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GWU/Battleground Poll: 049, M46
GWU/Battleground ^
Posted on 10/25/2008 3:04:52 PM PDT by Chet 99
GWU/Battleground Poll: 049, M46
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; battleground; gwu; mccain; obama
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:04:52 PM PDT
by
Chet 99
To: Chet 99
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:05:31 PM PDT
by
nhwingut
(,)
To: Chet 99
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:08:14 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: nhwingut
DANG! He is still leading by 3, but, he can’t seem to seal the deal! STILL under 50%!
To: RoseofTexas
UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
They don’t poll on weekends !!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:10:48 PM PDT
by
PaRep
To: RoseofTexas
Barring a significant development to McCain’s disadvantage, I believe he’ll win.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:11:13 PM PDT
by
skeeter
To: RoseofTexas
What's the party ID weighing? I still think we need to subtract 3 points for Obama.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:11:45 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: RoseofTexas
A week ago I wrote a column here saying that the pollsters had to get their samples in line with reality. Apparently Rasmussen is pig-headed and insists on overpolling Dems, but IDB-Tipp and Battleground are coming right into line.
If they have McCain down 2 nationally, he wins the EC. If it's tied nationally, he wins IA and NH too, and we probably save another 5-6 congressional seats.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:12:02 PM PDT
by
LS
("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
To: Chet 99
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:15:01 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
To: LS
I called this election back in September but if you and I are wrong, we'll eat crow. I'm prepared to do mea culpas on this forum on Nov. 5th. I just hope we won't be.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:16:08 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
Perish the thought of eating crow goldstategop, the media is trying EVERYTHING it can demoralize voters, pushback is called for!
Decent news, but keep an eye on undecideds, they are the election, and I’d love to know in what districts the early voting has grown.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:18:55 PM PDT
by
padre35
(Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
To: Chet 99
Just remember folks: the polls showing a double digit or high single digit lead will be absolutely correct...if Republicans don’t show up! It’s up to us. We turn out in droves, we’ll make fools out of the pollsters and the pundits. But if we listen to the pollsters and the media trying to convince us the race is over, if we give in to the propaganda and stay home, then those polls will be accurate and they will have successfully manipulated us into giving Obama the victory.
So what’s it going to be?
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:20:16 PM PDT
by
Humbug
(ignore the media and the polls and keep fighting)
To: PaRep
What are you saying? GWU/Battleground doesn’t Poll on the weekend? I didn’t know that! Ummmmm is right!
To: LS
We should know about NH fairly early in the night correct? If McCain wins NH early in the night we will know it is going to be a very good night.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:20:54 PM PDT
by
wolf24
("It's always easy to rally the stupid.")
To: padre35
I'm not privy to the entire country. All we can do is pray. I voted but I can't stop fellow Americans from taking the country over the cliffs. Pray for America!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:21:44 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: RoseofTexas
Nope that is why the are VERY accurate
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:21:47 PM PDT
by
PaRep
To: wolf24
The only flaw in the ointment is the TV networks will call states early for Obama even if they are close. They will call states late for McCain or hold back if they are close. Just something to watch out for on Election Night.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:23:36 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: Humbug
We turn out in droves, well make fools out of the pollsters and the pundits. Is all the anti-turnout propaganda going to work on the base? I don't think so. 1. this is not 2006; this is a Presidential election, and 2. I believe the base, by and large, is onto these tactics.
We'll see.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:23:54 PM PDT
by
wolf24
("It's always easy to rally the stupid.")
To: LS
It seems to me that the polls are being used to shape public opinion, rather than reflect public opinion.
Pollsters seem to be oversampling d-rats in some internals, and as we get closer to the actual election, they get more realistic, or as you said, “...had to get their samples in line with reality.”
Perhaps the liberty pollster take in telling us the truth is lie number 49 in the next installment of your terrific book, “48 Liberal Lies About American History.”
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:25:29 PM PDT
by
AdvisorB
(Baraq is the Arabic name of the winged horse that took mohammed to paradise from the DomeoftheRock)
To: PaRep
So it’s a given they’ll do it tomorrow and again next saturday?!
To: goldstategop
No doubt. Believe me, I remember the media calling Ohio for Gore with about 1% if precincts reporting back in 2000.
If they don't call NH for either candidate, I will take that as a very good sign.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:26:12 PM PDT
by
wolf24
("It's always easy to rally the stupid.")
To: Mr.Smorch
They're trying to shape public opinion. They're not telling us how people will actually vote next month, unless they can read people's minds!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:27:00 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: RoseofTexas
The Poll sunday night & through the week don’t know about the last weekend
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:27:09 PM PDT
by
PaRep
To: wolf24
But every state that goes for Obama, they will post early to create that juggernaut image they want people to have. And like in 2000, they hope GOP voters in key states get so demoralized, they give up and go home. We all remember how they called FL for Gore on the basis of completely misleading exit poll data.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:29:30 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
Comment #25 Removed by Moderator
To: goldstategop
The only flaw in the ointment is the TV networks will call states early for Obama even if they are close. Fox News won't.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:31:55 PM PDT
by
careyb
To: careyb
Fox News won't.
Actually, not so sure about that anymore, ever since they veered far to the Left.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:41:48 PM PDT
by
jstolzen
(All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
To: All
I'll state the obvious again:
The “Bradley Effect” will kick in to a much more significant degree than has been anticipated.
When the earlier results of the Clinton-Obama primaries in WVa, Ky, and other “ culture-sensitive” states are closely analyzed, it becomes evident that there is a reservoir of cultural voters out in the hustings — across the country —who simply would not vote for a Black under any circumstance.
Needless to say, these same voters would never reveal their feelings to any pollster — or for that matter — to even their closest friends.
What this percentage is of the total electorate is, in my view, the 64 dollar question, in this election.
My gut tells me it may be adequate to see Detroit in flames.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:43:23 PM PDT
by
dk/coro
To: UpstateNYConservative
This is yesterdays poll. Battleground does not release polls on Saturdays.Yes it is, but I don't recall seeing it posted here before, just the "Obama by 14" polls.
FWIW if "Bradley" effect is just 2, 49-2=47 O, 46+2=46 M.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:51:25 PM PDT
by
Sooth2222
("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
To: RoseofTexas
Undecideds always went to Hillary.
I think McCain will get the undecideds.
If they haven’t decided to support “The One” already they way he has been pushed down our throats, they aren’t likely to do so.
To: wolf24
Is all the anti-turnout propaganda going to work on the base? I don't think so. 1. this is not 2006; this is a Presidential election, and 2. I believe the base, by and large, is onto these tactics. I believe so too but it is disconcerting when even some Freepers (who you think would know better) seemingly throw in the towel whenever a new Zogby or Rasmussen poll comes out. Conversely, though, there is talk that if Democrats feel they have it in the bag then a number of them may not bother showing up. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
As long as McCain has the BIG MO at the end (the last 3-4 days) then i feel very good about our chances. Hopefully they have a brilliant end game strategy ready to go.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:54:25 PM PDT
by
Humbug
(ignore the media and the polls and keep fighting)
To: Retired Greyhound
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:57:50 PM PDT
by
PaRep
To: Sooth2222
oops!
FWIW if "Bradley" effect is just 2, 49-2=47 O, 46+2=48 M.
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posted on
10/25/2008 3:58:10 PM PDT
by
Sooth2222
("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
To: LS
I think some pollsters are going to stick to their inflated projections because they actually believe the electorate is going to turn out like that. So it wouldn’t surprise me to have kooky polls all the way to Election Day.
To: Humbug
Im getting in line now !!!!!
To: Sooth2222
A few weeks ago, I saw Brit Hume ask Juan Williams about the “Bradley effect”. He said the Obama campaign is estimating it to be about 5%.
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posted on
10/25/2008 4:13:48 PM PDT
by
betsyross60
(God bless our troops everywhere!)
To: betsyross60
A few weeks ago, I saw Brit Hume ask Juan Williams about the Bradley effect. He said the Obama campaign is estimating it to be about 5%.How does one measure the fear of crypto-muslims effect.
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posted on
10/25/2008 4:16:58 PM PDT
by
Stentor
(Obama is Bill Ayers' Renfield.)
To: wolf24
We should know about NH fairly early in the night correct? If McCain wins NH early in the night we will know it is going to be a very good night.
You are forgetting the media template my friend. When a Republican wins a state it isn't called until midnight. When a Democrat is even close to winning it is called at 7 PM!
To: Stentor
My guess....it’s even higher! Of course the 5% could be an over estimation by their campaign.
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posted on
10/25/2008 4:22:21 PM PDT
by
betsyross60
(God bless our troops everywhere!)
To: over3Owithabrain
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posted on
10/25/2008 4:27:38 PM PDT
by
wolf24
("It's always easy to rally the stupid.")
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