Posted on 10/26/2008 2:07:09 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
Jim Nuzzo, a White House aide to the first President Bush, dismissed Mrs Palin's critics as "cocktail party conservatives" who "give aid and comfort to the enemy".
He told The Sunday Telegraph: "There's going to be a bloodbath. A lot of people are going to be excommunicated. David Brooks and David Frum and Peggy Noonan are dead people in the Republican Party. The litmus test will be: where did you stand on Palin?"
Mr Frum thinks that Mrs Palin's brand of cultural conservatism appeals only to a dwindling number of voters.
He said: "She emerges from this election as the probable frontrunner for the 2012 nomination. Her supporters vastly outnumber her critics. But it will be extremely difficult for her to win the presidency."
Mr Nuzzo, who believes this election is not a re-run of the 1980 Reagan revolution but of 1976, when an ageing Gerald Ford lost a close contest and then ceded the leadership of the Republican Party to Mr Reagan.
He said: "Win or lose, there is a ready made conservative candidate waiting in the wings. Sarah Palin is not the new Iain Duncan Smith, she is the new Ronald Reagan." On the accuracy of that judgment, perhaps, rests the future of the Republican Party.
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These snobs have run this country for 30 years.
It is time to tell them to F off, scram, vamoose, get lost, retire, and move over.
Add Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal into the mix and the GOP might even be attractive again in the 2012.
They got the headline wrong. It will mean civil war for the country.
I don’t think this is true. Will be just like 1980. I would bet on Newt Gingrich united the party, although I still believe John McCain will win this election.
elitist scum.
Well these fine upstanding conservatives, along with Barnes of FNC have sure shown their colors. I canceled my subscription to Barnes’ dumb magazine. The rest, never watched or read them anyway. Noonan has gone tippy in the brain of late.
Rush, Sean, Beck and Ingraham for me. Who needs more.
I love Sarah but it seems like that's just a leetle mite premature. I, for one, will welcome the demise of the current Republican leadership types.
Correct. What Peggy and kathleen P are advocating is REPLACING Reagan conservatism with a putrid hybrid of liberalism and “social” conservatism. In other words, veer left but keep close to being a moderate. Well, that didn’t work when Karl Rove & McCain appeased La Raza and the pro-illegal organizations, did it?
Yea. And our job here at Free Republic is to fight tooth and nail to keep these scum bag traitors out of the tent after the Mc/Palin win. These slimes will attempt to slither their way back in under the radar. A purging will be the Order of The Day ! Even against the wishes of the new president....One Term Johnny !
This “landslide” talk would be moot if McCain had done the CONSERVATIVE thing and dismiss the bailout for what it was—SOCIALISM....he’d be leading the polls now..instead he had to “get along” with the conventional liberal wisdom (oxymoron I know) and vote for the miserable failure of a bailout. This whole doomsday discussion would be on the Democrat candidate who faced a landslide against him if McCain had lead with conservatism.
Conservatism isn’t dead....it’s just not practiced by the people who really count...and the guy who counts the most is the presidential nominee.
Geez, Palin is a singularly attractive candidate, is plenty conservative, gives a great speech, but has some limitations as evidenced by the degree to which the McCain camp has kept her away from the media. She hasn't been used as a talking-head campaign spokeswoman on news shows, as would have been the other widely discussed VP possibilities. Making failure to acknowledge Palin's limitations as a litmus test seems somewhat counterproductive. Brooks, Noonan and other suspect conservative, have betrayed their Obamaphilia in other ways besides their skepticism over Palin.
Sadly, I suspect any CIVIL WAR will extend well beyond the party.
If Obama loses, it will probably come down immediately.
If he wins, it will just take a bit longer to develop.
Pray for America — the ORIGINAL IDEA!!!!!
Yea. And our job here at Free Republic is to fight tooth and nail to keep these scum bag traitors out of the tent after the Mc/Palin win. These slimes will attempt to slither their way back in under the radar. A purging will be the Order of The Day ! Even against the wishes of the new president....One Term Johnny !
Good grief. Don't the English even speak their own language?
These so called party conservatives are destroying the republican party. I am sick and tired of these spineless wimps who refuse to stand firm on principle and crumble at the slightest hint of criticism.
We no longer trust these people. They are unprincipaled snobs that are counter productive to the American cause.
We the people have no use for them.
Peggy Noonan wrote the “Thousand Points of Light” slogan. Now we can rephrase it to include her: “999 Points of Light and One Point of RINO”
Those pernicious Vichy Republicans, those weak wristed, wobbly Vichy’s who long only to bow down to Liberals are disgusting to real Americans.
I bet each one has a interview with the Obamao if..and I said if, he wins.
peggy noonan and her brethren are useful idiots for obama.
Who?
Even though Palin lacks some polish, which she is picking up and improving daily, she is the conservative standard-bearer in this election. Anyone who mocks her, runs from supporting her, or country-club weasels looking down their nose at her, has taken out official RINO cards. Now we know who they are. More will expose themselves this week. RINO’s taking flight and the rest of us remain at the barricades to inherit the party.
Or they and others of their "centrist" mindset will take over the party and supervise its demise. The centrists move in, and kill off the party that they aimed to control.
Bill Kristol is another buffoon who needs to be in the unemployment line.
Noonan and the rest are disgusting, and should be thrown out.
Hey, there, Mr. Frum.
The Vichy Republican list:
Colin Powell..check
Scott Mclelan..check
William Weld...check
Doug Kmeic...cehck
Freid...check.
David Frum...check
David Brooks..check
Chris Buckley...check
Adelman..check..
George Will...check
Peggy Noonan...check
Feel free to add to the Vichy Republican list, one and all, bring the noise, this stuff is unacceptable.
Sarah is threatening to the establishment.
Barely noticeable before she started trashing Sarah!
Excellent. I hope you’ll be the keeper of the list...
Add Hagel
Noo...a thousand times “No” Bill Krystol, for all of his flaws, has stood behind Governor Palin, for my disagreements with the man, he has never attacked Sarah Palin.
Make no mistake, I watch these things like a hawk that is starving, and Bill Krystol is not the problem...at all.
Remember, McCain IS from the "RINO" side of the party. If he does lose it will be a repudiation of THIS side of the party. It will not be Sarah Palin's fault, it will not be George Bush's fault, it will not be conservatives fault. It will be the fault of the "RINO" wing of the party that told us we could only win by going moderate this election cycle.
I honestly believe that McCain would be up 10% in the polls if he was a Ronald Reagan conservative who stood by free-market principals instead of twisting with the political winds. He may still win, I hope he does, but he is NOT a Reagan conservative.
And these RINO idiots expect us to swallow whatever moderate POS they choose for us. Maybe McCain wasn't "moderate" enough, maybe they will give us Lincoln Chafee in 2012, or maybe after 4 years of earning their Obama kneepads they will endorse Obama as the republican nominee as well as the democrat, just like in the old Soviet Union.
After all, the RINO wing DOES have such an impressive record of electoral success...
1976 Ford (RINO) - Loses
1980 Reagan (conservative) - Wins
1984 Reagan (conservative) - Wins
1988 Bush I (ran as conservative Reagan heir) - WIN
1992 Bush I (governed as a RINO) - Loses
1996 Dole (RINO) - Loses
2000 Bush II (conservative) WIN
2004 Bush II (conservative) WIN
2008 McCain (RINO) - ???
According to my calculations the RINO's are batting 0 and 3 and may well be 0 and 4 after November 4. While Conservatives are batting 5 and 0. And the RINO's want us to follow them ?!? /rant off
I think there’s going to be a blood bath either way. If McCain wins, blacks have been encouraged to riot by jerks like Al Sharpton. I think if he wins they’re still going to riot. That’s the time when they can loot to their hearts desire, and they’re not going to miss out on that ‘opportunity.’
I am one of Sarah’s Soldiers. Count me in.
I no longer read anything produced by effete RINOs.
There is also going to be a worsening of the war on the MSM/DBM. For this, we need to recruit many more fighters.
We need to rebuild the conservative party based on the principles embodied in the words and deeds of RR. Rush and Mark Levin are spearheading this movement. I believe we would benefit by reading Burke, Kirk, Heritage Foundation, and AEI. It would be great for National Review to create a CD of every one of their issues that are indexed to issues......i.e., education, foreign policy, health care, etc. etc.
What a great description !
Lets pass it on.....VICHY REPUBLICAN
Hagel is packing it in, if he were not, he would be on the Vichy Republican list.
Conservatives have long memories and long knives, most don’t remember...we do...
Of course, you can nominate Chuck Hagel, as long as you have solid evidence against him either saying he will vote Obamao, or simply trashing Gov Palin in a majority hit piece...
Agreed.....give Billy Boy a pardon...for now...but keep your eye on him!
I think McCain is waffling on his membership in the Washington establishment. He does seem willing to rattle his campaign as needed to move ahead, but in between shaking them up, I have the impression that he delegates most of the tenor.
IOW, I don't think McCain is furious at the status quo in his campaign. If he was, he'd rattle them up. There is no harm in doing so at this point in time. And too, since he is waffling on in/out of the Washington establishment, he may be wary of Palin as a potential thorn to some of his policy objectives -- I'm thinking particularly of immigration, mineral exploitation, environmental issues, and "shrinking" of government. At this point, I'm pretty sure he sees her as a strong ally -- but he may have some small concerns in the background.
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