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The fat lady has not begun to sing (Barf Alert)
The London Guardian ^ | October 28, 2008 | Dan Kennedy

Posted on 10/28/2008 1:08:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

An Obama victory seems like a forgone conclusion but don't be surprised if McCain manages to stage a huge political upset.

On election day 2004, David Corn and I spent part of the afternoon at a Starbucks near Boston's Copley Square, a couple of blocks from where John Kerry would hold his party that night.

For a few brief hours, a Kerry victory looked certain. We wondered whom Kerry might choose to fill his cabinet. And Corn lamented his decision to come to Boston rather than stay in Washington for George W. Bush's bash. Losers, he explained, are always more interesting.

So if you are a supporter of Barack Obama, you will have to forgive me today for spraying you with a blast of ice water.

Listen to me: Obama might lose.

As we head into the final days of the campaign - or the end times, as Sarah Palin might put it - let me count the ways by which McCain could pull this off.

1. Voter suppression. What do you think the McCain campaign's full-scale war against Acorn is all about? Acorn, a left-leaning activist organisation, has indeed engaged in voter registration fraud - or, rather, has had registration fraud perpetrated upon it by unscrupulous signature gatherers. But these phony voters are not going to be able to cast ballots unless they show up at the polls with some sort of valid identification.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; acorn; cultureofcorruption; democrats; democratscandals; dncbrownshirts; election; elections; howtostealanelection; iamakennedy; mccain; obama; revisionisthistory; stalinisttactics; starkravingsocialism; voterfraud
Yeah, it's the GOP that's cheating. What a crock! He is right about Senator Obama possibly losing, though.
1 posted on 10/28/2008 1:08:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Last election Kerry was like double digit in front of Bush and look what happened. This time it’s only a few points ...


2 posted on 10/28/2008 1:10:14 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
On election day 2004, David Corn and I spent part of the afternoon at a Starbucks

Holding hands?

3 posted on 10/28/2008 1:10:21 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Corn lamented his decision to come to Boston rather than stay in Washington for George W. Bush's bash. Losers, he explained, are always more interesting.

not true, David Corn does not interest me at all.

4 posted on 10/28/2008 1:14:01 PM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: SkyDancer

We still have a decent shot but the polls were very different at this point in 2004. In 2000 eleven of the last fifteen polls had Bush winning so that time they were decent. Of the last few 2004 polls, Bush was winning a lot of them. CBS/NYT, Gallup LV, Time, and Zogby all had him ahead.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/info/polls-2004.html
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/info/polls-2000.html


5 posted on 10/28/2008 1:14:57 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

true that

but always remember in 2004, GW Bush was a much better candidate, he had a governing record to defend and he had more money and DemocRATS were defending their states from Bush and Republican invasion. This time its the opposite for JM as he really does not know how to campaign. In fact were it not for Palin, i shudder at where we would have been. Thank god for Palin.


6 posted on 10/28/2008 1:14:57 PM PDT by JoseScales
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who’s votes are being suppressed? Mickey and Minnie’s? The Dallas Cowboys offensive line? Obama supporters don’t deserve the right to cheat, regardless of how they rationalize it.


7 posted on 10/28/2008 1:15:44 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Obama is a neo-Marxist)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All liberals suck.

Some do, literally.

Like this one.

8 posted on 10/28/2008 1:19:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Guardian in the UK is just like the BBC.

Same agenda: “All white people are evil and racist.”

Once you understand that you understand the Guardian and BBC.

Times of London is not any better and the UK Telegraph is getting crappy too.


9 posted on 10/28/2008 1:19:21 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who knows the rules about counting the votes?
I always thought that “COUNTING” couldn’t begin until the polls close within a state, as the time zones move along.

The ribbon on Fox station 11 out of San Fran this AM said they were going to begin COUNTING the votes today.

Anyone here know what the rules are?????


10 posted on 10/28/2008 1:19:25 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: edzo4
dang you beat me to my response:

Losers, he explained, are always more interesting.

Corn being the exception.

11 posted on 10/28/2008 1:20:27 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What an ignorant jerk.
“But these phony voters are not going to be able to cast ballots unless they show up at the polls with some sort of valid identification.”
That’s funny. The liberals were the ones fighting tooth and nail against such voter identification requirements.


12 posted on 10/28/2008 1:25:39 PM PDT by Chewie84
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To: normy

being a loser and a democrat is like a badge of courage just look at the crew they trot out all the time, dukakis carter, bob shrum, gore, kerry, edwards etc etc etc


13 posted on 10/28/2008 1:29:22 PM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: edzo4

“Losers, he explained, are always more interesting.”

When SNL was actually funny, they did a bit called “Dukakis After Dark”. It was his party to burn through the rest of his campaign cash. Great stuff. Hopefully, Obama will have a huge bash to get rid of his cash. Could be a party for the ages.


14 posted on 10/28/2008 1:32:02 PM PDT by Holicheese (Get up Tom Brady, get up! PLEASE!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Voter suppression is in the eye of the beholder. Remember 2006 when shortly before the election MSNBC was pushing a book by an ex-administration Christian that said that the Bush staff hated Christians and insulted them behind their backs? Democrats have no trouble trying to suppress Republican turnout. As far as smear and fear, in 2006 democrats had Bush to demonize but there was no one on democrat side that people knew for republicans to attack(even now few know who Pelosi is) . With a presidential election democrats have a high profile candidate that has serious flaws, that FNC is doing a great job pointing out. It's only a smear if republicans do it.
15 posted on 10/28/2008 1:34:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( Obama's "95% Middle Class" ="those not paying taxes who deserve YOUR wealth")
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To: Holicheese

it sounds funny, I found the transcript

Dukakis After Dark

Michael Dukakis.....Jon Lovitz
Lloyd Bentsen.....Matthew Modine
Pianist.....Cheryl Hardwick
Kitty Dukakis.....Jan Hooks
Ted Kennedy.....Phil Hartman
Leroy Neiman.....Kevin Nealon
Willie Horton.....
Donna Rice.....Victoria Jackson
Jimmy Carter.....Dana Carvey
Joan Baez.....Nora Dunn

[ open on Michael Dukakis sitting in a chair in a darkened room ]

Michael Dukakis: Good evening. I’m Michael Dukakis. The Democratic candidate for President of the United States. Now, several months ago when we purchased this half-hour of television time, we planned to use it as a last-minute appeal to undecided voters. But.. quite frankly.. after meeting with my advisors, and seeing the latest polls, it’s clear to me - and it would be clear to anyone - that I don’t have a chinaman’s chance of winning this election. I’m gonna be beaten. Badly beaten. And I see no reason to sit here tonight and pretend otherwise. However, I’ve got thirty minutes of prepaid, non-refundable network time. Now, I could sit here, give you thesame old song-and-dance about “good jobs with good wages”, and “the best Ameroca is yet to come”.. blah, blah, blah, blah! But if you haven’t bought it by now, why bother? So, instead of speeches, I’ve decided to throw a party, for everyone involved with the campaign. It’s a good party. A fun party. And you’re invited. After all, the federal matching funds - you paid for half of it! So come on in.

[ Dukakis gets up, as the lights rise and a woman removes his business suit and replaces it with a Hugh Hefnerish smoking jacket, then he joins the party ]

[ SUPER: Dukakis After Dark ]

Michael Dukakis: [ is handed a drink by a bunny ] Ah! Everybody’s here. Come on, don’t be shy. Well, here’s my running-mate, Lloyd Bentsen.

[ pan to Lloyd Bentsen, who’s chatting with two attractive girls ]

Lloyd Bentsen: ..Then I looked him straight in the eye, and said, “Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy!” Ha ha!

Michael Dukakis: [ ambles over ] Lloyd. How’s that martini treating you?

Lloyd Bentsen: Not too badly, Mike. I wish the polls were treating us a little better.

Michael Dukakis: Well, Lloyd, we represent unpopular and discredited views.

Lloyd Bentsen: Mike! Now that it’s all over, you can tell me. You were gonna raise taxes, weren’t you?

Michael Dukakis: Well, you bet I was! Through the roof! But now.. I won’t get the chance.

Kitty Dukakis: [ from across the room ] Michael, would you come over here, please?

Michael Dukakis: [ to the camera ] Well, as usual, Ted Kennedy’s got his eye on a beautiful brunette. In this case, my wife Kitty.

[ cut to Kitty and Ted Kennedy in the corner ]

Ted Kennedy: [ touching Kitty’s dress ] This is very nice.. what’s it made of..?

Kitty Dukakis: Senator Kennedy, please..

Ted Kennedy: You know, Kitty.. after a defeat like this, Mike’s gonna need some time alone.. If you like, you’re welcome to come down to Hiannas Port for a few days. Of course, you can have your own room..

Kitty Dukakis: No, I don’t think that would be a good idea, do you, Senator?

Ted Kennedy: Here. Watch this. [ swigs his beer, letting it drip down his shirt ]

Michael Dukakis: [ observing ] Well, it looks like these two want to be alone! [ looks across the room ] There’s my friend Leroy Neiman. Let’s go see what Leroy’s doing. [ approaches Leroy, who’s painting a mural ] Hello, Leroy. That’s great. It’s great. What do you call it?

Leroy Neiman: Governor, I call this “What Might Have Been”. It shows the nuclear aircraft carrier Niemitz after its conversion into a floating shelter for the homeless.

Michael Dukakis: Well, it’s beautiful, Leroy.

Leroy Neiman: Thank you.

Michael Dukakis: I think it’s right up there with the Olympic Moment series that you did for Burger King.

Leroy Neiman: Thank you.

Willie Horton: [ across the room ] Mike! My main man!

Michael Dukakis: [ walks over ] Willie Horton. Give me five. Come on, give me five.

Willie Horton: Hey, man, this party is great! Yo! Thanks for the furlough.

Michael Dukakis: It’s no problem, homeboy. I’m just sorry I won’t be able to give you that presidential pardon.

Willie Horton: Oh, that’s alright, man, you tried. Say.. you know Donna Rice? [ introduces blonde woman he’s dancing with ]

Michael Dukakis: Of course. Hello, Donna.

Donna Rice: Hi, Mike. Would you like to join us for some dirty dancing?

Michael Dukakis: Maybe later, kids. [ to the camera ] For now, come with me, I’d like you to meet the person that I consider the greatest living American - Jimmy Carter.

[ Jimmy is engaged in conversation with Lloyd Bentsen ]

Lloyd Bentsen: ..I looked him right in the eye, and said, “Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy!”

Jimmy Carter: Yes, well, I think I heard that, Lloyd..

Michael Dukakis: Jimmy?

Jimmy Carter: Oh, hello, Mike.

Michael Dukakis: I’m about to lose as bad as you did. Maybe worse. How did you deal with it afterwards?

Jimmy Carter: Well, basically, Michael, you go through three stages. The first is Denial: “I did win! I am the President! Yahoo!” But then when Reagan got inaugurated, I had to move on to the next stage.

Michael Dukakis: Which is?

Jimmy Carter: Anger. I was one pissed-off cracker!

Michael Dukakis: And then what?

Jimmy Carter: Well, then, Michael - Acceptance. I had to accept the fact that I was a downer. A liberal downer. A malaise-ridden liberal downer. A free-spending malaise-ridden liberal downer, who only knew..

Michael Dukakis: Jimmy, Jimmy.. believe me, I understand. [ looks across the room ] Is that Joan Baez? It is. Let’s go listen. Why don’t you join us?

[ show Joan Baez singing ]

Joan Baez: “You’re lateral disarmament, abortions on demand
Take everybody’s guns away, and toss them in the sand.
Freec condoms for the kids
We’ll not blame the criminals for anything he did.
For who cam say what’s right or wrong, if there’s such a thing as sin?
And all that really matters, is wars we lose or win.

Michael Dukakis: [ sitting on couch ] Well, thanks for coming to the party. That just about does it for the campaign. You know, I think the one thing that really hurt us is the fact that Reaganomics works. It really does. I mean, aren’t you better off than you were eight years ago? I know I am. How about the rest of you? [ looks at his guests, who shake their heads in agreement ] I wish you weren’t, but you are. You are better off. And there’s no denying it. Well, I’d like to thank my guests - my running-mate, Lloyd Bentsen, who’d asked me to remind you he’s still on the ballot down in Texas; Jane Fonda; Daniel Ortega; an, of course, my good friend Ted Kennedy. Good night.


16 posted on 10/28/2008 1:42:39 PM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But these phony voters are not going to be able to cast ballots unless they show up at the polls with some sort of valid identification.

This guy is an idiot. He doesn't get that voter ID isn't required in most locations. Or else, he's counting on the fact that a significant number of his readers don't know that fact.

17 posted on 10/28/2008 2:12:41 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But these phony voters are not going to be able to cast ballots unless they show up at the polls with some sort of valid identification.

You DON'T NEED any identification to vote in some states, thanks to laws put on the books by Democrats.
18 posted on 10/28/2008 2:32:40 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Get your own damn pie.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
On election day 2004, David Corn and I spent part of the afternoon at a Starbucks near Boston's Copley Square, a couple of blocks from where John Kerry would hold his party that night. For a few brief hours, a Kerry victory looked certain.

That's because Zogby and others cooked the books to depress Republican turnout "it's a foregone conclusion that Bush has lost".

Millions said F.U! to the ivory tower media elites.

19 posted on 10/28/2008 4:44:09 PM PDT by weegee (James Brown sang: "I Don't Want Nobody to Give Me Nothing, Open Up the Door, I'll Get It Myself".)
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1. Voter suppression. What do you think the McCain campaign's full-scale war against Acorn is all about?

What's it about? Keeping your lying scumbag friends from casting 7 ballots each on election day with names like Mickey Mouse and John Smith.

If you want to talk about supression, how about the people who've had their McCain campaign signs stolen 3 nights in a row? Seems that someone is trying to supress their voices.

20 posted on 10/28/2008 4:46:07 PM PDT by weegee (James Brown sang: "I Don't Want Nobody to Give Me Nothing, Open Up the Door, I'll Get It Myself".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2. The Bradley Effect.

How about this? When you sample 20% more democrat than republican, when that is not the demographic turnout at the polls nationally, you bias the numbers. When “Democrat” voters disappear from the actual results, it is because they were over sampled to begin with.

F’n race baiting Rat.


21 posted on 10/28/2008 4:50:22 PM PDT by weegee (James Brown sang: "I Don't Want Nobody to Give Me Nothing, Open Up the Door, I'll Get It Myself".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

3. Smear and fear.

You mean like an October surprise about GW Bush being AWOL “and here are the documents to prove it, on the nightly news”?

You mean like innuendo that Mark Foley molested children (he did not have sex with minors, evangelical voters were shamed that he was a homosexual PERIOD but that wasn’t enough for Pelosi’s witchhunters).

How about the “response” that Obama had to the Ayers charge? They brought up the Keating 5. That lasted about a day but they did use that as their response.


22 posted on 10/28/2008 4:53:07 PM PDT by weegee (James Brown sang: "I Don't Want Nobody to Give Me Nothing, Open Up the Door, I'll Get It Myself".)
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To: Hoffer Rand

He’s lying, and not by omission because he makes the charge that they DO require ID. He’s counting on his Brit audience not knowing the TRUTH.


23 posted on 10/28/2008 4:54:28 PM PDT by weegee (James Brown sang: "I Don't Want Nobody to Give Me Nothing, Open Up the Door, I'll Get It Myself".)
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To: edzo4

It was fantastic. I tried to find it on YouTube but they only seem to have ones with Tina Fey as Sarah Palin


24 posted on 10/28/2008 5:31:52 PM PDT by Holicheese (Get up Tom Brady, get up! PLEASE!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the 2006 election, only 5.5% of all military votes cast were counted. We’ve already heard reports of military ballots being thrown in the garbage THIS election. Voter fraud/suppression indeed.


25 posted on 10/28/2008 10:56:49 PM PDT by RocketMan1
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