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If the Constitution is "Fatally Flawed" as Obama claims, how can he swear to defend it under oath?
-- | jrooney

Posted on 10/27/2008 8:10:30 AM PDT by jrooney

If the Constitution is "Fatally Flawed" as Obama claims, how can Obama Swear to Defend it under oath? He can not truthfully. Someone needs to ask Obama this question.


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Obama has painted hismelf into a corner. He can not swear under oath to defend our Constitution that he claims is "fatally flawed". If he does, he is lying under oath then.
1 posted on 10/27/2008 8:10:32 AM PDT by jrooney
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To: jrooney

silly...he’ll defend the parts that he thinks aren’t flawed until he can rewrite it.


2 posted on 10/27/2008 8:11:58 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: jrooney

Is there an audio transcript of 0 saying this?


3 posted on 10/27/2008 8:12:24 AM PDT by frogjerk (Palin's record is on the record, while whole years of Obama's life are engulfed in fog - T. Sowell)
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To: jrooney

You just brought up the issue that Rush will lead with, IMO.


4 posted on 10/27/2008 8:12:28 AM PDT by randita
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To: jrooney

As a non-citizen, I think he may not be required to go through this part of the ritual.


5 posted on 10/27/2008 8:12:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: nuconvert

It’s kind of like Pledging allegiance to the America that could be


6 posted on 10/27/2008 8:12:34 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: jrooney
He cannot. Actually, he has OTHER plan for our founding document.
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7 posted on 10/27/2008 8:13:11 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: jrooney

It’ll be interesting to see if he uses a Bible or the Koran to swear the oath.


8 posted on 10/27/2008 8:13:11 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: jrooney
How about the military - Obey the Constitution vs President?

The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:

“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

9 posted on 10/27/2008 8:13:31 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: jrooney

Great post!


10 posted on 10/27/2008 8:13:32 AM PDT by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: jrooney

Since when has the left become concerned about swearing falsely under oath! If Obama had any honor he wouldn’t BE a leftist. Nor would anyone else.


11 posted on 10/27/2008 8:14:09 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: jrooney
The Roadblock to Change
12 posted on 10/27/2008 8:14:28 AM PDT by feedback doctor (The first female president will be a Conservative Republican)
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To: jrooney

He won’t even prove he’s constitutionally elgible to hold office, how can he uphold something he has no respect for?


13 posted on 10/27/2008 8:14:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: frogjerk

“Is there an audio transcript of 0 saying this?”

Yes, and you can find it and more on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116315/posts


14 posted on 10/27/2008 8:14:48 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: jrooney
how can Obama Swear to Defend it under oath?

When was the last time Obama said something that reflected his true views?

15 posted on 10/27/2008 8:15:08 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: jrooney

The same reason he refuses to produce a birth certificate. He’s snubbing his nose at the constitution.

CHANGE=obama’s goal with the constitution


16 posted on 10/27/2008 8:15:45 AM PDT by Doug TX
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To: jrooney

Obama says the Constitution is the “flaw that exists to this day”.


17 posted on 10/27/2008 8:16:12 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: jrooney

The idiot independents who are still vacillating between the Hero and the zer0 need to pay close attention to this.


18 posted on 10/27/2008 8:16:49 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: jrooney

The usual way. He doesn’t mean what he says.


19 posted on 10/27/2008 8:18:44 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Obama is a neo-Marxist)
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To: nuconvert

Not funny. With a super majority I think he can actually do that if he wants to


20 posted on 10/27/2008 8:19:17 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: libh8er

Why isn’t this in a campaign ad? Or, is it but I don’t get to see it because I am in Tennessee a safe Red State?


21 posted on 10/27/2008 8:19:30 AM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: jrooney

The usual way. He doesn’t mean what he says.


22 posted on 10/27/2008 8:20:06 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Obama is a neo-Marxist)
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To: jrooney

If the Constitution is “Fatally Flawed” as Obama claims, how can Obama Swear to Defend it under oath? .
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Is that a question ?
Are you kidding me ?
If you disagree you’re racist.


23 posted on 10/27/2008 8:20:51 AM PDT by IrishMike (Gov Sarah Palin - Gun control is hitting what you shoot at)
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To: jrooney

The same way George W. Bush can swear to defend a Constitution that supposedly allows abortion. The same way I, an attorney, can swear to defend laws that I disagree with ... and would have voted against if I had been in the legislature.

One does not have to entirely agree with something in order to defend it vigorously.

H


24 posted on 10/27/2008 8:21:09 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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To: Def Conservative

BTTT!


25 posted on 10/27/2008 8:21:27 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: nuconvert

That is exactly right. And it will be rewritten with the full connivance of all three branches of the government and without recourse to the processes put forth in the document itself for making such changes. Or, to put it another way, the Constitution is whatever the governing majority says it is once they have control of all three branches. And once this occurs there is a good probability that the laws will be modified to stack the deck in such a way that the political opposition will never again attain even an effective minority status let alone a majority. Then the question becomes: What can be done to right the situation?


26 posted on 10/27/2008 8:21:28 AM PDT by scory
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To: frogjerk
Why yes there is. I can't imagine how it wasn't scrubbed.

"But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution "

27 posted on 10/27/2008 8:21:35 AM PDT by illinifan (and yes, I am disgusted by my alma mater)
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To: jrooney
If the Constitution is "Fatally Flawed" as Obama claims, how can Obama Swear to Defend it under oath? He can not truthfully.

You're being logical again. I warned you about that.

28 posted on 10/27/2008 8:21:58 AM PDT by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: mlocher
When was the last time Obama said something that reflected his true views?

The left, in general, cannot ever be truthful about their own true views, because they would be abhorrent to the majority of people, and they know it.

This is one of the big reasons they hate Palin - she is able to be REAL, AUTHENTIC, AND GENUINE because her true views are GOOD views.

29 posted on 10/27/2008 8:23:27 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: jrooney

Makes sense. With all the chicanery heading into this election, and the super majority awaiting a 0 presidency (brr), it is not too much of a stretch to see a major rewrite in the offing. Afterall, it is a “living document” (brr) right? Back that up with judicial appointments and the directive pen...

“Be a bearcat”
Very ruefully


30 posted on 10/27/2008 8:24:56 AM PDT by petro45acp (NO good endeavor survives an excess of "adult supervision" (read bureaucracy)!)
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To: Hemorrhage
One does not have to entirely agree with something in order to defend it vigorously.

Which fails to address the question which most be in the voter's mind, i.e., can he be trusted to defend that which he claims is indefensible?

31 posted on 10/27/2008 8:25:22 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad

most = must


32 posted on 10/27/2008 8:26:39 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: MrB

Outstanding analysis!


33 posted on 10/27/2008 8:27:07 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: jrooney

This is only a problem for someone with a sense of integrity and of shame. Obama has no problem taking the Alinsky-ist approach to saying what he needs to and then doing what he wants to. “Rev” Wright has laready told us Obama would do this.


34 posted on 10/27/2008 8:27:28 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: Paine in the Neck

laready = already


35 posted on 10/27/2008 8:28:06 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: frogjerk

“The constitution reflected a enormous blind spot in this culture that carries on until this day and the framers had that same blind spot.
I dont think the two views are contradictory. To say that it was a remarkable political document that paved the way for where we are now and to say that it also reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day.”
[http://conservativeutsa.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/obama-the-constitution-reflects-the-fundamental-flaw-in-this-country/]


36 posted on 10/27/2008 8:29:06 AM PDT by igoramus08 (Under Obama 100% of Americans will have a Tax Increase when the Bush Tax cuts expire in 2011)
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Obama will defend the Constitution as it is written in ‘his own mind’ or as it should be written ‘in his own mind’.

Off topic: I know I heard Obama say that the issue of Reparations should be discussed and debated. He in effect is backing those that seek Reparations.

McCain and his campaign cannot be seen attacking Obama on his support for Reparations because it would appear racially divisive.

Who then can call Obama on it?


37 posted on 10/27/2008 8:30:37 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: jrooney
He's already lied under oath...
The Senate Oath of Office:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

38 posted on 10/27/2008 8:31:44 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (Not Your Ordinary Crustacean.)
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..."just words, just speeches..."

Barry is excused from charges of intellectual hypocrisy because he is an ethical dualist: He can hold two or more mutually exclusive positions simultaneously without any sense of internal conflict or contradiction.
This is a mind trick that only non-Westerners, and specifically those indoctrinated in the Muslim faith, can pull off without making themselves laugh or throw up.
It's how one can scream "God is great", and fully believe it, while detonating one's self in the middle of a kindergarten.

It is how he will be able to swear to uphold the Constitution while simultaneously believing it is flawed and evil.
It is how he will be able to be President of the USA while believing that the society and culture of the USA is the source of all evil in the world.
And he won't bat an eyelash while doing so.
Think of it as Multiple Personality Disorder, with each personality holding a different set of beliefs, but all personalities treating the host as a time-share.

And this is the best the Democrat Party could come up with:
A Marxist, lying hypnotist suffering from Islam-induced MPD who isn't even an American citizen. You gotta wonder who didn't make their first cut...
39 posted on 10/27/2008 8:33:10 AM PDT by Infidel Puppy
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If the Constitution is "Fatally Flawed" as Obama claims, how can Obama Swear to Defend it under oath?

It is really quite simple.

He supports those parts of the constitution that provides for a right to an abortion, a right to a living wage, a right to healthcare. All those rights that aren't actually written down.

He doesn't support those things that are actually in the constitution, like the right to bear arms, states rights and limits on government.

It took me a while to figure it out, but I finally got it.

Hope this helps!

40 posted on 10/27/2008 8:34:10 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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Not funny. With a super majority I think he can actually do that if he wants to

States have to ratify. Not happenin'

41 posted on 10/27/2008 8:34:56 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: USCG SimTech

All 50?


42 posted on 10/27/2008 8:36:08 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: jrooney
““I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States:”

The start of the real oath above;
And below are the changes Obama will add if elected:

“At least the parts I agree with. Any parts that serve to uphold the entrenched, racist ruling class I disavow and will change”

43 posted on 10/27/2008 8:40:41 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Flush Obama/Biden in 2008!!!!)
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To: jrooney

Dear America. One of these two items is fatally flawed.

It's your call.


44 posted on 10/27/2008 8:41:22 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: jrooney

Did he really say “fatally”?


45 posted on 10/27/2008 8:44:10 AM PDT by Beelzebubba (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: wiseprince

I wasn’t joking about rewriting the Constitution.
If you listen to that audio, that’s exactly what it sounds like to me. And he has the lawyer & english professor friends to help him do it.


46 posted on 10/27/2008 8:51:18 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: Hemorrhage
The same way George W. Bush can swear to defend a Constitution that supposedly allows abortion. The same way I, an attorney, can swear to defend laws that I disagree with ... and would have voted against if I had been in the legislature. One does not have to entirely agree with something in order to defend it vigorously.

And "The One" in all probability doesn't mean what he says. It's all about "change by any means necessary". It's okay to lie to get what you want if you're a socialist. There is a huge difference between an attorney swearing to defend the law and intending to do so and what Obama will do if he wins.

47 posted on 10/27/2008 8:53:40 AM PDT by MathDoc (I'm Joe the Plumber's friend, and I vote)
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To: jrooney

The fact is that Obama is fatally flawed, not the constitution. Obama is defective. He has all the signs of a cerebral narcissist. I have an adopted nephew that has the same mental disorder. There is no cure. You can be sure that Obama will seek to change, or nullify the constitution, and the bill of rights. He has already set us up for it.


48 posted on 10/27/2008 8:55:26 AM PDT by capn dino ("I am the king of the world" B. Obama shouted to the crowd while boarding his plane)
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To: johniegrad

>> Which fails to address the question which most be in the voter’s mind, i.e., can he be trusted to defend that which he claims is indefensible?

Has he claimed the Constitution is indefensible?

H


49 posted on 10/27/2008 8:57:08 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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To: jrooney
An oath to serve, like an oath of allegiance is, in the minds of the ilk of Obama, a polite ritual.

Just meaningless noise, akin to saying "please" when giving an order to a subordinate or promising "til death do us part" when participating in a marriage ceremony.

50 posted on 10/27/2008 8:57:08 AM PDT by Clive
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