Skip to comments.Biden Compares Obama to Lincoln, Jefferson -- Not Marx
Posted on 10/27/2008 1:11:06 PM PDT by Fred
Joe Biden on Monday compared Barack Obama to Thomas Jefferson, John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt, and he said a less savory comparison to Karl Marx is completely off the mark.
Biden, whose comments on Marx referenced an uncomfortable interview with a Florida anchorwoman last week, stressed that his Obama is a genuine force for change. As proof, Democratic vice presidential candidate pointed to the kind of attacks that have historically been directed at new leaders with new ideas.
"The defenders of the status quo have always tried to tear down those who would change our nation for the better," Biden said. "They said Thomas Jefferson wasn't ... a real Christian. That was the essence of the campaign against him. Well, does that sound familiar?" he said.
"Ladies and gentlemen, they said Abraham Lincoln ... wanted to take away individual rights. Ladies and gentlemen, they said Franklin Roosevelt would destroy the American system of life. Sound familiar? And ladies and gentlemen, they said that John F. Kennedy was, quote, 'a dangerous choice in difficult times.' ... Sound familiar?"
The Delaware senator spoke to a crowd in Greenville, N.C., as the Democratic ticket begins to make its closing argument in the presidential race.
Biden said the attacks are "built on lies which are the last resort of those who have nothing new to offer. And that's where we find ourselves."
Biden attempted to shore up his point by mentioning the interview he gave with Orlando-based WFTV on Thursday. Anchorwoman Barbara West quoted Marx and asked Biden how Obama's claim that he wants to "spread the wealth" wasn't Marxist.
Biden asked West if she was joking. Afterward, the Obama campaign cut off interviews with the station, canceling an appearance by Biden's wife, Jill.
On Monday Biden took another shot at
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I don’t know who to compare Joe the Gaffer to.
The Marx Brothers. Joe can be Chico. Every time he gets a question he can’t answer just blow the horn.
Jefferson? The slave-owning, rich libertarian-agrarian?
He is the Chevy Chase of politics!
Joe falls down verbally so much and it just gets funnier and funnier.....
Hmmm, ain’t he a rep out of Illionois that kept all his funny money in the the refridgerator???
“They said Thomas Jefferson wasn’t ... a real Christian”
Well, he wasn’t, was he?
Yeah, ain’t it funny how the labels miraculously switch with ease?
Possibly, Barack the Wealth Spreader hopes to own us after we are done with re-education boot camp?
"What constitutes the bulwark of our own liberty and independence? ... Our reliance is in the love of liberty which God has planted in us. Our defense is in the spirit which prized liberty as the heritage of all men, in all lands everywhere. Destroy this spirit and you have planted the seeds of despotism at your own doors."
"Familiarize yourselves with the chains of bondage and you prepare your own limbs to wear them. Accustomed to trample on the rights of others, you have lost the genius of your own independence and become the fit subjects of the first cunning tyrant who rises among you."
Once again Lincoln proves prescient. Please share with your friends.
Lenin or Trotsky maybe, but not Marx.
It’s true that he’s often unintentionally funny, and as a result, one tends to discount him. However, we shouldn’t forget that Biden himself is extremely left wing - he has the third most leftwing voting record in the Senate, IIRC.
He also, like his master, Obama, has a seriously spiteful and vindictive side. One of the reasons Obama made his big speech today and semi-retired from the campaign trail is that he doesn’t want to get caught in any last-minute moments where the mask slips and the real Red Barry’s fangs show through. That was what happened with Biden, and I bet they’ll pull him off all interviews now that this has become public.
It’s not because Barry is somewhat black, it’s because he’s more than a little Red.
“Jefferson was a Deist.”
Which, of course, precludes him from being a Christian.
And I compare Joe Biden to Chico Marx, Napoleon Dynamite, and Francis the Talking Ass.
ROFL. My, the presumptuous and historical ignorance of Biden knows no bounds.
Further, a proper historical comparison would be Wilson or Carter. Wilson pursued a fascistic course, replete with his own brownshirts and a disgust for the antiquated Constitution, which limited the power of the government to ‘help’ the people. He thought the presidency’s power was excessively circumscribed by the Constitution. America’s entry into WWI allowed for him to push through much of his agenda for a time.
Carter would be an appropriate touchstone as well. Obama, if elected, will also have an unpopular Republican administration to thank for his election. Obama’s agenda is much like Carter’s in the context of the post-60s, liberal Democrat peacenik movement which views America as part of the problem, as opposed to older, pre-60s and pro-American liberals such as Truman.
There’s no comparison to Jefferson whatsoever. Obama’s aims are downright tyrannical. I think Jefferson would be aghast at the party which supposedly carries on his legacy.
Lincoln? Well, other than both starting their political careers in Illinois, I fail to see the similarity. Is Biden telling us that Obama is going to suspend habeus corpus in his first year in office (maybe that’s the surprise which awaits us)?
FDR? He brought his own fascist movement to the presidency, one which impressed Mussolini and Hitler. His policies, per many economists, are regarded as having extended the Great Depression far longer than it would have lasted.
Oddly enough, 3 of the 4 presidents he named helped to take this nation into major wars.
If Obama gets elected, he will not be tested like Lincoln - no matter what happens. All he is is someone with three years of experience in the Senate that did absolutely nothing!
Will be an interesting last few days, until the election, if the Dem Candidates, their wives, etc. go into hiding, such as they seem to be doing.
Thomas Jefferson wasn’t a Christian, but he was rabidly in favor of small government and individual liberty.
FDR bankrupted the country and changed our way of life and we’re still living with the consequences of his recklessness.
JFK was a dangerous choice in difficult times. His inexperience sparked off an international crisis and he provided zero leadership to help resolve the growing Vietnam war. But dying at an untimely age has a tendency to wipe out all the bad memories.
Yes, and with this supposed “assassination attempt,” conveniently coming right after what he announced would be his big speech, nobody’s even going to dare to question it.
George Jefferson, I can believe.
“Biden Compares Obama to Lincoln, Jefferson”
George Lincoln Rockwell and George Jefferson. By George.
Wait til obama’s in office and he throws biden under the bus. I’ve never seen biden’s eyes look so wild as they do of late. He seems to be under immense pressure ... but when one gets in bed with the devil what do you expect.
Joe maybe you can enter a witness protect plan and save yourself.
Aren't those Marxist code words for...well, anyone that isn’t a Marxist?
“”The defenders of the status quo have always tried to tear down those who would change our nation for the better,” Biden said.”
It looks like the change is to dump the Constitution.
These people are WAY scary.
Interesting the Biden steers very clear of comparing Obama to the Communist-embracing, Democrat Socialist icon Roosevelt or the Diddler in Chief Clinton. Both are often held up as solid role-models by the Dems.