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Transsexual gene link identified
BBC ^ | 26 October 2008 | Staff

Posted on 10/27/2008 10:50:54 AM PDT by managusta

Australian researchers have identified a significant link between a gene involved in testosterone action and male-to-female transsexualism.

DNA analysis from 112 male-to-female transsexual volunteers showed they were more likely to have a longer version of the androgen receptor gene.

The genetic difference may cause weaker testosterone signals, the team reported in Biological Psychiatry.

However, other genes are also likely to play a part, they stressed.

Increasingly, biological factors are being implicated in gender identity.

There is a social stigma that transsexualism is simply a lifestyle choice, however our findings support a biological basis of how gender identity develops Professor Vincent Harley, researcher

One study has shown that certain brain structures in male-to-female transsexual people are more "female like".

In the latest study, researchers looked for potential differences in three genes known to be involved in sex development - coding for the androgen receptor, the oestrogen receptor and an enzyme which converts testosterone to oestrogen.

Comparison of the DNA from the male to female transsexual participants with 258 controls showed a significant link with a long version of the androgen receptor gene and transsexualism.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: eugenics; gay; genetics; homosexualagenda; medicine; sexpositiveagenda; transexual; transgenderpolitics
Within twenty years parents will be given a choice, not only on fetal health improvement by genetic insertion or removal.

They will also be offered a choice in sexual orientation, ask any parent of gay progeny how much would they pay to establish their brood's physical gender.

1 posted on 10/27/2008 10:50:55 AM PDT by managusta
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To: managusta

Good, we’ve shown it is a disease. Now let’s cure it!


2 posted on 10/27/2008 10:52:04 AM PDT by Soliton (Faith is an act of love; Love is an act of faith)
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To: Soliton

Beat me to it. It’s not a normal lifestyle. It’s a defect.


3 posted on 10/27/2008 10:53:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: managusta
androgen receptor ?

Should never be used in a sentence about homosexuals.

4 posted on 10/27/2008 10:59:24 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: managusta

pray for a cure to this sad condition...


5 posted on 10/27/2008 11:00:10 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: managusta

Sure they have, ROFLOL


6 posted on 10/27/2008 11:00:14 AM PDT by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: managusta

Even if this is true of hermaphroditic transexuals (intergender at birth), what makes a man who declares that he loves men and not women go pair up with a man who wants to be a woman and even gets breasts added to his body (or even go “all the way” in cosmetic surgery below the waist as well)?


7 posted on 10/27/2008 11:03:48 AM PDT by weegee (Barack Hussein Obama is a SOCIALIST.)
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To: managusta

Transsexualism and homosexuality are not the same thing.


8 posted on 10/27/2008 11:04:33 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Soliton

Gays have been saying this is biological for a long time now, I’ve often wondered what would they do when the gene was identified and people are ready to get rid of it.


9 posted on 10/27/2008 11:11:14 AM PDT by teacherbarbie (I would go into politics, but I like to keep my youthful looks.)
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To: teacherbarbie
Gays have been saying this is biological for a long time now, I’ve often wondered what would they do when the gene was identified and people are ready to get rid of it.

It must be a mutation caused by proximity to iron bars.

10 posted on 10/27/2008 11:12:57 AM PDT by Soliton (Faith is an act of love; Love is an act of faith)
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To: r9etb

I’m sure this research links both, there are gay men who like to dress up from time to time as a woman(transsexual).


11 posted on 10/27/2008 11:14:54 AM PDT by teacherbarbie (I would go into politics, but I like to keep my youthful looks.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Beat me to it. It’s not a normal lifestyle. It’s a defect.

It must make them criminals too, since so many suddenly become gay in prison.

12 posted on 10/27/2008 11:15:34 AM PDT by Soliton (Faith is an act of love; Love is an act of faith)
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To: teacherbarbie

The Sex Positive Agenda has pushed for an end to all moral judgements over sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s).

The science of such pairings is not a factor. Even the Weather Underground engaged in polyamorous bi-sexual relationships. Ayers said he sought to end the institution of marriage (and in 2001 was asked about it as he’d married a fellow member of the Underground).


13 posted on 10/27/2008 11:15:41 AM PDT by weegee (Barack Hussein Obama is a SOCIALIST.)
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To: teacherbarbie

We are born naked. There is no cross-dressing gene.

All clothing is a result of culture and societal conditioning.


14 posted on 10/27/2008 11:16:33 AM PDT by weegee (Barack Hussein Obama is a SOCIALIST.)
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To: weegee
All clothing is a result of culture and societal conditioning.

True. I was just thinking about how Romans used to consider anyone who wore pants (rather than a civilized kilt or long tunic) to be barbarians.

But, crossdressers are drawn to the clothing that is culturally associated with the opposite sex. It's not really the clothing that attracts them, per se, but the opportunity to emulate the opposite sex.

Of course, these days there are only a few articles of clothing in our society that are considered exclusive to one sex.

15 posted on 10/27/2008 11:20:38 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Soliton

How about we just abort all the babies that show this defect?

That’s what we do with those that are suspected of having Down’s.

After all, it’s no different than killing any other animal, right?


16 posted on 10/27/2008 11:22:31 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: absolootezer0

hey, now you can get that thing fixed.... ;^P


17 posted on 10/27/2008 11:25:24 AM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: MrB
How about we just abort all the babies that show this defect?

New Orleans survived Katrina, I don't think they can make it without drag queens.

18 posted on 10/27/2008 11:27:14 AM PDT by Soliton (Faith is an act of love; Love is an act of faith)
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To: managusta
The genetic difference may cause weaker testosterone signals

Note the word may, proving this is a premise, not actual proof.

But, if lack of testosterone is the problem, increasing testosterone should be a solution to the problem.

19 posted on 10/27/2008 11:30:11 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: MrB

Ask the liberals.


20 posted on 10/27/2008 11:33:39 AM PDT by teacherbarbie (I would go into politics, but I like to keep my youthful looks.)
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To: envisio

looks like you’ll need you fixed pretty quick.
what with the AB buyout, you’ll be drinking euro weenie metro beer too :)


21 posted on 10/27/2008 11:34:13 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The first thought that popped into my mind was—is this junk science or legitimate science? Were the scientists trying to do some legitimate research or validate an opinion? If legitimate science I say go for it. The problem is that too much junk science is out there. I know a few trannies and they swear that they have always felt they should have been born the opposite gender. Now I think one should not mistake transsexuals for homosexuals even though they usually graze together. Homosexuals are content with their given gender, they’re just sexually attracted to the same. It does get a little weird though when you have a bunch of gay guys that adore going around in drag and acting like a bunch of queens-—so I could see where one could say transsexual, homosexuals what the hecks the difference?
Some one made the comment about genetic finagling. I have said for awhile that if some hard core scientific evidence comes to the fore concerning sexuality (is there a gay gene?) gays better get on the pro-life bus pretty quick because the abortion bus will be all ready to roll all over you.


22 posted on 10/27/2008 11:36:03 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (JOE THE PLUMBER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: managusta

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23 posted on 10/27/2008 11:39:36 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: teacherbarbie

One who gets his jollies over dressing up like a woman is TRANSvestitism...known as dressing in drag. Most of these folks still want to keep the apparatus they were born with—no nip and tuck.


24 posted on 10/27/2008 11:40:22 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (JOE THE PLUMBER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: managusta

DID THEY FIND A GENETIC DEFECT FOR THE METROSEXUAL?


25 posted on 10/27/2008 11:41:33 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (JOE THE PLUMBER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: MrB

It’s a quality of life issue. < /s >


26 posted on 10/27/2008 11:49:31 AM PDT by weegee (Barack Hussein Obama is a SOCIALIST.)
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To: Citizen Blade
Odd how if you dress as a member of another racial group, you can freely be disparaged in this society.


27 posted on 10/27/2008 11:51:46 AM PDT by weegee (Barack Hussein Obama is a SOCIALIST.)
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To: brooklyn dave
DID THEY FIND A GENETIC DEFECT FOR THE METROSEXUAL?

Edwards is busy looking for it this minute.

28 posted on 10/27/2008 11:53:11 AM PDT by weegee (Barack Hussein Obama is a SOCIALIST.)
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To: weegee
Odd how if you dress as a member of another racial group, you can freely be disparaged in this society.

I think you're free to disparage that guy because he qualifies as a dumbass.

29 posted on 10/27/2008 11:53:51 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Damage may be done before birth. Fundamental differences between male and Femlae Brains occur in utero due to hormonal influences.

It’s probably worth trying but may only have partial success and with those who are perhaps less Femm than others.


30 posted on 10/27/2008 11:55:03 AM PDT by The_Repugnant_Conservative
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To: Soliton
Men do not turn gay in prison. But they feel they are "desperate" for sex encounters and they "take what they can get." Some get kind of used to it. These men will be nearly exclusively hetero when out of prison.

Many people who are hetero can be "groomed" to be homosexual on occasion. People who are abused when young often can "go either way." See Obama, Barack.

31 posted on 10/27/2008 11:59:45 AM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: managusta

So there is a genetic connection, a gene not working as designed. I say this in the most well meaning way, but it will be interesting to see how the transgendered community runs with it, I wonder how many will want to seek a ‘cure’ for this genetic failure. I.e., will there be backlash for any who seek a remedy for the weakened testosterone signals? And will the gay community see this as a positive or negative, because we already see a backlash among those who wish to change orientation to straight.


32 posted on 10/27/2008 12:09:46 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Citizen Blade

There are dumbasses of every color. But somehow we are told that letting your drawers droop in public is a cultural fashion trend that must be respected.


33 posted on 10/27/2008 12:10:47 PM PDT by weegee (Barack Hussein Obama is a SOCIALIST.)
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To: weegee
But somehow we are told that letting your drawers droop in public is a cultural fashion trend that must be respected.

Who told you that?

34 posted on 10/27/2008 12:20:40 PM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: weegee

That is hailarious!!!


35 posted on 10/27/2008 1:03:02 PM PDT by brooklyn dave (JOE THE PLUMBER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: brooklyn dave

hilarious-—finger slipped as I was putting on my man make-up.


36 posted on 10/27/2008 1:04:08 PM PDT by brooklyn dave (JOE THE PLUMBER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: brooklyn dave

manscara? guyliner?


37 posted on 10/27/2008 2:17:50 PM PDT by weegee (Barack Hussein Obama is a SOCIALIST.)
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To: All

OK that is great news I guess - but is there any early genetic indicator of liberalism?


38 posted on 10/27/2008 2:27:10 PM PDT by imintrouble
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To: managusta

If genes determined all our behavior, we would be wild animals. Doesn’t anyone believe in a conscience any more? That alone is what sets us apart from beasts. Why do the alternative lifestyle crowd keep repeating these sick lies?


39 posted on 10/27/2008 2:34:49 PM PDT by DestinyEagle
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To: managusta

This sounds exactly like those studies that were done years ago (and sometimes still are) trying to argue that homosexuality was genetic.

First of all, why is this always phrased as either “genetic” or “choice”? It could be psychological.

I recently read an article (in NARTH’s magazine) that stated that often transgendered people are not satisfied even after sex-change operations because ulimately the issue is psychological, not biological.

You have to ask why these various studies on sexuality are always focused exclusively on biological factors and not psychological factors. To some degree, they are “fishing expeditions,” trying to find a specific result.

This study would need to be replicated with a larger group of people a number of times to be authentic. And while this genetic factor may be contributing, it doesn’t make it determinative.


40 posted on 10/27/2008 8:01:31 PM PDT by joseph2 (I'm so tired of the politicization of sexual issues!)
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