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Calif. man killed by police in mistaken identity (Trigger Happy Cop)
AP, via Yahoo! News ^ | October 29, 2008 | AP

Posted on 10/29/2008 5:06:39 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner

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To: cripplecreek
"After all, I don't think this cop was out hunting innocent people."

Yes he was. All cops do, didnt you know. The only people allowed to have weapons and authority should be....oh wait a minute. Nevermind. /smirk

21 posted on 10/29/2008 5:58:08 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Centurion2000
"Since when do the cops shoot at unarmed men now? Especially if he's not running away?"

The article said that?

22 posted on 10/29/2008 5:59:04 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: HossB86; Red in Blue PA
Yes, that is true. Police Officers are 'technically' civilians, but let me ask you this: who else could shoot someone in their own property, and then simply say that they were chasing 4 crooks, dude pops up, and I put two slugs in his center mass? Who else could say that?

To be honest, police officers are BEYOND civilian, because not even the bravest Soldier every to serve in the US Military could ever hope to pull such a thing off.

Tell any group of heroes (say, any soldier who just finished a tour in Iraq or Afghanistan, since each is a hero) who live around your neighborhood to take some guns, wear some hoodies/masks, and then just storm en-masse into someone's home, knocking down the door, and entering with guns drawn ....oh, and just to make it up to spec, have them shoot that person's dogs (since they were vicious).

When asked what the heck they were thinking, tell your local heroes to say that they simply 'got the wrong address.' Then see what happens to them! All their months/years of service in Iraq /Afghanistan wouldn't amount to much, since they would be thrown hard against the grinder.

However, that is a common excuse whenever cops stomp in the wrong door, with the danger being that the first thing I would do if I (a totally law abiding citizen) saw a bunch of MASKED men rushing in, is try to defend myself. Which would mean getting shot, since they are coming in ready, and I was probably settling in to watch some rerun on the plasma.

Cops are beyond-civilian. The only thing they cannot do is attack the POTUS and other high-ranking government officials (they'd be in trouble for that), or attack any one who has the ability to hire a very high profile lawyer (maybe a sixth-sense of some sort allows them to exude this ability). Anyone else who doesn't fall in the above categories is not equal in stature or rights to a police office, and thus should act accordingly.

I remember when I was once stopped in Oklahoma (a place called Nichols Hills ...apparently the cop was surprised that someone 'my age' was driving such a nice car in a nice place) ...the moment the lights flash I pull over, lower the windows, turn on all the lights inside the car, and place my hands on the steering wheel. When he asked for papers, I state out verbally every action I am doing (e.g: ''officer, I am slowly reaching into the glove compartment for the insurance, by the Hartford insurance company, etc etc etc'). Dude looked at me, and just walked back and drove off. maybe a little extreme, but better than getting shot for a mistake. I might have 'stolen the car.'

23 posted on 10/29/2008 5:59:24 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: HossB86
Remember: Police ARE civilian. Unless you’re in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or Coast Guard, you are a civilian. Period.

Yea, that's a pet peeve of mine as well. When I hear police, firefighters, doctors, etc. talk about "civilians" I like to ask them what their Geneva Convention Code is. They get a bewildered look on their faces. Many take offense to being told that they too are "just" civilians.

24 posted on 10/29/2008 6:00:12 AM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: VaBthang4
The story does not explain if the individual brandished a weapon or went after an officer.

Neither of these justifies shooting the man on his property.... But don't worry, the investigators will ask the cop what commands he gave the fellow he shot, I'm sure his answer will be acceptable to the internal investigation and it will be ruled a "good shoot". No problem.

25 posted on 10/29/2008 6:00:58 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: spetznaz

Very well said.

Also, if someone is shot and you call in an “officer down” watch how many descend upon the house. Where is the equal treatment under the law?


27 posted on 10/29/2008 6:05:45 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama is not qualified for the FBI, but he is qualified for the Presidency????)
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To: VaBthang4

No, but it’s a sad commentary that you need to keep that phrase in the back of your head should you really need help.


29 posted on 10/29/2008 6:12:08 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama is not qualified for the FBI, but he is qualified for the Presidency????)
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To: VaBthang4

Knock off the personal attacks and profanity. NOW.


30 posted on 10/29/2008 6:13:39 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: caver

no. but i am not sure how that would filter down to me and my job. i’d love to see some of obamas minions try to take over our ‘hood. we’re the biggest ‘gang’ in the city.


31 posted on 10/29/2008 6:15:42 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact i DID only read the excerpt.)
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Haha, sorry.


33 posted on 10/29/2008 6:17:19 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4

I ain’t laughing.


34 posted on 10/29/2008 6:18:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: All
I'll just leave it at this...

:o)

35 posted on 10/29/2008 6:18:38 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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If you care to reply in a manner that won’t bring the zot kitties down on you, my post #25 is still waiting a response.

I can’t imagine what set you off though.


36 posted on 10/29/2008 6:18:47 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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I didnt ask you.


37 posted on 10/29/2008 6:19:06 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: American_Centurion

You got your response. Ponder it.


38 posted on 10/29/2008 6:20:27 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: American_Centurion

ooops, guess he got the ZOT!!! after all.

Too bad. ; )


39 posted on 10/29/2008 6:20:34 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: thefactor
i’m a cop. please tell me how an obama presidency will make me more likely to screw up and kill someone who does not deserve it.

You're a cop in the traditional police force, not in the new civilian political cadres some have heard Obama as proposing. Do you think that, if he gets some sort of politically oriented civilian service going, that it will be totally unarmed? Or that it will meet the same standards of training as traditional police? Or that its errors will be subject to IAD and strict court supervision? I don't.

40 posted on 10/29/2008 6:21:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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