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Suppressed Iraq WMD evidence released on YOU TUBE
YouTube ^ | August 2008 | ZibbiX

Posted on 10/24/2008 9:27:50 PM PDT by zibbix

Slide show of items found at Al-Tuwaitha nuclear research facility in the fall of 2003.

In the fall of 2003 the US State Department along with the Defense Threat Reduction Agency undertook a mission to do cleanup at the Iraqi nuclear lab Al-Tuwaitha.

This lab was subject to UN inspections however the UN teams were not able to fully inspect the site during the Saddam regime. This lab was one of the places from which Saddam's men were video recorded by satellite moving WMD material to Syria.

The slide show shows what Saddam's men left behind in their haste to evacuate Al-Tuwaitha ahead of the coalition army forces and the subsequent looting by Iraqi citizens.

In the GSA report to congress link GAO 05-672 http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05672.html Much was omitted about the true nature of what was found at Al-Tuwaitha. Omitted in the report was the finding of old chemical weapons, discarded fire extinguishers that were used as chemical weapons delivery mechanisms, and highly radioactive materials in boxes with German markings.

Other interesting items omitted in the GAO report to congress is the fact that the Iraqi personnel burned out their offices before leaving. The finding of a machine shop with items that appear to be the shape of uranium bomb cores, and underground intact bunkers. The Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson associated (supposedly) non existent barrels of Nigerian yellowcake uranium were also located.

Other items shown are 2 scud missiles found at the Baghdad airport and a used Iraqi chemical protective suit found in the tunnels under the Baghdad airport complex.

The team shown in the photos was hired by the DTRA to do the hazmat cleanup process. The contractor was Raytheon Tech Services. This is the same contractor that was used by the USGOV to assist the Russians with nuclear hazmat cleanup after the end of the cold war.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: altuwaitha; anthrax; bomb; cialeak; election; evidence; iraq; nuke; saddam; suppressed; wmd; wot; youtube
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1 posted on 10/24/2008 9:27:50 PM PDT by zibbix
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To: zibbix

Nothing to see here, move along. The horse is dead...


2 posted on 10/24/2008 9:29:06 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner.)
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To: zibbix

I’m not sure why this doesn’t get the attention it deserves.


3 posted on 10/24/2008 9:31:11 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: zibbix

Colin “Racist” Powell has already apologized to America for allowing Bush and Cheney to make him lie before the UN.

No other evidence will be accepted.....ever.


4 posted on 10/24/2008 9:31:26 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: zibbix

Part of the 550 tonnes before being shipped to Canada in July.

5 posted on 10/24/2008 9:37:27 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: Kickass Conservative
The horse is dead...

Yeah, but there's nothing quite like beating a dead horse.

6 posted on 10/24/2008 9:37:36 PM PDT by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh Is "The Passion" of Conservatism And Pretty Good At That Radio Thingy)
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To: zibbix

I should have released this sooner. I was a government contractor in the Middle east and had a non-disclosure clause in my contract. After reluctantly returning to the US after 4 years, I have decided to release these photos received from a co-worker. The truth has to come out. History needs to be wrote correctly.


7 posted on 10/24/2008 9:46:35 PM PDT by zibbix
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Nice. I got pics of that room just after the million dollar fix up job that somehow forgot to include paint on the walls.


8 posted on 10/24/2008 9:46:36 PM PDT by zibbix
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To: zibbix

Bookmark


9 posted on 10/24/2008 9:46:45 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Well of course it isn't yellow-cake. What fool who is trying to hide stuff would put it into a container the color of what he is trying to hide?

...[/liberal logic]

10 posted on 10/24/2008 9:57:48 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: zibbix

One of the biggest failures of the Bush administration was not communicating this better to the public. It pissed me off that Rush had to carry the water for this subject.
I don’t understand why jvertas has mountains of translated documents and NONE of it goes anywhere with this admin.

Is there something more we’re not supposed to know? Russia and China maybe? Are we in a proxy World War 3?


11 posted on 10/24/2008 10:00:04 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("Why DON'Y you just let PEOOPLEP make up their own MINES who listen?“ (-Candor7)
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To: zibbix
I should have released this sooner. I was a government contractor in the Middle east and had a non-disclosure clause in my contract. After reluctantly returning to the US after 4 years, I have decided to release these photos received from a co-worker. The truth has to come out. History needs to be wrote correctly.

Old Bill Clinton told US all Saddam had enough anthrax to kill US alll or some such threat. I remember 'wild' Bill Cohen touring all the media hot houses carrying a 5 lb sack of sugar to teach US of the impending threat. Magically then their supposed threat disappeared once the Clintons cleaned out 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

I do not mind having history recorded correctly. Thank you for the post.

12 posted on 10/24/2008 10:09:53 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: zibbix

Thanks for posting this. I have spoken of this for years, but no one believes me. Welcome to FR, btw.


13 posted on 10/24/2008 10:10:56 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: GOPPachyderm; CommieCutter
>>>I’m not sure why this doesn’t get the attention it deserves. <<<

Because it is so pathetically done. Al Qaeda has far superior production qualities on their tapes - many fradulent to be sure....but well done.

Who is going to believe that this is the best America can put together given the expetise of Hollywood and American film makers?

If this is the best a Republican administration can come up with (pics are fine - production is abysmal), then we are doomed to a leftist world in America until we learn how to fight!!

14 posted on 10/24/2008 10:16:44 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: GOPPachyderm; CommieCutter; zibbix
RandallFlagg: WMDs = Cheese
Just a theory I had. It could still apply as Syria is still in play.
15 posted on 10/24/2008 10:18:59 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: zibbix

This has been on YouTube for two months, and only 215 views? This should have been viral!


16 posted on 10/24/2008 10:25:55 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: HardStarboard

http://rotstar.blogspot.com/2008/07/saddams-yellowcake-fitting-resolution.html


17 posted on 10/24/2008 10:37:58 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: zibbix
Well the problem is that President Bush said there was no WMDs. So .... Just so par for the course. Thanks to Bush not pointing VERY IMPORTANT issues such as this out. Now we are probably going to get a Marxist racist President that was born in a foreign nation.
18 posted on 10/24/2008 10:53:13 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: zibbix; Eagle Eye

BTTT

Eagle Eye, this may bring back memories!!!


19 posted on 10/24/2008 11:01:04 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: CommieCutter; jveritas

ping.


20 posted on 10/24/2008 11:03:51 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: zibbix; Peach

Ping if you lurk anymore.


21 posted on 10/24/2008 11:05:12 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: zibbix

Why do you think the Bush administration hid the truth by suppressing Iraq WMDs?


22 posted on 10/24/2008 11:57:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: zibbix
It would have worked better if the videographer had not delegated the narration to his Mac. LOL!

Actually, this material would have been presented on a web page with photos and captions than as a Youtube slide show.

23 posted on 10/25/2008 12:17:15 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Paine in the Neck

bump for later viewing


24 posted on 10/25/2008 3:22:18 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: zibbix

Reality 101.
- You have just invaded an took a country with WMD.
- The army has gone home and you are having to reconstitute from scratch.
- The WMD materials and warheads are all over the place and not secured.
- Due to the security, you do not know all the places they were stored.
- Radical terrorists are starting to conduct ops against you, are in the country, and would love to gain WMD.

What do you do?
- “It was a mistake.”
- “They must have got rid of them.”
- And while you are publicaly taking that political hit,
you systematically clean up every weapons depot you can find.

Two days ago they found 5 filled and 19 unfilled 155mm shells in a hidden cache north of Baghdad.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2114317/posts

There is a reason for you having to sign that NDA concerning classified material.

Some of that crap is still unsecured...


25 posted on 10/25/2008 5:33:01 AM PDT by DJ Elliott
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To: DJ Elliott

And the political result of not releasing this info is that the whole country is likely about to be unsecured. And I don’t mean Iraq, I mean the USA.


26 posted on 10/25/2008 5:41:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: HardStarboard

I am not a Republican, Nor currently associated with any political party. I am also not a professional producer. Your criticism does not address the evidence in a meaningful way.


27 posted on 10/25/2008 5:42:57 AM PDT by zibbix
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To: Red Steel

no idea. spoke with several weapons inspectors they found stuff also. the inspectors thing that the politicians were too smart for their own good and tried to hide things for intel reasons that backfired.


28 posted on 10/25/2008 5:43:24 AM PDT by zibbix
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To: cynwoody

I have hundreds of photos if the place, much more than was released here. I had the photos in a pdf and report but it got nowhere.

As far as the press goes, A news story in a Brit newspaper was killed off no explanation using these photos. I have had several former military intel people look at the photos and they confirmed everything I said.

The photos scared the hell out of the news reporters I showed them to. The ones smart to recognize the items in the photos that is.


29 posted on 10/25/2008 5:43:25 AM PDT by zibbix
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To: Red Steel

I think that since State Department/DTRA/Coalition Authority awarded the contract, it was someone there. Not all Americas enemies are outside of the government. What better way to sabotoge President Bush for revenge over perceived Florida election results than to screw up the WMD search. That is one idea.

The other is that the intel agencies wanted Iraq and Syria to not know that we knew what really happened. A intel game. Sometimes the intel weenies are too smart for their own good.


30 posted on 10/25/2008 5:43:25 AM PDT by zibbix
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To: DJ Elliott

my NDA was no contact with the press. I also was contracted to a non American company. I am no longer bound by the NDA. It expired at the termination of my employment.

Who said anything about NDA and classified material? The Washington Post was the only news agency that bothered to come out to the lab when it was opened to reporters. He took way more detailed photos than what I posted. One small article was published that got buried. Green Peace was the ones who complained about the looted material killing the locals.

You really need to review the GAO report to congress, compare that to what was not said or described in my photos.


31 posted on 10/25/2008 6:14:26 AM PDT by zibbix
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To: FreedomPoster

Interesting.


32 posted on 10/25/2008 6:19:00 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Speak softly and carry a big stick, preferably in .45)
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To: FreedomPoster; zibbix

BS

By publicising these details you are advertising to the jihadis that there is WMD materials available in Iraq. You are providing them with their intel.

That is why the government says there is not while cleaning up everything they can find.

It is not just the good guys that read the press or watch youtube.


33 posted on 10/25/2008 7:59:38 AM PDT by DJ Elliott
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To: zibbix

Note: I am used to thinking of NDA in USG rules. As in part of a security clearance. And the “Knowing and willing disclosure of classified matterial” is still a felony whether military or civilian if you signed one of those. Employed there still or not...


34 posted on 10/25/2008 8:05:45 AM PDT by DJ Elliott
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To: RandallFlagg
I remember that thread, Randall.

I thoroughly agree, then and now.

35 posted on 10/25/2008 8:21:34 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: zibbix

BUMP


36 posted on 10/25/2008 8:24:10 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: zibbix

Thanks for posting


37 posted on 10/25/2008 8:30:58 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: zibbix

How come none of the personnel handling the dangerous chemicals and radioactive materials are suited up?


38 posted on 10/25/2008 8:39:08 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: Chgogal
Yes it does, even though what I saw wasn't nuc material.

However, I did see posters and training manuals depicting offensive use of chemical weapons so I'm of the opinion that they trained for that possibility.

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39 posted on 10/25/2008 8:39:08 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!!!)
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To: zibbix

Sorry, meant to ping you on my reply.

Also sorry about the huge photos...forgot to check!


40 posted on 10/25/2008 8:46:18 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!!!)
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To: Eagle Eye; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Oh Eagle Eye, they are just drums of kool aid, you silly NEOCON! Always trying to scare us civilians and getting us into wars. BTW, is DYMETHYL SULFATE a new kool aide flavor Saddam invented? /s

Good Morning! : )

41 posted on 10/25/2008 8:53:54 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: zibbix
We don't talk about things like that around here.

Bad idea.

There's still plenty of scum in this country who would love to find things like that...

...and use them against us.

42 posted on 10/25/2008 9:33:23 AM PDT by Allegra (NO giving up, NO quitting, NO doom and gloom, NO drama queens...VOTE.)
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To: zibbix

You should have read the NDA more carefully. They don’t expire when you quit your job. Everything you saw is non-disclosable unless and until the government deems it so. The photographs or intelligence gathered while you were working for the Government still belong to the government and you are not entitled to release them of your own volition.


43 posted on 10/25/2008 9:59:03 AM PDT by yazoo
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To: yazoo
You should have read the NDA more carefully. They don’t expire when you quit your job. Everything you saw is non-disclosable unless and until the government deems it so. The photographs or intelligence gathered while you were working for the Government still belong to the government and you are not entitled to release them of your own volition.

Correct-a-mundo.

There are very valid reasons for any information there might be about WMD not being made public.

Very valid reasons.

44 posted on 10/25/2008 10:14:20 AM PDT by Allegra (NO giving up, NO quitting, NO doom and gloom, NO drama queens...VOTE.)
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To: yazoo

what are psychic? You seem to be an expert on contracts you have never read.


45 posted on 10/25/2008 10:55:14 AM PDT by zibbix
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To: metesky

Read the GAO report. It is accurate but it has glaring omissions making the conclusions given to congress false. Your answers are there and many more qusetions to be asked.

Suits are not practical at 130 degrees. Everyone had rad monitors. Suits don’t stop radiation just make easier to wash off.


46 posted on 10/25/2008 10:55:16 AM PDT by zibbix
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To: zibbix; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; Cindy; Velveeta; nw_arizona_granny; FARS; Battle Axe; ...

ping...


47 posted on 10/25/2008 11:07:24 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: zibbix
>>>. Your criticism does not address the evidence in a meaningful way.<<<

I have no criticism of the evidence....I believe it!

I apologize for not wording my post more specifically.

One way to put my criticism is that the presentation fails to hang together for those who do not have a technical appreciation of what a nuclear facility might look like, and/or belive that no nuclear WMD program existed.

The presentation, as it is, is fine for those of us that have not fallen for the leftwing propaganda machine saying that WMD did not exist in Saddam's Iraq. You did a credible job given that you did not have professional help with the presentation.

A more detailed presentation with subtitles, arrows pointing to items being described, and voices of some of the various experts doing the inspections, would have been convincing to a wider audience. Interviews with some of the key technical players would also have been effective.

The Bush administration has failed miserably in capitalizing on the truth of what we found in Iraq after the brilliantly waged decapitation of Saddam's terrorist government.

The job (not yours, but the US Government's) should have been to convince the general public that we went to war because Saddam posed a significant threat; in this case - nuclear.

48 posted on 10/25/2008 12:05:17 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: zibbix

Look, if you were in Iraq working for a private company collecting information on WMD the only customer your company could have had was the USG. No one else would have hired your company to do that kind of collecting, and your company would not have been allowed to conduct such collection without the government being the customer. The USG is in charge in Iraq. I don’t need to read any contract to know that whatever data you collected or photographs you took belong to the USG. Furthermore, I don’t know what government contract you are familiar with, but a non disclosure agreement does not end when you leave the company, otherwise it would be completely worthless. Do you suppose that if you had left the company and come back to the US you would be entitled to immediately release all the information you were privy to? It’s absurd.


49 posted on 10/25/2008 1:22:53 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: EyeGuy

I never liked Powell. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but I just didn’t like him or trust him.

True colors.....now showing..

ba


50 posted on 10/25/2008 1:37:59 PM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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