Posted on 10/23/2008 1:13:24 PM PDT by pissant
''I don't know if you saw this, but vice presidential candidate Governor Sarah Palin says that she's in favor of a Federal ban on gay marriage. Basically, she wants to change the Constitution. So, if you're wondering -- I'm sure you are -- how I feel about this, I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't agree.... And maybe it's because I'm gay that I think we should all be equal, but, um, I feel that we're all equal. And I don't know what people are scared of. You know, maybe they think that their children will be influenced. And I gotta say, I was raised by two heterosexuals, I was surrounded by heterosexuals -- just everywhere I looked: heterosexuals. And they did not influen -- I mean, I dabbled in high school, who didn't? ... People are gonna be who they're gonna be, and we need to learn to love them for who they are and let them love who they want to love.''
Talk show host Ellen Degeneres on the set of her TV program speaking about Sarah Palin's public admission on the 700 Club that she wishes to have a Federal ban on gay marriage but then immediately expressed that she wasn't going to sit in judgment of anyone. Degeneres, of course, famously married her long-time girlfriend, Portia de Rossi, earlier this year when California's Supreme Court concluded that same-sex marriages be made legal on the grounds that it is a civil rights issue. (NY Daily News)
Any freepers, who keep their American Express Cards after this should get slapped around by this degenerate deviate, Degeneres.
Lesbo should have married her dog.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
She wants to have her rug and eat it too.
I saw the movie `Mr. Wrong’ offered the other night on one of the commercial-
free channels. I was tempted to watch it just to see Ellen trying to play it straight.
When was it that everyone started thinking everything was about equality? State-sanctioned marriage is most certainly not about equality. It’s a class perogative. In granting special status to married people, the state is saying they are “more equal” than single people. If Ellen really cared about absolute equality, she’d be on the ramparts fighting against granting special status to straight and gay couples.
I forget who said this, but it’s kinda funny.
“Gay people should have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us.”
Pederasty. Beastiality. Auto-asphixation. Are we supposed to accept these too, because someone attributes the characteristics of "love" to them as well?
As I have often posted, I have a relative who is a recovering alcoholic. Every day, he has to make the decision: Does he do what "feels right" to his body, and damn the consequences to those around him whom he loves, or does he do what God says is right, excercise self-restraint, and go on with his life. Some evidence suggests that there may be a genetic componant to the craving of alcohol. Do we then turn to all the alcoholics in America and say, "Hey, God made you perfect to be who you are! You can't help it, embrace it! Here, let me buy you a Scotch"?
You can't evade a sin and its consquences by renaming it a "lifechoice".
Marriage is a contract.
Government has some role in the enforcement of contracts.
I don’t see a problem with this, except that the government has over-stepped it’s bounds, as usual.
Get the government out of the marriage business. They don’t belong there.
A bull can marry a sheep for all I care.
But, contracts should be enforced.
Web article attributed to Signal to Noise (S2N)
Ellen deGenerate is a weinie, Caribou Barbie would kick her butt.
I try not to be influenced by celebrity endorsements, one way or the other. I seek to find products that solve my needs, and whatever the company I purchase from chooses to waste its money on, it’s their business.
Sure, don’t take this personally, it is only business!
Wow, at 8 maggot huh? I better get out of this thread and fast
Ellen who?
And society has a real interest in regulating, through government, maternity and paternity. Given that all human reproduction occurs through heterosexual activity of one kind or another, homosexuality has abolutely no relevance when it comes to the civil institution of marriage.
Hey ellen, didn’t you listen to joe during the debate??? He said tht he and bambi were against gay marriage also.
Equal rights is not about accepting gay marriage. What a toad.
Ellen, as a ‘gay’ person, you need to know that you are one of a distinct genetic minority in your generation. As Aldous Huxley observed long ago, you are abnormal in your generation, but your generation would be abnormal without you. Stop trying to pretend that you are normal, and stop trying to convince the rest of us that you are just like us — you are not. As to your rights as a citizen of the USA, this country has done more for those rights than any other country in the history of the world. It might be time for you and yours to say, thank you, America.
Nothing whatever to do with “equality” here, Ellen. You are trying to make the aberrant behavior of homosexuals “equal” to the heterosexual behavior which has been considered normal since man has existed. This only makes sense to you and your ilk.
Ellen ick
Ellen has the right to her view. I don’t think she should use her show as a platform. Last time she pulled that she lost.
Marriage is a contract which spells out a collection of rights and responsibilities between the parties. Further homosexuals can still have children legal through scientific means or, in some jurisdictions, adoption.
Your arguments hold no merit when it comes to civil marriage and why a secular government shouldn't care if two men, two women or a man and a woman want to marry.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
“””Marriage is much more than a contract”””
It can be and should be, but it does not
need the government to get involved
“””The homosexuals want society’s endorsement... “”””
That is exactly why the government should stay out of the marriage business,
The government does not represent society. Why should they ?
They are just some dudes that work for us.
“””And society has a real interest in regulating,
through government, maternity and paternity”””
LOL, Yep. Put them in charge of everything,
even life itself. Government knows best /sarc
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
“””Children need a father and a father”””
Humans need Freedom from your governments.
Freedom is how everything happens best.
LOL, no. Those children are still conceived through sexual reproduction. Go back to biology class.
If you think the raising of children, which has traditionally been done through sanctioning the marriage of one man and one woman, is not an appropriate matter for civil society to manage, you're clueless. the fact that no-fault divorce and all the other subsequent assaults on the traditional family structure are already full blown in their effects is a point that supports my position, not yours. But I get your point, our society is so far in the gutter, why not let homos marry?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
I think the only thing they couldn't justify is pedophilia, using the libertarian notion that childen cannot consent. I suppose they can say, well, no we won't push for bestiality because animals cannot give consent, but would animals have consciousness of being violated? I guess they could say it's animal cruelty, but what if the animal is not harmed? I suppose they could say, well, but the animal wouldn't enjoy it, but how would they know that?
But you're right, how can they so blithely mock conservatives' concerns about ultimately normalizing incest and polygamy.
And why do they mock religious polygamy? Would they have a problem with polygamy if it were a bunch of dudes? Or how about a whole gang of gays and bi's of both sexes? How do they logically say that will never be the next step? When they cast aside the traditional definition of marriage, where do they get the basis for the one man-one man/one woman-one woman gay marriage paradigm?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
It also has a pretty iron-clad foundation in the laws of nature, as well.
All homos have is "two people love each other."
What in the world does that matter?
Eww... sit down beside me and tell me more...
After which, Hollywood started questioning Anne Heche’s sanity.
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