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Alaskan Legislator Tells Maddow: 'What Good Does It Do' to Fire a 'Dangerous' Cop?
Newsbusters ^ | Jack Coleman

Posted on 10/27/2008 10:34:13 PM PDT by DeLaine

An unintentionally hilarious assertion was made by Alaska State Senator Hollis French on Rachel Maddow's MSNBC cable show Friday night.

Maddow and French were discussing the so-called Troopergate scandal and Gov. Sarah Palin's alleged grudge in firing former Alaska public safety commissioner Walt Monegan for not reopening an investigation of a state trooper who went through a nasty divorce with Palin's sister.

Hollis, a Democrat who led the state legislature's investigation into Palin's actions in firing Monegan last July, cited "severe logical fallacies" in claims made by Palin and her husband Todd, including the Palins' request for reduced security despite their assertions that Wooten was a rogue cop.

Then came the coup de grace from French: Stop and think about, what good does it do to fire a trooper if you really think he's dangerous?

Yes -- the man actually uttered those words ... loud enough to hear ... on national television. The mind reels when confronted with such a worldview. Could be worse, however. If French were wearing a badge, for example.

The well-intentioned Alaskan legislator elaborated on his odd, troubling assertion, asking of anyone taking such a supposedly outlandish action as terminating the employment of a "dangerous" police officer: Do you think he's going to leave his job and suddenly be docile and happy about life because he's just been fired? It's likely to make him more dangerous. Heaven forbid that a dangerous state trooper is ever fired. This sort of thing might convey to those employed on the public dime that they are accountable for their actions.

In fairness to French, he did suggest what he thought Palin should have done when it came to dealing with Wooten.

Why didn't the governor do something about the policy she objected to, which is the trooper disciplinary policy? Why not come to the legislature and say, hey, I've got an idea to make the state of Alaska a better place and to do trooper disciplinary procedures in a better way? Let's change the law, let's make a policy change that protects everyone.

O-kay, say that Palin or another Alaskan politician did exactly what French is suggesting. Many moons and legislative sessions later, a shiny new "trooper disciplinary procedure" is unveiled, one that leads to ... firing of dangerous state troopers. Uh, wouldn't this just make them more dangerous?

Such are the joys of watching Maddow that she provided her own gem of an assertion almost as priceless as those from French.

"You know it's funny," Maddow said. "Every time we have somebody on from Alaska, they are like the most articulate, clear thinking, clear-speaking person we've yet spoken to. It's a very impressive group up there in Alaska."

Impressive, indeed. Aside from Democratic legislators leading allegedly non-partisan investigations of political opponents.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: codeofsilence; cultureofcorruption; donutwatch; hollisfrench; leo; maddow; palin; palinrecord; police; rachelmaddow; wooten
I hope to God I did this right. I did a search. Can I pull a "Libbie" (liberal) if this has been posted already?? "IT'S NOT MY FAULT!!" I don't usually post. I just read.
1 posted on 10/27/2008 10:34:13 PM PDT by DeLaine
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To: DeLaine

Maddow is so vile...


2 posted on 10/27/2008 10:39:14 PM PDT by RaiderRose (Don't be a racist. Vote for 0bama.)
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To: DeLaine

Rachel Maddow is a PDS loon.

If Herr Olbermeister were a man, she’d look like Rachel Maddow.


3 posted on 10/27/2008 10:45:24 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther; RaiderRose
RaiderRose:
Maddow is so vile...

tpanther:
Rachel Maddow is a PDS loon.

Then she's a prefect fit for MSNBC
4 posted on 10/27/2008 10:51:34 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: DeLaine
This French guy sounds like a real brain trust. Really scary. Almost as scary as having that rogue trooper mingling with the general public acting under the auspices of the Alaskan state government. Poor judgment, however, seems to be epidemic among Obama and his supporters.
5 posted on 10/27/2008 10:53:24 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: DeLaine
'What Good Does It Do' to Fire a 'Dangerous' Cop?

Then by those standards: What good is calling the dictator Bush a dictator?

Wouldn't that just incite the so called "fascist" Bushy McChimp?(Gag! I can't believe I type this trash)
6 posted on 10/27/2008 10:56:40 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: RedMonqey

7 posted on 10/27/2008 10:56:56 PM PDT by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: RedMonqey
'What Good Does It Do' to Fire a 'Dangerous' Cop?"

Then by those standards: What good is calling the "dictator" Bush a dictator?

Wouldn't that just incite the so called "fascist" Bushy McChimp?(Gag! I can't believe I typed this trash)
8 posted on 10/27/2008 10:59:12 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: timestax

And so is “Dingy Harry” Reed and “Not so nice Nancy” Pelosi.


9 posted on 10/27/2008 11:02:17 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: DeLaine; jan in Colorado; Perdogg; pissant; AuntB; Jeff Head; calcowgirl; cgk; DaveLoneRanger

Great post! “Must see” video, and commentary by a demonrat who politically has been trying to savage Sarah Pali’ns career.The moron borderlines on libel, fially, showing the world how stupid he is (He headed up troopergate).


10 posted on 10/27/2008 11:05:08 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Obama/Biden team puts their faith in Gov't. McCain/Palin team puts their faith in YOU!)
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To: RedMonqey

Yep, yep!


11 posted on 10/27/2008 11:06:24 PM PDT by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: DeLaine

I feel sorry for the people at NEwsbusters whose job it is to listen to Air America’s hacks.


12 posted on 10/27/2008 11:10:11 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: RedMonqey

What good does it do to discipline an angry child?? After all, if you cross the little darlings will, he’ll REALLLLY get mad.

We could go on and on....


13 posted on 10/27/2008 11:11:44 PM PDT by DeLaine
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To: DeLaine

Can’t help but think there are already solutions on the books for dealing with dangerous people.


14 posted on 10/27/2008 11:12:04 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: RedMonqey

Yes, and I’m beginning to believe all the drive-bys and lunatics like Leno and Letterman, pretty much any idiot behind a camera, is out of their mind stupid and anti-Palin.

Even Opie and Andy!

I think the American people are gonna jolt these hollyweirdos back into reality!


15 posted on 10/27/2008 11:14:23 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: DeLaine

16 posted on 10/27/2008 11:16:09 PM PDT by afortiori
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To: DeLaine

LOL

Gunny French, at it again, opening his mouth and dispelling all doubt.

He IS a fool.


17 posted on 10/27/2008 11:22:13 PM PDT by ASOC (Have a nice day, just don't have it around me (bumper sticker))
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To: skr
Guess again...See who you are dealing with...

The Troopergate saga continues, and the truth refuses to be marched out! Please allow me to expose part of hat is going on, allow me to help from the frozen horth! Walt Monegan failed to follow direction from Governor Palin. He was an "at will" employee. What part does he not understand that he can be dismissed for any reason?

The reality of the situation is two people (Andrew Halcro and Hollis French)seem to be so intent upon getting mud on the governor, that they are almost bordering libel.


Those in charge of troopergate
Naw, it's not partisan!!!...




The following Alaska elected officials are supporting Senator Obama’s campaign for president: State Senators (8) Bettye Davis, Anchorage Johnny Ellis, Anchorage Kim Elton, Juneau Hollis French, Anchorage Lyman Hoffman, Bethel Albert Kookesh, Angoon Joe Thomas, Fairbanks Bill Wielechowski, Anchorage


I found the supporter information on Obama's website! Go there and do a scroll in the "states section. It's buried deep, but the truth is there.

Of serious interest, is who Steve Branchflower is, the guy in charge of the investigation.

Presented by the Federal Election Commission



Individual Contributions Arranged By Type, Giver, Then Recipient


Contributions to Political Committees

ELTON, KIM
JUNEAU, AK 99801
STATE OF ALASKA

   KNOWLES, TONY
    VIA TONY KNOWLES FOR US SENATE
10/19/2004 250.00 24021102957

ELTON, KIM
JUNEAU, AK 99801
STATE OF ALASKA/STATE SENATOR

   OBAMA, BARACK
    VIA OBAMA FOR AMERICA
06/11/2007 750.00 27990256793
09/29/2007 250.00 27931420154
01/26/2008 500.00 28930635088
05/06/2008 500.00 28931968821

Total Contributions:    2250.00

TRY A: NEW QUERY
RETURN TO: FEC HOME PAGE



Part that breaks my heart, is that the trooper is still serving on the force!

18 posted on 10/27/2008 11:23:53 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Obama/Biden team puts their faith in Gov't. McCain/Palin team puts their faith in YOU!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Calpernia; SierraWasp; AppyPappy; RobinMasters; Chet 99; Salena Zito; Eska; ...

Palin Ping!


19 posted on 10/27/2008 11:52:56 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Obama/Biden team puts their faith in Gov't. McCain/Palin team puts their faith in YOU!)
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To: RedMonqey

20 posted on 10/28/2008 12:00:34 AM PDT by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: DeLaine

I firing them makes them mad & more dangerous, what are we supposed to do? Back-shoot them?


21 posted on 10/28/2008 12:14:22 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: DeLaine

For future reference, the proper spelling is “Tasergate”.


22 posted on 10/28/2008 12:20:22 AM PDT by BobbyT
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To: DeLaine

ah yes, all dangerous incompetents in all walks of life must be left in place b/c you never know if they might be more dangerous if removed from the position in which they are causing harm, violating rules and laws, etc.

And a “rogue cop” must above all be left in place, because it’s so much better for him to have the cover of the law and the badge when pursuing his dangerous activities....

Oh, yes, raving Demagogues, that is just the right way to run the world!!


23 posted on 10/28/2008 12:22:02 AM PDT by Enchante (The real "bitter clingers" are on the LEFT -- ranting Obamabots clinging to delusions!!)
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To: DeLaine
>"Stop and think about, what good does it do to fire a trooper if you really think he's dangerous?"

I don't know, is the Kansas BTK killer still on the payroll?

Obviously this donk loooooves the Bambi koolaide!

24 posted on 10/28/2008 3:07:36 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomunist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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To: RaiderRose
Maddow is so vile... I thought it was MAD-COW.
25 posted on 10/28/2008 3:10:17 AM PDT by liberateUS
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To: RaiderRose

Maddow is Vile with a Smile.....unlike Keith Olberman who is Vile with a Scowl.


26 posted on 10/28/2008 4:58:04 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: DeLaine
"Stop and think about, what good does it do to fire a trooper if you really think he's dangerous? "

---Hollis French, Chairman of the Alaska Good-Old-Boy Payback Committee

Do you realize that one of the committee members had to phone in his vote to release the report because he was busy being indicted for fraud that day?

27 posted on 10/28/2008 6:43:42 AM PDT by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: DeLaine

Why have rules or laws either. Lawbreakers just break..../s


28 posted on 10/28/2008 9:07:47 AM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: tpanther
What are they going to do IF Obama wins?

Since it is very un-pc to criticize or even joke about the Messiah, I see their audiences dwindle to nothing as their McCain-/Palin jokes will get old very quickly.

Of course the Dims could pass a mandate, i.e. a la quota system and limit our choices to three channels a la Universal Health care so we must watch their inept shows.

And of course the TVs will be two way monitors to make sure you're watching the correct shows and not just having the TV on and leaving the room. Circa. 1984

See what you can do when one ignores the Constitution?

29 posted on 10/28/2008 9:18:38 AM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: RedMonqey

excellent !!!


30 posted on 10/28/2008 12:13:41 PM PDT by DeLaine
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Cagey; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Northern Yankee; Froufrou

I made a post ping!


31 posted on 10/28/2008 12:14:56 PM PDT by DeLaine
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Cagey; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Northern Yankee; Froufrou

I made a thread ping!


32 posted on 10/28/2008 12:15:15 PM PDT by DeLaine
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To: DeLaine

oops


33 posted on 10/28/2008 12:15:39 PM PDT by DeLaine
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To: DeLaine

WOO HOO...you first thread!!


34 posted on 10/28/2008 12:16:45 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Issaquahking

Is that baby in the picture a registered Democrat voter?


35 posted on 10/28/2008 12:42:44 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
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To: DeLaine
Now you're tied with me - I believe I have started exactly one thread since I have been here.... ;^)

Now, who in his right mind (that's the key right there) would think it is better to let an angry deranged man legally carry a gun and have authority over others????

36 posted on 10/28/2008 12:54:26 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

The child doesn’t stand much of a chance, Pray that the child ios a closet conservative, and breaks out at 18. One can only pray.


37 posted on 10/28/2008 3:32:41 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Obama/Biden team puts their faith in Gov't. McCain/Palin team puts their faith in YOU!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Yes. And he already voted, twice!


38 posted on 10/28/2008 3:41:50 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Issaquahking

Well my husband broke out as the only conservative in his family......we couldn’t speak about politics during the clinton reign, and are already starting off badly with Nobama.....so there is always hope for a smart child.


39 posted on 10/28/2008 3:47:11 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
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To: Alas Babylon!

Twice, is that all? ;^)


40 posted on 10/28/2008 3:47:39 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
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