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GOP slashes ad spending in Colorado (Pulling Out of Colorado?)
KSBY-TV ^ | 10-23-2008

Posted on 10/23/2008 9:09:35 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: Hemorrhage
Like a poker game, there are different ways to complete a winning hand. Any winning hand for McCain pretty much has to include Ohio, Missouri, Florida and Virginia. With those battleground states plus the 'red' states, McCain could put together a winning combination with Colorado and either Nevada or New Mexico. With Pennsylvania, which wasn't part of either Bush's 2000 or 2004 wins, McCain could afford to lose all of the western battleground states.

The problem is that as they pull out of states, the reduce the number of backup options so there is no margin for error in even one state. I'm fairly confident things are trending the right way in Missouri, Ohio and Florida. I think both Virginia and Pennsylvania are going to be tough fights.

51 posted on 10/23/2008 10:35:57 AM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: rwfromkansas

Okay, you wallow in the mud while I’m enjoying a faux cigarette!! :-D


52 posted on 10/23/2008 10:36:16 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: rwfromkansas

Colorado can be won if the Evangelicals turn out in force. Unfortunately, Evangelicals are fickle voters. They came out in force in 2004, but sat on their hands in 2000 and 2006.


53 posted on 10/23/2008 10:39:37 AM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: Crystal Cove

And many polls show Obama up by double digits nationally. Do you believe those, too?


54 posted on 10/23/2008 10:42:07 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Canedawg
Bachmann?

Don't think so. Supposedly the RNC has pulled their money from her campaign, too.

55 posted on 10/23/2008 10:42:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: All

You know, this is about the 5th or 6th state in the last few days that the GOP is supposed to have pulled money out of. That’s too many too close to the election to be coincidence. Now either McCain and the Republicans are broke, which means their really in trouble. Or these stories are bullsh*t made to make the GOP look to be in dire straights. I’m tending towards the later explanation.


56 posted on 10/23/2008 10:44:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Was it the RNC or the NRCC that pulled funding. I was told it was the NRCC.


57 posted on 10/23/2008 10:46:59 AM PDT by beandog
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To: beandog

The NRCC did. They handle House races. The RNC does statewide GOTV/resource efforts.


58 posted on 10/23/2008 10:49:18 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

Didn’t the OBama campaign pull almost $200 million in September alone?

Isn’t that greater than the whole Republican war chest?


59 posted on 10/23/2008 10:50:52 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: impeachedrapist

You are AWESOME! Obama is in trouble in blue states from 2004! Colorado is getting on the ground people hitting the state starting today from surrounding states. The GOTV is going to be huge in CO where the GOP will far outnumber the Obama ground game.

NRA ads are supposed to be on the air in some of these states as well.


60 posted on 10/23/2008 10:52:25 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Westbrook
You said at least 10:1, did you not? So you're implying that McCain only has $20 million?
61 posted on 10/23/2008 10:55:51 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

Thank you. Where does the NRCC get their funding from? I’m just trying to decide if it’s okay to give more money to the RNC. I don’t want to give it to them if they give funding to the NRCC, because of what they have done. I’d rather give it directly to the candidates that they are screwing.


62 posted on 10/23/2008 10:56:19 AM PDT by beandog
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To: johncocktoasten
The GOP cut the ad spending. Not the McCain campaign. And they reduced it, they didn’t end it.

You'd think that after seeing a MSM story like this four or five times folks would start to catch on.

63 posted on 10/23/2008 10:56:56 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: PhiKapMom
Did you see this post?

Post 48

The Obamessiah is scaling back across the board on all battleground states except NH. I'd like for anyone to tell me how that's a good sign for him. This could well end up a landslide, but not in the way the media folks are talking about.

64 posted on 10/23/2008 10:58:33 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

Good info, IR, thanks for the ping.


65 posted on 10/23/2008 11:02:27 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: beandog
The NRCC and RNC are separate political entities. They might transfer funds between themselves; I really don't know. (It might be illegal, not really sure.)

I'd recommend you donate to folks individually. Here are a few of my favorites:

Michele Bachmann (R-MN)
Bill Russell (Murtha's opponent)
Allen West

66 posted on 10/23/2008 11:02:34 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: jazusamo
Good info, IR, thanks for the ping.

See? A lesser person (like one of those bitter rednecks) might have withheld that ping as punishment for you sleeping in today! ;-)

67 posted on 10/23/2008 11:04:05 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: beandog
Was it the RNC or the NRCC that pulled funding. I was told it was the NRCC.

Kind of the same thing. The NRCC is the party arm that runs ads for congressional candidates. I believe the RNC runs it for presidential candidates.

68 posted on 10/23/2008 11:05:50 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: impeachedrapist

LOL!

Gonna get around earlier tomorrow, things are just calming down for me. :)


69 posted on 10/23/2008 11:07:16 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Non-Sequitur

As I understand it the RNC is a more generic, national entity supporting all Republican interests, and often specifically focuses on get-out-the-vote efforts. Then you have the NRCC (House), NRSC (Senate), and individual campaigns.


70 posted on 10/23/2008 11:08:08 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: FreeReign
Obama cut TV add spending by 70% the week of October 19th.

You'll note that the Republicans cut their spending by 100%.

71 posted on 10/23/2008 11:09:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: impeachedrapist

> You said at least 10:1, did you not? So you’re implying
> that McCain only has $20 million?

No, the Obama campaign collected almost $200 million in September ALONE! Did McCain get $20 million in Sept? I sincerely doubt it!

Altogether, the Donkeys have raked in well over a billion for this campaign. What have the Pubbies raked in?

I’ll admit it may be more than $100 million, but not a LOT more.


72 posted on 10/23/2008 11:19:35 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: impeachedrapist
The Obamessiah is scaling back across the board on all battleground states except NH. I'd like for anyone to tell me how that's a good sign for him.

Hi impeachedrapist. How can you be sure this is the case—that Obama is not pulling out because he feels strong in these states? It looks like McCain is pulling out of CO and FL too. Does that mean he is down in these places? Without CO and FL McCain can't win, right?

I'm not trying to be a contrarian at all, I just don't see what you see and I am trying to learn. I would LOVE it if McCain swept the board like you're saying!

73 posted on 10/23/2008 11:20:14 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: impeachedrapist

Now, that I remember, McCain is limited to the Federal Election funds of $84 million.

The Obama campaign has pulled in over a billion, with almost one fifth of that coming in September alone.

That looks like more than a factor of ten to me.


74 posted on 10/23/2008 11:22:24 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
You'll note that the Republicans cut their spending by 100%.

Negative, Ghostrider. MI was given to the RNC, which is still advertising in MI, per that same resource. (Plus the 527s are active there as well.) But perhaps you missed the poster's point.

75 posted on 10/23/2008 11:25:30 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Westbrook
That looks like more than a factor of ten to me.

You're not correct. This last month of the election the McCain campaign and the RNC had allotted $160 million for advertising and other efforts. They collected much more before then, especially after the Palin selection.

76 posted on 10/23/2008 11:26:56 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: theophilusscribe
Hi impeachedrapist. How can you be sure this is the case—that Obama is not pulling out because he feels strong in these states? It looks like McCain is pulling out of CO and FL too. Does that mean he is down in these places? Without CO and FL McCain can't win, right? I'm not trying to be a contrarian at all, I just don't see what you see and I am trying to learn. I would LOVE it if McCain swept the board like you're saying!

I'm not saying McCain will sweep all those states. What I'm saying is why would a well-financed Obamessiah supposedly leading everywhere, who supposedly has McCain/Palin on the ropes, be scaling back across the board in supposedly vulnerable red states while increasing spending in blue states?? The only legitimate explanation is that he's getting his butt kicked. When you compare that data to how the campaigns are behaving, you have further evidence. McCain/Palin are going to red states, yes. But they're also going to NH, PA, ME, PA, IA (purple state), NM (purple state), did I mention PA? :-)

McCain is NOT pulling out of CO. His VP mate did three events there this week. He's doing two there tomorrow. A hundred or more volunteers/staff are descending on CO from other states (I think more to deliver the Senate seat, which is an even bigger battle than the POTUS race).

McCain is NOT pulling out of Florida. Where did that even come from? McCain's doing a rally in FL today.

77 posted on 10/23/2008 11:33:24 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Mashood

If McCain takes PA, and holds every other Bush state, McCain can give up ALL of the following:

IA,CO,NM,NV AND VA!

If he doesnt’ take PA, and holds every other Bush state

He can give up any 2 of the following:

CO,IA,NM,NV

Or any 2 of the following:

VA,NM,NV

There is very little path for Fauxbama to the White House, assuming the race is as close as the polls are claiming. Frankly I don’t think they are nearly as close as being portrayed.

I also believe without question PA is going McCain.


78 posted on 10/23/2008 11:33:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: crymeariver

“Liberals are leaving the Northeast and the Rustbelt and heading to nice places like Colorado and North Carolina.”

Don’t leave out VA ... same damned thing happening here. It’ not due to Virginians that there’s a contest in the Old Dominion, but immigrants from the Northeast who’ve crowded into Northern VA and changed the demographic completely. They came because they liked our low taxes. Argh.


79 posted on 10/23/2008 11:39:23 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: impeachedrapist
Negative, Ghostrider. MI was given to the RNC, which is still advertising in MI, per that same resource.

You mean this resource, Bucky? The one included in his link? According to that McCain spent zero in Michigan in the week of 10/6 (the figure in parenthesis) and the same amount in the week of 10/13. RNC funding dropped from $104K in the week of 10/6 to zero in the week of 10/13. That looks like a 100% drop by any definition of the term.

But perhaps you missed the poster's point.

I just assumed they were being sarcastic. Outspending your opponent $415,000 to zero isn't pulling out.

80 posted on 10/23/2008 11:40:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: impeachedrapist

Thanks! Excellent answer. I understand now (I know, I’m sloooow) and that does seem like a very positive scenario. Thank God!!

I meant McCain was pulling ad sales in CO and FL according to the graph at that link.

Thanks again! I appreciate your explanation!


81 posted on 10/23/2008 11:40:02 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: HamiltonJay

Hey Jay, go check out my posts 44 and 48. Very interesting stuff pointing toward major Obama/Biden problems.


82 posted on 10/23/2008 11:40:09 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Artemis Webb

I live in Parker CO and I have seen more OB signs than there were Kerry signs 4 years ago and Parker is or was always more conservative than Denver.

There are still a lot of conservatives here and we are still fighting the good fight


83 posted on 10/23/2008 11:42:41 AM PDT by Glacier Honey
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To: My Favorite Headache

McCain has to stops scheduled in CO tomorrow.This just more MSM hype.


84 posted on 10/23/2008 11:44:18 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Non-Sequitur
Well, I'll be darned! You actually got something right! :-D My apologies.

I admit, I read it as no decrease and 104 this week, but it was 104 the week before and no spending this week (as identified by the source). you are indeed correct.

And the rest of the data is still overwhelmingly positive for the GOP and negative for the Dems (and you).

85 posted on 10/23/2008 11:44:21 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I think tv advertising is over-rated.

Palin was just in the state and McCain has 2 rallies there tomorrow. Rallies create free air time.

They obviously have not given up the state.


86 posted on 10/23/2008 11:46:24 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Get off your ass and do something...Print signs and post them around town)
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To: impeachedrapist
"Everyone, may I have your attention please? [clearing throat] Thank you. According to that link there are exactly three states where both campaigns are increasing ad expenditures. Care to guess what they are? New Hampshire Maine Iowa Talk amongst yourselves. I'll be busy celebrating a McCain/Palin victory. This news is so good I need a cigarette, and I don't even smoke!

I got to do a sit-down get-together with a GOP pollster a few years back at a dinner. We discused all sorts of things about polls and he told me that on Presidential Contests it matters most what the Poll "Trends" are.

He also told me to watch which States the candidates spend there time in when it gets close to election day. He said if you See A Republican Candidate spending lots of time in California or some other Liberal state get ready to call him Mr. President. Same goes for a Democrat spending lots of time in Texas or some other traditionally Conservative/Republican state.

87 posted on 10/23/2008 11:46:36 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Chet 99

If I remember correctly, didn’t Kerry win Colorado but Bush won Colorado over Gore?

Just curious, please correct me if I am wrong


88 posted on 10/23/2008 11:48:10 AM PDT by Glacier Honey
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To: calex59

Correction to=two. Anyone who believes we are pulling out of CO has their head square up their tails. This is just BS by the Media. Their whole plan this year is to discourage us from voting by making us think it is all over. It’s not.Bozo is actually behind in internal polls. It is apparent in the hype and renewed attacks on Palin and on McCain’s age.


89 posted on 10/23/2008 11:49:24 AM PDT by calex59
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To: impeachedrapist
And the rest of the data is still overwhelmingly positive for the GOP and negative for the Dems (and you).

Obama alone is outspending McCain and the RNC three to one and you view that as overwhelmingly positive? I admire your optimism but I have to question your sanity.

90 posted on 10/23/2008 11:49:50 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Glacier Honey

No. In CO Bush beat Gore by 9 points, and he beat Kerry by 5 points.


91 posted on 10/23/2008 11:50:29 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Non-Sequitur
You've been questioning my sanity and optimism every step of the way. And I've been questioning your supposed desire to see McCain/Palin win.

Just because you view everything in a negative fashion doesn't mean it's negative.

Please explain to me, oh "realistic" one, exactly why Obama is cutting spending in all supposedly vulnerable red states WHILE simultaneously increasing spending in supposedly safe blue states? Don't we have poll after poll telling us how big Obama's lead is? Doesn't he have all the money?

92 posted on 10/23/2008 11:53:36 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: PhiKapMom

http://www.nrapvf.org/news/Read.aspx?ID=11636

Here’s a link from an NRA article from Oct. 8th. However, I just received an email where they were requesting more funds for more ads in battleground states.

There was another thread talking about how good of a job the NRA does at targeting their audience, demograhics, etc. More bang for your buck with the NRA.

I have thought all along that this election will swing on the hard hat wearing, union card carrying, pickup truck driving, gun toting and Bible carrying rural democrat. I think the NRA appeals to their values directly.


93 posted on 10/23/2008 11:57:50 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: 21twelve

Good resource, thanks. It shows current or planned advertising in CO, PA, NM, OH, FL, VA, NC, MN and MI.


94 posted on 10/23/2008 12:02:01 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

I do seem to recall that Kerry claimed some kind of connection to Colorado, like he used to live there or something.


95 posted on 10/23/2008 12:13:24 PM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: impeachedrapist

Thank you - The libs at work were saying Kerry took Colorado and for the life of me I just could not rememger!!!


96 posted on 10/23/2008 12:16:29 PM PDT by Glacier Honey
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To: impeachedrapist

I don’t understand Michigan. They have been run by corrupt demorats who have bled the city dry and have been charged for various crimes....

Yet.... They still vote democrat?


97 posted on 10/23/2008 12:20:03 PM PDT by Glacier Honey
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To: impeachedrapist
You've been questioning my sanity and optimism every step of the way.

With good reason, at least in the sanity part. IMHO, of course.

Just because you view everything in a negative fashion doesn't mean it's negative.

Just because you view everythign in a positive fashion doesn't mean it's positive. Good or bad, there is such a thing as being realistic.

Please explain to me, oh "realistic" one, exactly why Obama is cutting spending in all supposedly vulnerable red states WHILE simultaneously increasing spending in supposedly safe blue states?

Well let's see, Obama dropped Florida spending 4%, and is still outspending McCain and the RNC by 3:1. He dropped spending in Missouri by 3% and is still outspending McCain and the RNC almost 2:1. Colorado he's dropped spending almost 10%, as did McCain, and is still outspending him 3:2. Virginia he's outspending McCain 4:1. In the two blue states, Iowa and New Hampshire, Obama's increase totals about $150,000 out of a $31 million ad buy, less than half a percent. That's less than McCain's increas in North Carolina alone, supposedly a solid Red state in your eyes. And as to why Obama's cutting his buys at all? Look at the cable total, up 300%. Obama is spending 90 times what the GOP is spending on Cable, and targeting audiences with it. So what is positive in all that?

98 posted on 10/23/2008 12:23:23 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: impeachedrapist

I stand corrected, then, with respect to the totals available to the parties.

However, the McCain campaign is limited to $84 million.

The Obama campaign has raised a billion of more.

The Donkeys have WAY MORE money than the Republicans.

Way more.


99 posted on 10/23/2008 12:25:14 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: 21twelve

You forgot HUNTER! I have run into a lot of Hunters wguke making phone calls and wouldn’t vote for Obama if he was the only person running.

I am predicting white flight to McCain!


100 posted on 10/23/2008 12:29:28 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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