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McCain volunteer given polygraph over attack claim
Philly Inquirer ^ | 10/24/2008 | Staff

Posted on 10/24/2008 8:52:49 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

PITTSBURGH - Pittsburgh police say they gave a polygraph test to a McCain campaign volunteer who reported that a tall black man had robbed and later cut her face her after seeing a McCain bumper sticker on her car.

Police spokeswoman Diane Richard says investigators are "looking at some inconsistencies" in the 20-year-old woman's story.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ashleytodd; bogus; dukelacrosseparttwo; fraud; hatecrimehoax; hoax; mugging
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1 posted on 10/24/2008 8:52:49 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

I called it fishy first. Shades of the Runaway bride??


2 posted on 10/24/2008 8:53:43 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Darksheare; pissant; najida; r-q-tek86; blackie; ...

Follow up on yesterday’s PING!!


3 posted on 10/24/2008 8:54:52 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The weakest attempt at a hoax EVER.


4 posted on 10/24/2008 8:54:57 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: pissant

The photo itself seemed fishy when I saw it. To me, it didn’t have the look of a victim I normally see in after crime scene photos. But I could be wrong of course.


5 posted on 10/24/2008 8:54:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama is not qualified for the FBI, but he is qualified for the Presidency????)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This should clear it up one way or the other, I guess.

It’s more than they did w/ Tawana Brawley or the Duke stripper.


6 posted on 10/24/2008 8:55:01 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (Joe Biden behind a microphone is like Ted Kennedy behind a steering wheel)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You never know what bizarre story will surface in election season.


7 posted on 10/24/2008 8:55:14 AM PDT by MittFan08
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To: Red in Blue PA

Wow, usually it takes days or weeks for them to get their crap together before someone takes a polygraph. This must be some kind of record.


8 posted on 10/24/2008 8:55:38 AM PDT by mancini
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To: Red in Blue PA

I dunno - they didn’t do this with oh, Tawana Brawley, or the Lacrosse team victim, did they?


9 posted on 10/24/2008 8:55:38 AM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: pissant
Shades of the Runaway bride??

Shades of Duke La Cross Stripper.

10 posted on 10/24/2008 8:55:39 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Red in Blue PA

When will Obama have a polygraph test?


11 posted on 10/24/2008 8:55:41 AM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: pissant

Isn’t there bank security camera video that can either confirm or dispute this?


12 posted on 10/24/2008 8:55:42 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks
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To: pissant

I knew a lot of girls who made wild claims when I was that age.


13 posted on 10/24/2008 8:56:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: pissant
I called it fishy first.

She may have made it all up. Or the 'inconsistencies' could be nothing and her story is completely true. I guess we'll find out.

If it did happen, I wouldn't be at all surprised. I've been accosted twice already by Obama supporters because of my McCain/Palin bumper sticker and my "Read my lipstick" campaign button.

14 posted on 10/24/2008 8:56:33 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Diane Richards on Fox now....wearing a “Brown shirt” in her picture.....coincidence...../sarcasm.


15 posted on 10/24/2008 8:56:37 AM PDT by thingumbob (McGenius-Palin beats O'bomber-Hide'n (Remember, dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!))
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To: pissant

The pic with the backwards “B” unfortunately smacks of someone looking in a mirror and scratching it.


16 posted on 10/24/2008 8:56:37 AM PDT by Chipper
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Tawana Brawley

I remember that. Afterwards, McDonald's came out with a Tawana Brawley Burger. You'd get a bare hamburger & put your own crap on it.

17 posted on 10/24/2008 8:56:44 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: pissant

Police will not state results, I bet if she failed the lie detector test, it would be all over the news...


18 posted on 10/24/2008 8:56:49 AM PDT by defal33 (Michigan: Stuck on Stupid)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Still doesn’t explain the black eye and swelling on the cheek.


19 posted on 10/24/2008 8:57:05 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: Red in Blue PA

Rotate that photo 180, the B was scratched in from the back or or behind her, or while she was on the ground, feet away from the person who did it. The B isn’t backwards, it’s upside-down.
Not saying it’s real, but that should settle the “mirror” thing.


20 posted on 10/24/2008 8:57:16 AM PDT by shadowspapa (You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

Supposedly the attack happened out of range of the cameras.

After I saw the pictures my belief waned, too. The “B” was just a little too neat to be scratched in by a deranged attacker.


21 posted on 10/24/2008 8:57:24 AM PDT by retrokitten (Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

IF this is a hoax, it is a truly bizzare one. Who would screw up their own face just for attention?......


22 posted on 10/24/2008 8:57:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (My wallet is made out of depleted you-owe-mium........)
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To: Larry Lucido; Cagey; MotleyGirl70; Gamecock

Camera shot on the polygraph. The pen moves back and forth on the paper. Lou and Sergeant Tierney look at each other.

Lou: Did Jane’s finance kidnap Sydney and take her to Las Vegas? And if so, did she enjoy it?

Jerry: I don’t know.

Lou: Did Jane sleep with Michael again?

Jerry: (He hesitates) Yes! That stupid idiot. He left her for Kimberly, he slept with her sister. He tricked her into giving him half her business, and then she goes ahead and sleeps with him again. I mean she’s crazy. How could she do something like that? Oh that Jane, she makes me so mad.

He picks up his coat and leaves.


23 posted on 10/24/2008 8:58:15 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mac from Cleveland
"It’s more than they did w/ Tawana Brawley or the Duke stripper." #### Do I need to say it? Probably not, but I will anyway: Race Pimp Knee-Jerk Mode "That would be racist" Race Pimp Knee-Jerk Mode
24 posted on 10/24/2008 8:58:23 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Did she pass?


25 posted on 10/24/2008 8:58:23 AM PDT by Perdogg (Raila Amollo Odinga - community organizer)
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To: pissant

I dunno, pissant.

She seems a bit more credible than the average “flake”.

I’d like to know who saw her last prior to the attack to confirm it wasn’t a prior injury. I’d also like to know of what the tape(s) show of the assault - there was more than one camera in the area per the video link to a TV station in Pittsburg. The new detail about previous robberys in the same area w/a man matching the same description is interesting too. The PD needs to release the report and results of the polygraph ASAP!

I appreciate all your posts, BTW.

Best to ya -


26 posted on 10/24/2008 8:59:09 AM PDT by happydogx2 (Some trust in horses, some trust in men, but my trust is in the Lord Almighty!)
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To: pissant

Probably an Obama campaign ploy. I’d like to know this girl’s real history. A psycho teen, who supports McCain, faking an attack from a ‘black’ man, is toooo convenient.


27 posted on 10/24/2008 8:59:09 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: pissant
I called it fishy first. Shades of the Runaway bride??

I have to agree. I thought the B etched on her face seem to be too perfect to do if if the attacker had to hold her done.
28 posted on 10/24/2008 8:59:26 AM PDT by Ugot2Bkidding
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To: Red in Blue PA

Folks, let’s give this gal some benefit of the doubt. As far as we know, she is a reputable campaign volunteer. The police are trying to shake her story, which I guess is their job. But inconsistencies are quite understandable in such a situation. It bothers me that the media and blog frenzy seems to be picking up where the attacker left off.


29 posted on 10/24/2008 8:59:46 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: Mac from Cleveland

“It’s more than they did w/ Tawana Brawley or the Duke stripper.”

To even suggest that these honest, fine citizens take a polygraph would have been racist! /sarc


30 posted on 10/24/2008 8:59:46 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: shadowspapa
The woman's own account of how her face came to be marked-the attacker was facing her:

Ms. Todd told police during at least five hours of questioning last night that her attacker said to her, "You are going to be a Barack supporter." She told police the man then sat on her chest, pinning both her hands down with his knees and used what she believed was a dull knife with a roughly 5-inch blade to carve the B.

31 posted on 10/24/2008 9:00:04 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: Red in Blue PA
..you can never rule out disturbed individuals crying out for attention any way they can get it
32 posted on 10/24/2008 9:00:04 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Red Badger

Man, this girl keeps digging a deeper hole:

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

Speaking to Channel 4 Action News on Friday, Richard said they’re still questioning Todd because of some new developments.

“We have learned that the victim’s statement has a few inconsistencies in it and her statement has changed,” said Richard

Richard said Todd now says she isn’t sure if it was a bumper sticker on her car or a campaign button on her jacket that angered the attacker. Richard said Todd added new details to the attack, saying at one point she lost consciousness.

“She also indicated she was sexually assaulted as well. She indicated that when he had her on the ground he put his hand up her blouse and started fondling her. But other than that, she says she doesn’t remember anything else. So we’re adding a sexual assault to this as well,” Richard said.

Police said they gave a polygraph test to Todd, but they aren’t releasing the results.


33 posted on 10/24/2008 9:00:20 AM PDT by MittFan08
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To: Red in Blue PA
I'm surprised she didn't ask to delay a polygraph. You would think the emotions of being mugged could cause problems and if it was a hoax she would beg to delay it.
34 posted on 10/24/2008 9:01:26 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I know it’s out of fashion to give somebody the benefit of the doubt and I would never want to get in the way of some Freppers morphing into DUers as they obviously are. That said, what if by some small chance she is telling the truth and agreed to take the polygraph right away to prove she isnt lying?


35 posted on 10/24/2008 9:01:38 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (That sharp pain to the LibRat's groin is called the Palin Effect.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This time next year she’ll be on celebrity boxing.


36 posted on 10/24/2008 9:01:46 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Has anyone found her description of the attack anywhere?


37 posted on 10/24/2008 9:02:23 AM PDT by Khepri (It's the audacity, stupid!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Damn, they don't make rape victims or other assault victims take polygraphs but this chick is on the wire this fast??

Talk about a frakking double standard.

38 posted on 10/24/2008 9:02:42 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: realcleanguy

“When will Obama have a polygraph test?”

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My first thought as well.


39 posted on 10/24/2008 9:02:50 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: MittFan08

Doesn’t look good.

She forgot she was sexually assaulted????


40 posted on 10/24/2008 9:03:12 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama is not qualified for the FBI, but he is qualified for the Presidency????)
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To: Chipper

... or someone standing over a person with their feet at the victims head.

LLS


41 posted on 10/24/2008 9:03:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: Right Brother
A College girl from Texas in Pennsyanlia for McCain? We need more information.

WE know Obama has students traveling everywhere.

42 posted on 10/24/2008 9:04:05 AM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: Red in Blue PA
And if it been a Hussein worker claiming that a guy went ballistic when he saw the Osama bumper sticker would a polygraph been administered? No,I didn't think so.Her willingness to take the test strongly suggests she's telling the truth so look for a RAT police dept to claim she failed.Then bring in a *real* polygraph interpreter.
43 posted on 10/24/2008 9:04:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: Red in Blue PA
Could be the beginnings of ATM-gate. I hope this doesn't reach up to the McCain campaign.
44 posted on 10/24/2008 9:05:11 AM PDT by TrevorSnowsrap
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To: pissant

Attacker hates Rush Limbaugh...he was trying to write EIB and ran out of time:)


45 posted on 10/24/2008 9:05:21 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (John and Sarah are gonna change the plumbing in Washington!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

No way in hell am I commenting on this story today, not after the flaming I got yesterday.

~walking softly, carrying a very, VERY large stick today~


46 posted on 10/24/2008 9:05:29 AM PDT by hoe_cake (" 'We the people' tell the government what to do, it doesn't tell us." Ronald Reagan)
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To: TornadoAlley3

ROFLMAO


47 posted on 10/24/2008 9:05:58 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Towana Brawley redux.


48 posted on 10/24/2008 9:06:38 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Red in Blue PA

Not only that, but wasn’t this at 9 pm in a busy area in front of an ATM in the middle of a city? Weren’t there any cars in the area? No one to drive up and see a guy on top of a girl with a knife, fondling her and then carving a “B” into her face?

This is just a sick girl- nothing political about this story. Both sides have whackos supporting them- luckily we don’t have as many but there are always a few bad apples. I’m just glad that- with the exception of Drudge - no one on our side jumped to too many conclusions. FoxNews was very skeptical from the start and McCain’s statement was appropriate.


49 posted on 10/24/2008 9:06:53 AM PDT by MittFan08
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To: shadowspapa
The B isn’t backwards, it’s upside-down.

I noticed that two. But if the attacker sat on her chest to pin her arms, I am having a hard time determining how he got the "B" on her right cheek as shown.

50 posted on 10/24/2008 9:07:45 AM PDT by CatOwner
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