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Plumbergate? GOP Asks If Dems Breached Joe's Tax Records (Records illegally Breached By Obama?)
ABC NEWS ^ | Jake Tapper

Posted on 10/25/2008 11:43:17 PM PDT by DrHannibalLecter

Rudy Giuliani suggests Obama campaign illegally accessed Joe Wurzelbacher's records.

McCain Campaign Insinuates Joe the Plumber's Private Records Were Illegally Breached as "Political Retribution" by the Obama Campaign, Compares it to Watergate

The Columbus Dispatch reports that "state and local officials are investigating if state and law-enforcement computer systems were illegally accessed when they were tapped for personal information about 'Joe the Plumber,'" the nickname of Joe Wurzelbacher.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dirtytricks; electionviolence; joetheplumber; plumbergate; privacy; smearcampaign

1 posted on 10/25/2008 11:43:17 PM PDT by DrHannibalLecter
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To: DrHannibalLecter

Obama- “All your government computers are belong to us!”


2 posted on 10/25/2008 11:44:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

The Obama is entitled to inspect the records of all he intends to rule.

How dare they question The Obama!


3 posted on 10/25/2008 11:45:16 PM PDT by dman4384
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To: DrHannibalLecter

Had to be Obama’s moonbats.


4 posted on 10/25/2008 11:45:33 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

which brings up OBama’s previous support of FISA.........


5 posted on 10/25/2008 11:45:40 PM PDT by DrHannibalLecter
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To: DrHannibalLecter

I would like to ferret out who ran that tax information, link them to Obama, and have Joe the Plumber sue the crap out of that municipality and the Democrats.

They have free 24/7 adoration and investigations by the MSM, but using public officials to investigate partisan causes, that is too much.

Sue the sh*t out of him, I hear John Edwards will represent you.


6 posted on 10/25/2008 11:47:38 PM PDT by wac3rd (Conservatives are not always Republicans...and vice-versa.)
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To: wac3rd

http://abcnews.go.com/

ABCNEWS Frontpage calls it: Plumbergate? GOP Asks If Dems Breached Joe’s Tax Records

that’s why the title is as such


7 posted on 10/25/2008 11:51:03 PM PDT by DrHannibalLecter
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To: DrHannibalLecter

If this country had some sort of media, this would be one hell of an investigation for some up and coming young reporter. Unfortunately....


8 posted on 10/25/2008 11:51:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

This is what we can expect from the Obamanation fascist government.


9 posted on 10/25/2008 11:51:23 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: DrHannibalLecter

I have no idea who was rifling through Joe’s government records, but when Palin was selected for the VP slot someone at the police union in Alaska said they were immediately contacted by Obama campaign staffers seeking dirt on Palin. I wouldn’t be surprised if calls were made to Unions representing government workers in Ohio to see what they could dig up on Joe. It’s no secret that Union Bosses have sold out the rank and file members by using all resources to trade favors with the Obama campaign.


10 posted on 10/25/2008 11:51:58 PM PDT by purplelobster
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To: DrHannibalLecter

What sane voter could possibly want to allow the Obamessiah’s team and all of his corrupt and criminal Chicago cronies to control much of the US govt.????

Please, America, wake up — JUST SAY NO to the Obamanation!!


11 posted on 10/25/2008 11:52:32 PM PDT by Enchante (The real "bitter clingers" are on the LEFT -- ranting Obamabots clinging to delusions!!)
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To: wac3rd
Sue the sh*t out of him, I hear John Edwards will represent you.

Nah! Joe needs a good Jewish ambulance chaser lawyer. Since Obama isn't very fond of Jewish people, a Jewish lawyer might do it free of charge.

12 posted on 10/25/2008 11:52:39 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: DrHannibalLecter
The way Obama and his MSM buddies attacked Joe the Plumber reminds me of the days and years leading up to World War II and the way the SS and the Gestapo attacked people. Pure Socialism with a touch of Nazism for added flavor. Slowly they tell you what a person can do, say, have (weapons). Then they slowly take them all away. Frog in the boiling water system. Take it away slowly and the useless idiots won't complain until it's too late. It will be late for the United States on November 4th.
13 posted on 10/25/2008 11:53:02 PM PDT by antiunion person (If you're patriotic, don't vote the Obama/Biden ticket.)
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To: realcleanguy
This is what we can expect from the Obamanation fascist government.

Remember the FBI Files and Hillary?

14 posted on 10/25/2008 11:55:27 PM PDT by Vortex (Garbage In, Garbage Out)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

Rudy: “All Joe the plumber did was ask a question.”


15 posted on 10/25/2008 11:57:17 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: antiunion person
Slowly they tell you what a person can do, say, have (weapons).

Do you really think they will go slow????

16 posted on 10/25/2008 11:57:44 PM PDT by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: AHerald

the full article:

Let the Wild Charges Begin: McCain Campaign Insinuates Joe the Plumber’s Private Records Were Illegally Breached as “Political Retribution” by the Obama Campaign, Compares it to Watergate
October 25, 2008 6:25 PM

The Columbus Dispatch reports that “state and local officials are investigating if state and law-enforcement computer systems were illegally accessed when they were tapped for personal information about ‘Joe the Plumber,’” the nickname of Joe Wurzelbacher.

“Public records requested by The Dispatch disclose that information on Wurzelbacher’s driver’s license or his sport-utility vehicle was pulled from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database three times shortly after the debate. Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department. It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why. Direct access to driver’s license and vehicle registration information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business.”

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and former Ohio Attorney General Betty Montgomery participated in a conference call set up by the McCain campaign to chat about this. (You can listen to the call HERE.)

Montgomery called for the inspector general in Ohio to immediately launch an investigation. “There are still very many questions to be answered,” Montgomery said.

“In light of all of the allegations that are going on all over the country of voter fraud,” Giuliani said, “to have this revelation also it seems to me to be something that is of really great concern to all of us.”

“All Joe the Plumber did is ask a question,” Giuliani said, giggling. “That should not open American citizens to having — if this happened — their private records probed because of some sort of political retribution. And if this is the way an Obama administration is going to conduct itself, the American people should know this before the fact.”

When a reporter asked if there was any evidence that these records were breached by anyone with a political agenda, Giuliani said, “If this were someone on the Republican side you would not be asking the question.” He said the inspector general needed to get to the bottom of why the information was sought.

When a reporter told Giuliani he was making some serious insinuations that the Obama campaign was involved in this, the former Mayor responded, “I don’t know if this came from the Obama campaign or not, but I think we have a right to find out. It is curious…”

Alluding to the Watergate break-in, Montgomery said it may be that this was “just a ‘third-rate burglary,’ quote, unquote, but it may not be, you never know.”

“It does discourage people from asking questions,” Giuliani said, “if they think that all of a sudden either at the direction of the campaign or just spontaneously all their personal records are going to get revealed if they ask a difficult question.”

— jpt


17 posted on 10/25/2008 11:58:09 PM PDT by DrHannibalLecter
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To: DrHannibalLecter

“It does discourage people from asking questions,” Giuliani said, “if they think that all of a sudden either at the direction of the campaign or just spontaneously all their personal records are going to get revealed if they ask a difficult question.”

SCARY!


18 posted on 10/25/2008 11:58:57 PM PDT by RatsDawg (I love Palin :))
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Barrack Hussein's thugs are watching YOU !
19 posted on 10/25/2008 11:59:17 PM PDT by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: DrHannibalLecter
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20 posted on 10/25/2008 11:59:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

My article was about Palin’s supposed funny stuff in the bid process for her pipeline.


21 posted on 10/25/2008 11:59:52 PM PDT by wac3rd (Conservatives are not always Republicans...and vice-versa.)
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To: Enchante
"What sane voter could possibly want to allow the Obamessiah’s team and all of his corrupt and criminal Chicago cronies to control much of the US govt.????"

How that bat eared little turd got as far as he did escapes me. I guess PT Barnum had it right.

22 posted on 10/26/2008 12:03:48 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

When a reporter asked if there was any evidence that these records were breached by anyone with a political agenda, Giuliani said, “If this were someone on the Republican side you would not be asking the question.” He said the inspector general needed to get to the bottom of why the information was sought.

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michelle -

“It amazes me how white people are so quick to constantly make these generalizations, without thinking through the implications of such statements.”

“To be a Republican you have to believe that working in the same building as an aging 60’s radical, is a huge deal”—phil

“Brief summary: Joe Wurzelback (no not “Joe the plumber”, that name is a McCain invention), Joe asked Obama a question, Obama responds nicely.” phil

“I just have to get this off my chest. Republicans are the most egocentric, egotistical, red-neck, racist, back-woods, uneducated, USELESS, bunch of people their jesus, god, creator, or mythical homeless man ever created...” The Other First Dude

“Birth Certificate????? Where is Sarah Palin’s Medical records???? Did she really give birth to her last child? No offense to Baby Trig, Bless you sweet child. we just want to know your mother’s real name.” decided 08

“Once again, Joe the unlicensed Plumber was planted in his yard playing catch with his son for the first time ever (just ask his neighbors). The Republican party knew that Barack Obama was going to be campaigning there, and they got Joe the unlicensed Plumber to ask that specific question. he was probably promised alot of goodies if McCain wins the election. Anyway, what is wrong with the rich spreading the wealth, most of them got it by stealing from us (the middle class)anyway. Go OBAMA/BIDEN 08” decided 08

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/let-the-wild-ch.html


23 posted on 10/26/2008 12:07:05 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: blackbart.223
gasp** ABCNEWS putting this story frontpage 3 am on sunday morning...i'll take that for what its worth
24 posted on 10/26/2008 12:08:00 AM PDT by DrHannibalLecter
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To: Vortex

Yeah, but BO isn’t even in the White House yet, and he’s already doing this


25 posted on 10/26/2008 12:14:33 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: DrHannibalLecter

26 posted on 10/26/2008 12:19:55 AM PDT by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

Obama? Nah. Maybe some unaffiliated, over zealous supporters.

Oh, wait...Joe?

Joe Wurzelbacher?

Joe... isn’t he a ...plumber?

I want the tapes! The TAPES! Do you hear me? I want ALL the tapes, INCLUDING the missing 20 minutes!

I want that B*****d NAILED! I don’t care HOW long he tries to stonewall, GET HIM!


27 posted on 10/26/2008 12:20:25 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: RatsDawg
on another thread they had a link to DU and they have a special email to snitch on any peeps or websites smearing “the ones” name. smear@truthfightsback.com (”Report a smear here, and make sure you put down all the information asked for. This will help us keep track of all the smear operations across the country!”_) they even ask for the FULL text of a email where the smear is present. would this not give them info into who sent the email? funny, but what obama finds smearing is truth. scary times.
28 posted on 10/26/2008 12:52:59 AM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI
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To: DrHannibalLecter

Just imagine the Gerstapo/Stasi/KGB crap Obama and his devoted minions will assemble if they are in power.

God help you if you get on the wrong side of anyone in that power structure, because they will do anything, absolutely anything, to ruin you.


29 posted on 10/26/2008 12:56:13 AM PDT by spodefly (Recycling the same posts in multiple threads for seven years!)
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im gotta feeling this story is goin somewhere. This wasn’t no Kos Kid snoopin around. 3 different government agency”s computers hacked??...i dont think so. Toledo police department...and then 300 miles away in Columbus?? HMMM....somethin smells rotten in Denmark.


30 posted on 10/26/2008 1:38:23 AM PDT by basalt
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To: DrHannibalLecter
Why wouldn't they... Look at how Schumer's minions illegally accessed Michael Steele's credit report, and probably other government information, in order to try to dig up dirt on the man.

IIRC, nothing was ever done about it, other than a slap on the wrist, and Schumer walked away from it, and survived to slime others again and again.

Chuck Schumer: The man reminds me of a cross between a used car salesman and a mob lawyer, without the integrity or fashion sense of either.

Mark

31 posted on 10/26/2008 1:57:29 AM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: basalt

My lovely was home with her family this week. They are big Obama supporters. She asked them why they are supporting Obama? They gave her the standard “hope and change” lines. She asked them about Joe and Obama’s response. They had no clue what she was talking about.

So they settled in to watch TV. First show they put on? Gwen Ifill. Then they watched CNN and MSNBC the rest of the evening.

This is why people are useful idiots of the left.

“Control the information and you control the people”


32 posted on 10/26/2008 1:59:35 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I can’t believe “hope and change” bs campaign works at all. People want real practical solutions to their problems, yet they accept this fluff garbage from Obama.

People act like a bunch of spoiled college kids who don’t have to work. Our system is too successful and too idiot proof... courtesy of trial lawyers and unions, I suppose.


33 posted on 10/26/2008 3:45:59 AM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The IRS remains in control of the DNC. Thank you, Pres. Bush.


34 posted on 10/26/2008 4:23:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: DrHannibalLecter
Obama will be able to throw them under the bus and get by with it. He'll just claim it was some rogue DMV worker who just happens to wear their Obama T-Shirt to work and yells at coworkers if they say anything about their refusal to issue license to anyone who looks like they might support McCain (a white person).
35 posted on 10/26/2008 4:52:48 AM PDT by tobyhill (His name is Barrack Hussein Obama for a reason.)
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To: teletech
Profound response. I was watching a crime show that did just that. The defendant was a murderer and arrogant. For the cross the prosecution team put up Jewish lawyer who the defendant hated. The lawyer hammered away and the defendant just EXPLODED! Basically convicting him self on the stand.(When polled that is exactly what the jury said?
36 posted on 10/26/2008 5:56:10 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

Bumping for those who may not have seen this. FNC get on this story.


37 posted on 10/26/2008 6:05:27 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local House Republicans. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: McGruff
I'm old enough to remember Watergate.

And NYS's recent Troopergate scandal, unreported but not forgotten, also springs to mind.

Not to mention all the dirty tricks the Toons have employed.

The 'Rats have become what they profess to hate.

Tricky Dick, eat yer heart out.

38 posted on 10/26/2008 6:08:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: timestax

39 posted on 10/26/2008 7:03:03 AM PDT by wack-m and stack-m (DONE AND DONE!)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

I would call for a special prosecuter... maybe Fitz can stop worrying so much over Plame and get the true facts on Joe the Plumber.

Tax records are never public information. Who in the Obama camp did the dirty work?


40 posted on 10/26/2008 7:10:27 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Night of the Obama Zombies (Premier 11/04/08. Coming to a neighborhood near you))
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To: DrHannibalLecter

Seems like standard ci-cago operating procedure to us. Pretend to be above it all while sending in the goons.


41 posted on 10/26/2008 7:22:06 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Just like to "BORK" someone, the new buzz word will be "Wurzelbacher"!

Can you see the headlines of Aug. 2010: The Obama administration today ordered a so called "Wurzelbacher" on Rush Limbaugh!

42 posted on 10/26/2008 8:54:26 AM PDT by jaz.357 (Democrats who wish to "sleep in" November 4th, may vote on November 17th or 24th.)
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To: DrHannibalLecter
Saul Alinsky tactics. You don't debate with those who question you. You destroy them, completely, totally and without remorse using any means at your disposal.

Look for more of the same if the leftist win next week and gain the levers of power.

43 posted on 10/26/2008 9:07:13 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

BTTT

McCain talking right now about Joe getting smeared, I wish he would mention this accessing of his private info.


44 posted on 10/26/2008 11:22:49 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: DrHannibalLecter
This is obviously an intentional act. This is evident when the 10/24/08 Columbus Dispatch article stated a “test account” assigned to the information technology section. The ‘perp’ used a test account to try to cover his/her tracks, because no user is specifically assigned this logonid, Clear evidence of intent & a cover up.

Investigating this case is relatively simple and can be completed well before the election. Just identify the IP or other network address, determine its origin, & interview those with access, starting with the most likely.

All Ohio needs is the resolve to investigate. That's why McCain needs people like Rudy G. & former Ohio Attorney General to press the issue.

45 posted on 10/26/2008 12:09:34 PM PDT by ethel rascel (No tagline needed!)
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To: DrHannibalLecter

bttt


46 posted on 10/26/2008 1:50:44 PM PDT by callisto (CONGRESS.EXE corrupted...Re-boot Washington DC (Y/N)?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I hope you don't mind...


47 posted on 10/26/2008 2:49:16 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: YES on PROP 4. *** MCCAIN-PALIN ***)
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To: newzjunkey

I stole it! I like it better. LOL!


48 posted on 10/26/2008 4:26:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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