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Alaskan Legislator Tells Maddow: 'What Good Does It Do' to Fire a 'Dangerous' Cop?
Newsbusters ^
| Jack Coleman
Posted on 10/27/2008 10:34:13 PM PDT by DeLaine
An unintentionally hilarious assertion was made by Alaska State Senator Hollis French on Rachel Maddow's MSNBC cable show Friday night.
Maddow and French were discussing the so-called Troopergate scandal and Gov. Sarah Palin's alleged grudge in firing former Alaska public safety commissioner Walt Monegan for not reopening an investigation of a state trooper who went through a nasty divorce with Palin's sister.
Hollis, a Democrat who led the state legislature's investigation into Palin's actions in firing Monegan last July, cited "severe logical fallacies" in claims made by Palin and her husband Todd, including the Palins' request for reduced security despite their assertions that Wooten was a rogue cop.
Then came the coup de grace from French: Stop and think about, what good does it do to fire a trooper if you really think he's dangerous?
Yes -- the man actually uttered those words ... loud enough to hear ... on national television. The mind reels when confronted with such a worldview. Could be worse, however. If French were wearing a badge, for example.
The well-intentioned Alaskan legislator elaborated on his odd, troubling assertion, asking of anyone taking such a supposedly outlandish action as terminating the employment of a "dangerous" police officer: Do you think he's going to leave his job and suddenly be docile and happy about life because he's just been fired? It's likely to make him more dangerous. Heaven forbid that a dangerous state trooper is ever fired. This sort of thing might convey to those employed on the public dime that they are accountable for their actions.
In fairness to French, he did suggest what he thought Palin should have done when it came to dealing with Wooten.
Why didn't the governor do something about the policy she objected to, which is the trooper disciplinary policy? Why not come to the legislature and say, hey, I've got an idea to make the state of Alaska a better place and to do trooper disciplinary procedures in a better way? Let's change the law, let's make a policy change that protects everyone.
O-kay, say that Palin or another Alaskan politician did exactly what French is suggesting. Many moons and legislative sessions later, a shiny new "trooper disciplinary procedure" is unveiled, one that leads to ... firing of dangerous state troopers. Uh, wouldn't this just make them more dangerous?
Such are the joys of watching Maddow that she provided her own gem of an assertion almost as priceless as those from French.
"You know it's funny," Maddow said. "Every time we have somebody on from Alaska, they are like the most articulate, clear thinking, clear-speaking person we've yet spoken to. It's a very impressive group up there in Alaska."
Impressive, indeed. Aside from Democratic legislators leading allegedly non-partisan investigations of political opponents.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: codeofsilence; cultureofcorruption; donutwatch; hollisfrench; leo; maddow; palin; palinrecord; police; rachelmaddow; wooten
I hope to God I did this right. I did a search. Can I pull a "Libbie" (liberal) if this has been posted already?? "IT'S NOT MY FAULT!!" I don't usually post. I just read.
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posted on
10/27/2008 10:34:13 PM PDT
by
DeLaine
To: DeLaine
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posted on
10/27/2008 10:39:14 PM PDT
by
RaiderRose
(Don't be a racist. Vote for 0bama.)
To: DeLaine
Rachel Maddow is a PDS loon.
If Herr Olbermeister were a man, she’d look like Rachel Maddow.
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posted on
10/27/2008 10:45:24 PM PDT
by
tpanther
(All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
To: tpanther; RaiderRose
RaiderRose:
Maddow is so vile...
tpanther:
Rachel Maddow is a PDS loon.
Then she's a prefect fit for MSNBC
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posted on
10/27/2008 10:51:34 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
To: DeLaine
This French guy sounds like a real brain trust. Really scary. Almost as scary as having that rogue trooper mingling with the general public acting under the auspices of the Alaskan state government. Poor judgment, however, seems to be epidemic among Obama and his supporters.
To: DeLaine
'What Good Does It Do' to Fire a 'Dangerous' Cop?
Then by those standards: What good is calling the dictator Bush a dictator?
Wouldn't that just incite the so called "fascist" Bushy McChimp?(Gag! I can't believe I type this trash)
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posted on
10/27/2008 10:56:40 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
To: RedMonqey
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posted on
10/27/2008 10:56:56 PM PDT
by
timestax
( CNNLIES)
To: RedMonqey
'What Good Does It Do' to Fire a 'Dangerous' Cop?"
Then by those standards: What good is calling the "dictator" Bush a dictator?
Wouldn't that just incite the so called "fascist" Bushy McChimp?(Gag! I can't believe I typed this trash)
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posted on
10/27/2008 10:59:12 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
To: timestax
And so is “Dingy Harry” Reed and “Not so nice Nancy” Pelosi.
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:02:17 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
To: DeLaine; jan in Colorado; Perdogg; pissant; AuntB; Jeff Head; calcowgirl; cgk; DaveLoneRanger
Great post! “Must see” video, and commentary by a demonrat who politically has been trying to savage Sarah Pali’ns career.The moron borderlines on libel, fially, showing the world how stupid he is (He headed up troopergate).
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:05:08 PM PDT
by
Issaquahking
(Obama/Biden team puts their faith in Gov't. McCain/Palin team puts their faith in YOU!)
To: RedMonqey
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:06:24 PM PDT
by
timestax
( CNNLIES)
To: DeLaine
I feel sorry for the people at NEwsbusters whose job it is to listen to Air America’s hacks.
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:10:11 PM PDT
by
mbraynard
(You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
To: RedMonqey
What good does it do to discipline an angry child?? After all, if you cross the little darlings will, he’ll REALLLLY get mad.
We could go on and on....
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:11:44 PM PDT
by
DeLaine
To: DeLaine
Can’t help but think there are already solutions on the books for dealing with dangerous people.
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:12:04 PM PDT
by
skr
(May God confound the enemy)
To: RedMonqey
Yes, and I’m beginning to believe all the drive-bys and lunatics like Leno and Letterman, pretty much any idiot behind a camera, is out of their mind stupid and anti-Palin.
Even Opie and Andy!
I think the American people are gonna jolt these hollyweirdos back into reality!
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:14:23 PM PDT
by
tpanther
(All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
To: DeLaine
To: DeLaine
LOL
Gunny French, at it again, opening his mouth and dispelling all doubt.
He IS a fool.
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:22:13 PM PDT
by
ASOC
(Have a nice day, just don't have it around me (bumper sticker))
To: skr
Guess again...See who you are dealing with...
The Troopergate saga continues, and the truth refuses to be marched out! Please allow me to expose part of hat is going on, allow me to help from the frozen horth! Walt Monegan failed to follow direction from Governor Palin. He was an "at will" employee. What part does he not understand that he can be dismissed for any reason?
The reality of the situation is two people (Andrew Halcro and Hollis French)seem to be so intent upon getting mud on the governor, that they are almost bordering libel.
Those in charge of troopergate
Naw, it's not partisan!!!...

The following Alaska elected officials are supporting Senator Obamas campaign for president: State Senators (8) Bettye Davis, Anchorage Johnny Ellis, Anchorage Kim Elton, Juneau Hollis French, Anchorage Lyman Hoffman, Bethel Albert Kookesh, Angoon Joe Thomas, Fairbanks Bill Wielechowski, Anchorage
I found the supporter information on Obama's website! Go there and do a scroll in the "states section. It's buried deep, but the truth is there.
Of serious interest, is who Steve Branchflower is, the guy in charge of the investigation.
Presented by the Federal Election Commission
Individual Contributions Arranged By Type, Giver, Then Recipient
Contributions to Political Committees
ELTON, KIM
JUNEAU, AK 99801
STATE OF ALASKA
ELTON, KIM
JUNEAU, AK 99801
STATE OF ALASKA/STATE SENATOR
Total Contributions: 2250.00
TRY A: NEW QUERY
RETURN TO: FEC HOME PAGE
Part that breaks my heart, is that the trooper is still serving on the force!
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:23:53 PM PDT
by
Issaquahking
(Obama/Biden team puts their faith in Gov't. McCain/Palin team puts their faith in YOU!)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; Calpernia; SierraWasp; AppyPappy; RobinMasters; Chet 99; Salena Zito; Eska; ...
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posted on
10/27/2008 11:52:56 PM PDT
by
Issaquahking
(Obama/Biden team puts their faith in Gov't. McCain/Palin team puts their faith in YOU!)
To: RedMonqey
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:00:34 AM PDT
by
timestax
( CNNLIES)
To: DeLaine
I firing them makes them mad & more dangerous, what are we supposed to do? Back-shoot them?
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:14:22 AM PDT
by
ApplegateRanch
(The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
To: DeLaine
For future reference, the proper spelling is “Tasergate”.
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:20:22 AM PDT
by
BobbyT
To: DeLaine
ah yes, all dangerous incompetents in all walks of life must be left in place b/c you never know if they might be more dangerous if removed from the position in which they are causing harm, violating rules and laws, etc.
And a “rogue cop” must above all be left in place, because it’s so much better for him to have the cover of the law and the badge when pursuing his dangerous activities....
Oh, yes, raving Demagogues, that is just the right way to run the world!!
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:22:02 AM PDT
by
Enchante
(The real "bitter clingers" are on the LEFT -- ranting Obamabots clinging to delusions!!)
To: DeLaine
>"Stop and think about, what good does it do to fire a trooper if you really think he's dangerous?"I don't know, is the Kansas BTK killer still on the payroll?
Obviously this donk loooooves the Bambi koolaide!
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posted on
10/28/2008 3:07:36 AM PDT
by
rawcatslyentist
(I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomunist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
To: RaiderRose
Maddow is so vile... I thought it was MAD-COW.
To: RaiderRose
Maddow is Vile with a Smile.....unlike Keith Olberman who is Vile with a Scowl.
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posted on
10/28/2008 4:58:04 AM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: DeLaine
"Stop and think about, what good does it do to fire a trooper if you really think he's dangerous? "
---Hollis French, Chairman of the Alaska Good-Old-Boy Payback Committee
Do you realize that one of the committee members had to phone in his vote to release the report because he was busy being indicted for fraud that day?
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posted on
10/28/2008 6:43:42 AM PDT
by
cookcounty
("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
To: DeLaine
Why have rules or laws either. Lawbreakers just break..../s
To: tpanther
What are they going to do IF Obama wins?
Since it is very un-pc to criticize or even joke about the Messiah, I see their audiences dwindle to nothing as their McCain-/Palin jokes will get old very quickly.
Of course the Dims could pass a mandate, i.e. a la quota system and limit our choices to three channels a la Universal Health care so we must watch their inept shows.
And of course the TVs will be two way monitors to make sure you're watching the correct shows and not just having the TV on and leaving the room. Circa. 1984
See what you can do when one ignores the Constitution?
To: RedMonqey
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:13:41 PM PDT
by
DeLaine
To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Cagey; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Northern Yankee; Froufrou
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:14:56 PM PDT
by
DeLaine
To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Cagey; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Northern Yankee; Froufrou
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:15:15 PM PDT
by
DeLaine
To: DeLaine
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:15:39 PM PDT
by
DeLaine
To: DeLaine
WOO HOO...you first thread!!
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:16:45 PM PDT
by
Jersey Republican Biker Chick
(You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. - Abraham Lincoln)
To: Issaquahking
Is that baby in the picture a registered Democrat voter?
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:42:44 PM PDT
by
WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
(Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
To: DeLaine
Now you're tied with me - I believe I have started exactly one thread since I have been here.... ;^)
Now, who in his right mind (that's the key right there) would think it is better to let an angry deranged man legally carry a gun and have authority over others????
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posted on
10/28/2008 12:54:26 PM PDT
by
WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
(Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
The child doesn’t stand much of a chance, Pray that the child ios a closet conservative, and breaks out at 18. One can only pray.
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posted on
10/28/2008 3:32:41 PM PDT
by
Issaquahking
(Obama/Biden team puts their faith in Gov't. McCain/Palin team puts their faith in YOU!)
To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Yes. And he already voted, twice!
To: Issaquahking
Well my husband broke out as the only conservative in his family......we couldn’t speak about politics during the clinton reign, and are already starting off badly with Nobama.....so there is always hope for a smart child.
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posted on
10/28/2008 3:47:11 PM PDT
by
WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
(Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
To: Alas Babylon!
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posted on
10/28/2008 3:47:39 PM PDT
by
WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
(Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
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