Florida spending 4%, and is still outspending McCain and the RNC by 3:1. He dropped spending in Missouri by 3% and is still outspending McCain and the RNC almost 2:1. Colorado he's dropped spending almost 10%, as did McCain, and is still outspending him 3:2. Virginia he's outspending McCain 4:1. In the two blue states, Iowa and New Hampshire, Obama's increase totals about $150,000 out of a $31 million ad buy, less than half a percent. That's less than McCain's increas in North Carolina alone, supposedly a solid Red state in your eyes. And as to why Obama's cutting his buys at all? Look at the cable total, up 300%. Obama is spending 90 times what the GOP is spending on Cable, and targeting audiences with it. So what is positive in all that?
I stand corrected, then, with respect to the totals available to the parties.
However, the McCain campaign is limited to $84 million.
The Obama campaign has raised a billion of more.
The Donkeys have WAY MORE money than the Republicans.
You forgot HUNTER! I have run into a lot of Hunters wguke making phone calls and wouldn’t vote for Obama if he was the only person running.
I am predicting white flight to McCain!