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#1 Chicago Beats New York, Los Angeles In Murders [Obamatown]
CBS 2 ^ | 10/24/08 | Mike Puccinelli

Posted on 10/24/2008 8:58:22 PM PDT by XR7

CHICAGO (CBS) ― Chicago is the Second City in nickname and the third in population, but when it comes to murder, the city has the dubious distinction of being second to no city in America.

As CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli reports, the Chicago Sun-Times pointed out on Friday that Chicago has seen 426 homicides this year through Tuesday, compared with 417 in New York and 302 in Los Angeles.

At the end of 1998, Chicago made international headlines as the U.S. "murder capital" after surpassing New York's homicide totals for the first time ever. Chicago shed that dubious distinction when murders plummeted over the last decade.

There are more than 8 million people in New York, compared to slightly under 3 million in Chicago. The population of Los Angeles exceeds that of Chicago by more than 800,000.

Murder is also up, at a lower rate, in New York.

The alarming statistics were expected to come up on Friday when Police Supt. Jody Weis once again appeared before the City Council to address a crime rate that many believe has spun out of control. He appeared at a City Council budget hearing, which began at 10 a.m.

Weis, a career FBI agent, took office this year with a mandate to clean up the department in the wake of several scandals. But murders have risen, and arrests have fallen, on his watch.

Back in July, Weis addressed the media after being grilled by the Council on the subject.

"I don't mind tough questions," Weis said in July, not long after a shooting erupted on the streets of the Loop as crowds were leaving the annual Grant Park fireworks show. "The City of Chicago has the right to ask tough questions, especially when our crime is up nearly 13 percent."

Under tough questioning at a Council hearing that month, Weis suggested there was a "degree of timidness" among officers afraid of having lawsuits and citizen complaints filed against them.

At the hearing Friday, Weis may highlight what police view as a different problem: Officers have spent nearly 5,000 hours filling out inventory forms in the first nine months of 2008. "We'd rather they be on the street," said Beatrice Cuello, deputy superintendent of patrol.

Last year, the Cook County sheriff, who runs the jail, stopped inventorying arrestees' property. Under an agreement with the Police Department, cops took over the task.

"It's not our responsibility," said Steve Patterson, a spokesman for Sheriff Tom Dart. "We had an entire room filled with property.

Chicago is on pace to exceed 500 murders by the end of the year, but that number is far short of even approaching a record. In every year between 1991 and 1994, there were more than 900 homicides in the city, peaking in 1992 with 943 murders. The standing record for homicides in Chicago dates back to 1974, when there were 970 murders.


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1 posted on 10/24/2008 8:58:22 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Change you can believe in.


2 posted on 10/24/2008 8:59:36 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: XR7

O ba ma


3 posted on 10/24/2008 9:00:54 PM PDT by allmost
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To: XR7

to be repeated tenfold on election night if this clown loses...and when he does I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near Chicago


4 posted on 10/24/2008 9:01:21 PM PDT by hercuroc
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To: XR7

Something else we have to look forward to unless we get Republican turnout.


5 posted on 10/24/2008 9:01:46 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: XR7

Did a good job of organizing the gangsta community, huh?


6 posted on 10/24/2008 9:01:48 PM PDT by lightman (Sarah Palin: A REAL woman, not an empty pantsuit!)
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To: XR7

Chicago was tired of being the “second city”.


7 posted on 10/24/2008 9:02:48 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: XR7

When did Detroit drop out of the top 3?


8 posted on 10/24/2008 9:03:14 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: allmost

I predict a President Obama would do everything possible to empty the prisons (at least the Fed. prisons), eliminate the Federal death penalty, reinstate parole, eliminate mandatory minimum sentencing, etc. Not one question that I know of has been put to him on the issue of crime! But we know his mentor Bill Ayres doesn’t even like the IDEA of prison, so that might indicate about where Obamugabe stands.


9 posted on 10/24/2008 9:07:45 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Frank_2001

His mentor expected 25 million dead. Ayers planned for it from what I’ve read.


10 posted on 10/24/2008 9:11:48 PM PDT by allmost
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To: XR7

If my math is correct, one’s chances of being killed in Chicago are about the same as being killed in Iraq.

Chicago could probably use a “surge” and I’m sure Obama would be against it....


11 posted on 10/24/2008 9:13:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: XR7

If O ba ma loses, the Chciago homicide rate just might double on one night.


12 posted on 10/24/2008 9:14:10 PM PDT by GeeMoney (For the record, this was pure sarcasim)
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To: lightman

yep, Chicago has lots of gangs and drugs. It’s not politically correct to talk about certain things, but certain types of people are driving the crime wave.........


13 posted on 10/24/2008 9:16:17 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: XR7

And “O” is going to fix the country the same way!


14 posted on 10/24/2008 9:17:07 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: mlocher
When did Detroit drop out of the top 3?

When the last person worth mugging moved to the burbs.

15 posted on 10/24/2008 9:17:43 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: XR7
Sanctuary City - Check
Strict Gun Laws - Check
No mail delivery in Harvey (just outside of Chicago) due to gun fire - Check
Democrats in control - Check

What the *&%$ do you expect?
16 posted on 10/24/2008 9:18:28 PM PDT by Brizick (Repeal the 17th Amendment)
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To: MediaMole
When the last person worth mugging moved to the burbs.

LOL -- That may have been 25 years ago.

17 posted on 10/24/2008 9:19:13 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: XR7

426 homicides in Chicagoe so far this year compared to 210 killed in Iraq [KIAs] and a total of 279 for all deaths, hostile and non-hostile. McCain should create an ad reflecting this fact, i.e., there are more than twice as many homicides in Chicago this year than KIAs in Iraq. The surge is working.


18 posted on 10/24/2008 9:20:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: XR7

NYC’s population is arund 8.2 mil., Chicago 2.8 mil.

That given, there are nearly 3 times more murders per capita in Obamaland than in NY.

Jeez, dangerous freaking town!


19 posted on 10/24/2008 9:22:01 PM PDT by Chairman of the Bard
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To: Dilbert San Diego
It’s not politically correct to talk about certain things, but certain types of people are driving the crime wave.......

Hey..stop picking on the Amish!

20 posted on 10/24/2008 9:24:31 PM PDT by lightman (Sarah Palin: A REAL woman, not an empty pantsuit!)
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To: XR7

Obama wants the whole country to look like South Chicago.


21 posted on 10/24/2008 9:27:10 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: XR7

All that community organizing was sure successful in bringing about change, don’t you think?

There I go again, forgetting we’re supposed to judge good intentions, not results.


22 posted on 10/24/2008 9:27:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: kabar

What he should do is create an add suggesting that if we’re to pull out of Iraq, we should definitely pull out of Chitcago first.


23 posted on 10/24/2008 9:32:01 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: mlocher
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004902.html

Here's a good site for per 100,000 crime rates of the largest cities. Baltimore leads the way in murder, at 42/100k, followed closely by Detroit at 41.4/100k, the St. Louis, DC, and Newark. Motown also leads the pack in aggravated assault and car theft.

Next to Camden, NJ, Detroit is the scariest place I've ever had the misfortune of visiting.

24 posted on 10/24/2008 9:33:09 PM PDT by Chairman of the Bard
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To: kabar

From a newer thread about bordertown violence:
The situation in Ciudad Juarez is of special concern. Mexican authorities report that more than 1,000 people have been killed there this year.


25 posted on 10/24/2008 9:40:02 PM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: kabar
426 homicides in Chicagoe so far this year compared to 210 killed in Iraq [KIAs] and a total of 279 for all deaths, hostile and non-hostile. McCain should create an ad reflecting this fact, i.e., there are more than twice as many homicides in Chicago this year than KIAs in Iraq.

Paging Rick Davis!

The surge worked in Iraq. Time to redeploy to Chicago!

26 posted on 10/24/2008 9:43:12 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: XR7
The infamous CBS Chicago Summer 2008 Google shooting map:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=104675750739697697598.00044e3957099c263f47c&ll=41.79384,-87.61734&spn=0.457659,0.933838&source=embed

Please play “My Kind of Town (sung by Old Blue Eyes)” link below while looking at the map: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmOOYxU99fI

27 posted on 10/24/2008 10:18:38 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: kabar

It would be a brilliant ad. How do we make this happen FReepers?

Twice as many of his constituents were murdered than KIA in Iraq. Speaks very well to his leadership inadequacies.

I’d also love to know how much of Obama’s million dollars a day in earmarks were used for more law enforcement.


28 posted on 10/24/2008 10:22:00 PM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: XR7

Unfortunately, Jennifer Hudson’s mother and brother can be added to the list. Parts of Chicago support a culture of death. So very sad.


29 posted on 10/25/2008 1:26:25 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Chgogal

That is horrific. What’s so disgusting is that so many of those shootings seem to be outside shootings at innocents. Example:

“August 31, 2 a.m.
Eternity Gaddy, 13, was shot to death while standing with her mother and cousins outside her great-aunt’s house on the West Side.
The family was hours away from leaving Chicago for Allentown, Pa., where they have lived on and off for the last year, when Eternity was shot in the head.”


30 posted on 10/25/2008 1:32:38 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: XR7

I don’t much care for the raw murder totals. What is more important are the per capita figures. I thought New Orleans was worse, per capita.


31 posted on 10/25/2008 2:28:09 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: hercuroc
to be repeated tenfold on election night if this clown loses...and when he does I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near Chicago

If he wins, the "celebrations" might get out of hand too so you'd be kind of boned either way.

32 posted on 10/25/2008 2:57:47 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: XR7

This thread is prima facie a boatload of BS.

We Chicagoans know that, thanks to the the tireless efforts of the Daleys and the Chicago Machine, handguns have been kept out of the hands of law abiding citizens for decades.

There is no way, armed with mere butter knives, that we could lead the nation in murders.


33 posted on 10/25/2008 3:01:31 AM PDT by mike-zed
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To: Chairman of the Bard

Thanks much for the information and the site!


34 posted on 10/25/2008 4:00:42 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: lightman
It’s not politically correct to talk about certain things, but certain types of people are driving the crime wave.......

Hey..stop picking on the Amish!

Don't leave out those murdering Mormons and Christian Scientists. And the Pentecostals. They're all every bit as guilty.

35 posted on 10/25/2008 4:37:35 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (0bama's past associations need a good "Ayering out".)
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To: XR7
#1 Chicago Beats New York, Los Angeles In Murders

What? No Playoffs?
[ cue up the Jim Mora "play-offs?" video ]...

36 posted on 10/25/2008 5:43:55 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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To: Brizick

“Sanctuary City - Check
Strict Gun Laws - Check
No mail delivery in Harvey (just outside of Chicago) due to gun fire - Check
Democrats in control - Check”

Yep, that sums it up nicely. Imagine the hellacious rioting to take place there when Obama loses.


37 posted on 10/25/2008 6:34:18 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: mlocher
When did Detroit drop out of the top 3?

After everybody boarded up the town and left.

38 posted on 10/25/2008 11:31:15 AM PDT by XR7
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To: Chgogal

Looks like the shooters on the North Side have a better aim.


39 posted on 10/25/2008 11:50:39 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

They took the title of Murder Town, USA from Washington, DC because Congress ruled DC’s Communist firearms laws to be unconstitutional.


40 posted on 10/25/2008 1:22:34 PM PDT by wastedyears (Quiet by nature, standing tall)
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To: Sicvee

According to todays El Paso Times there have been 1,150 murders in Juarez so far this year.http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_10810844


41 posted on 10/25/2008 8:40:25 PM PDT by csmusaret (Mortgage meltdown, $4.00 gas, stockmarket meltdown. Welcome to the Pelosi/Reid economy.)
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