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Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth'...real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months'
WND ^ | October 23, 2008

Posted on 10/23/2008 10:30:22 PM PDT by Red Steel

The Pennsylvania Democrat who has sued Sen. Barack Obama demanding he prove his American citizenship – and therefore qualification to run for president – has confirmed he has a recording of a telephone call from the senator's paternal grandmother confirming his birth in Kenya.

The issue of Obama's birthplace, which he states is Honolulu in 1961, has been raised enough times that his campaign website has posted an image purporting to be of his "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii.

But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged and that he has a tape recording he will soon release.

"This has been a real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months," Berg told Savage. "I'll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States."

He said the telephone call was from Obama's paternal grandmother affirming she "was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."

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Three, be a natural-born citizen. He is not."

Obama campaign officials acknowledged the dispute by posting the image purporting to be a copy of his certification of live birth earlier this year. But they've declined to return WND requests for comment...

WND reported earlier this week Berg's claim that Obama has legally "admitted" the accusations included in his lawsuit, including that he was born in Mombosa, Kenya, by not responding to the allegations.

Berg has cited Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alienobama; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; obama; obamagate; obamaisgoingdown; obamatruthsquad
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To: no dems

Can you say “race riots”?


41 posted on 10/23/2008 11:14:06 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Your point is well taken, but I, personally, refuse to give in to the seeming tide of acceptance of socialistic ideals. And I expect my conservative friends and associates to be, likewise, resistant to such a disastrous course.


42 posted on 10/23/2008 11:14:35 PM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: Klepto
“Pity we can’t focus on facts”

Hey, We're not libtards, we can do more than one thing at a time.

I think we should concentrate on whether this Muslim is qualified to run for President of the United States of America. This is no small matter, Skippy.

43 posted on 10/23/2008 11:14:57 PM PDT by scratcher (I trust the media about as much as I trust al Qaeda.)
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To: no dems

Before the election DNC might choose Hillary/Biden and after the election...electors might choose Hillary/Biden! After the inauguration it becomes Biden choosing a VP. So now we have Biden/Hillary.

Pelosi just sits and hopes they both are not chosen. She is next in line. LOL


44 posted on 10/23/2008 11:16:17 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: KDD
Wasn't Obama’s mother an American citizen from Kansas?

Yes, but I think she was a resident of Hawaii when she got knocked up by a FOREIGN NATIONALIST at the age of 17.

She allegedly had her child at 18. The laws at the time *\(paraphrased) stated that to confer citizenship, one had to have been a legal resident of the USA for 10 years (I think), 5 of which had to be after the age of 14. IOW, his mother would have had to be 19 to pass on citizenship.

45 posted on 10/23/2008 11:16:23 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Klepto
It’s just that I was a trial lawyer and judge for 40 years and, though of course I could be wrong, from what I have found on this issue it looks ludicrous.

It is intriguing and irresistible to to think there could be some crazy twist in the plot where the good guys win. I feel euphoric desperation with each new turn of the birth certificate story. Your observation is keeping me within the reach of reason. My obsession with the birth certificate story might be related to my lack of confidence that we might achieve a conventional victory this election.

46 posted on 10/23/2008 11:17:16 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: dsc

Obama mother was a minor when she gave birth to Obama and the father was a foreign national. If Obama was born overseas, his mother failed the test according to the law in place at the time, and therefore, Obama did not meet the U.S. Constitutional requirement to be a ‘natural born’ citizen.


47 posted on 10/23/2008 11:17:49 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If Obama wins this election, I can only pray that I’m right. This is a rubicon moment for America. God save us! God bless America!


48 posted on 10/23/2008 11:19:48 PM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: Just A Nobody
Yes, but I think she was a resident of Hawaii when she got knocked up by a FOREIGN NATIONALIST at the age of 17.

Very close, she was almost exactly 18 years and 9 months old when she delivered Obama, Jr.

I have a pretty good idea of what she got for an 18th birthday present...

49 posted on 10/23/2008 11:20:13 PM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: null and void

“I have a pretty good idea of what she got for an 18th birthday present... “

LOL!, You know she did :)


50 posted on 10/23/2008 11:22:33 PM PDT by scratcher (I trust the media about as much as I trust al Qaeda.)
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To: downtownconservative

Having followed this issue for many a month, I fully believe BO ineligible for president.
More attention is being directed at his qualifications and background.

There is a tremendous amount of evidence for fraud and deceit. Question is how to make this issue explode by election day. It all becomes academic after that.

If we “collectively” don’t push this out to our local papers, reps, and friends,
we will be telling our kids…
“I don’t regret what I did. I just wish we had done more”


51 posted on 10/23/2008 11:22:36 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Just A Nobody
I remember McCain had a problem with this issue in 2000.

The Supreme Redux: Is John McCain Ineligible to Be President?

52 posted on 10/23/2008 11:22:47 PM PDT by KDD ( it's not what people don't know that make them ignorant it's what they know that ain't so.)
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To: Just A Nobody

Isn’t this all a hoot!

Almost no matter what we prove to our satisfaction I believe that no court will rule in a way that will cause so much anger and disruption in the country. Can you imagine it? Can you imagine his admitting it and withdrawing?

I must say I am afraid wrong will come out “Wright”(LOL) this time. It will be too inconvenient to do what is RIGHT.


53 posted on 10/23/2008 11:26:05 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: kbennkc

I believe Mitt Romney was born in Mexico

Could you be thinking of his father Governor George Romney ?


Yeah, I got them mixed up. But the principle is the same. George Romney was born in Mexico of American missionary parents, yet was a candidate for the presidency and, as far as I know, was considered a natural born citizen.


54 posted on 10/23/2008 11:26:51 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: 3D-JOY

If the glove don’ fit...


55 posted on 10/23/2008 11:28:28 PM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: null and void
an 18th birthday present

LOL! I'm sure!

I did the best I could from memory as I doze off every few seconds. Thanks for the assist. ;*)

56 posted on 10/23/2008 11:29:57 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Red Steel

I wish this guy would get this in the news instead of just goofing around. There isn’t much time before Rosemarys’ Baby becomes our president.


57 posted on 10/23/2008 11:30:23 PM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: Klepto

You know.....DU has some nice forums over there that seem right up your alley.


58 posted on 10/23/2008 11:30:29 PM PDT by freeplancer (McCain Voters Catch the Lobsters-Obama Voters Eat Them)
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To: Klepto

I never thought you would show up here BGolly. Welcome and your secret is safe with me.


59 posted on 10/23/2008 11:32:41 PM PDT by freeplancer (McCain Voters Catch the Lobsters-Obama Voters Eat Them)
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To: FFranco
yes, the old law and both American parents.

Hawaii offered this certificate of live birth because there were so many births at home and away from Hawaii in the early years of statehood. It is dependent on facts given to the registrar and does NOT constitute Citizenship, just recognizes birth.

60 posted on 10/23/2008 11:32:48 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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