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Dole's 'godless' ad angers Hagan
Raleigh News & Obstructor ^ | October 29, 2008 | Lisa Zagaroli

Posted on 10/29/2008 9:40:40 AM PDT by NCDragon

State Sen. Kay Hagan says she'll go to court to seek a cease-and-desist order against U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole's campaign if the "godless" TV spot isn't pulled in the next 24 hours.

Hagan, a Democrat, held a press conference this morning with her family and minister at the Presbyterian church in Greensboro where she is an elder and has taught Sunday school.

Hagan's campaign said it had delivered letters to Dole's Raleigh and Salisbury offices and her Washington, D.C., home, giving the campaign 24 hours to pull the ad before Hagan's campaign took legal recourse.

The political ad suggests Hagan is "godless" because she attended a fundraiser in Boston in September at the home of author Wendy Kaminer and her husband, Woody Kaplan, who was on the advisory board of the Godless Americans political action committee and active in a group that promotes "secular" ideas.

The TV ad features an announcer saying "Godless Americans and Kay Hagan. She hid from cameras. Took godless money. What did Hagan promise in return?"

Hagan and Dole are in a tight race for the Senate race.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008; dole; northcarolina
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If she didn't want this to fly in her face during an election...WHY did she associate with him in the FIRST place?
1 posted on 10/29/2008 9:40:40 AM PDT by NCDragon
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To: NCDragon

She’s a Democrat. She’s pro-abortion. Thus, she’s not godless. She worships Moloch.


2 posted on 10/29/2008 9:44:18 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: NCDragon

“The political ad suggests Hagan is “godless” because she attended a fundraiser in Boston in September at the home of author Wendy Kaminer and her husband, Woody Kaplan, who was on the advisory board of the Godless Americans political action committee and active in a group that promotes “secular” ideas.”

Exactly. If the shoe fits this DemocRat should wwear it.

But like most DemocRats, her view of the First Amendment is highly selective.


3 posted on 10/29/2008 9:44:35 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: NCDragon

Hmm...great ad by Liddy Dole.


4 posted on 10/29/2008 9:45:42 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: NCDragon

Dems hate the truth. Dems threaten legal action whenever the truth gets out. I hope Dole sticks with this attack. And frankly, as a member of a mainline protestant church (Episcopal), I can tell you that Hagan’s membership of another such denomination, by itself, isn’t really that much of a defense.


5 posted on 10/29/2008 9:45:50 AM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: NCDragon

Those dang facts. Always getting in the way of liberal lies.


6 posted on 10/29/2008 9:45:55 AM PDT by nhwingut (,)
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To: NCDragon

This is reminiscent of the idiotic ad we have running locally that says Shane Massey is against the Ten Commandments and the Lord’s Prayer. I’ll be so happy when this election season is over.


7 posted on 10/29/2008 9:47:08 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Arthur McGowan

Good for Liddy. Jesse Helms would be proud. Shame her husband never fought like this.


8 posted on 10/29/2008 9:47:12 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Arthur McGowan
She’s a Democrat. She’s pro-abortion. Thus, she’s not godless. She worships Moloch.

Amen !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua

9 posted on 10/29/2008 9:47:31 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: ZULU
I see Hagen lie about Dole for months on the Fannie and Freddie scandal when Dole sponsored legislation to rein it in.

Hagen suck it up.

10 posted on 10/29/2008 9:47:57 AM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: Harry Wurzbach
Dems threaten legal action whenever the truth gets out.

Boy could I make a great ad out of this one. Does Hagen teach in Sunday School that it's OK to murder itty bitty babies before they're born?

11 posted on 10/29/2008 9:49:25 AM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch, pray, and work. This election will separate the sheep from the goats.)
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To: Luke21

Yeah...LOL!...Jesse was the direct mail King.

Last week of the election, Jim Hunt would be hit, last week of the election Harvey Gantt...hit again..

Bout time Liddy took a lesson.


12 posted on 10/29/2008 9:49:35 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: pray4liberty

That teach Sunday School bit was the same pablum that Hillary Clinton used to trot out, if those folks are teaching Sunday School, Lord help us all.


13 posted on 10/29/2008 9:51:04 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: XeniaSt

Hey FRiend!
I hope the computer problems went by without too much pain!

I say Amen with you!


14 posted on 10/29/2008 9:51:32 AM PDT by netmilsmom ( Obama And Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon)
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To: NCDragon
“If Hagan attended an atheist fundraiser in Boston?
Here's a note to democrats, you can keep this one for
the next election cycle:

If you don't want to be linked to Atheists, terrorists,
felons, and race-baiting anti-americans, don't hang
around with them.

Pretty simple really.

If you don't want these kind of questions asked, stop
taking money from Anti-christ-like kinda peoples!”

I like this comment from the source site.

15 posted on 10/29/2008 9:53:06 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama and ITS thugs are made paranoid by Sarahnoia. (stole from molly_jack2007))
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To: padre35

Direct mail is unfair. Most rat voters can’t read or don’t have permanent addresses.


16 posted on 10/29/2008 9:54:03 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NCDragon

All I can say is, “WOW!!!”
This is a devastating and simply GREAT TV ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lf2vDk-4Ag


17 posted on 10/29/2008 9:57:06 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NCDragon
Let her sue. My mother always told me if you lay down with dogs you'll wake up with fleas!

If you don't want to be called 'godless' don't associate with and accept money from self professed 'godless' folks.

18 posted on 10/29/2008 10:02:44 AM PDT by pgkdan ("White folks greed runs a world in need," Jeremiah Wright as quoted by Barack Obama)
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To: Lancey Howard

Didn’t Hagan leap into contention in this race by running an ad about Dole not spending enough time in the state? So why is she having fundraisers in Boston with atheists? Not enough actual supporters in the state to get her elected?


19 posted on 10/29/2008 10:04:07 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (NEVER FORGET -- it all started with Fannie Mae and the Democrats!)
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To: Luke21

My thoughts exactly; a little bit of Carter Wrenn and Jesse Helms lives on in North Carolina...good for Senator Dole.


20 posted on 10/29/2008 10:04:51 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: netmilsmom
;-)

baruch HaShem
21 posted on 10/29/2008 10:05:27 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: padre35

Yes, the mainline Presbyterian church is a church in name only. One can be ordained a minister in the denomination without having to believe in the Bible. It’s sad.

There are some Bible-believing Presbyterian denominations, though, so remember that when you hear the MSM talk about Presbyterians. They’re not all the same.


22 posted on 10/29/2008 10:06:59 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Arthur McGowan

How is Liddy doing in the polls?


23 posted on 10/29/2008 10:09:15 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: NCDragon

Very hard hitting but fair. Hopefully it plays well with undecideds. This is a tight race but I think Dole takes it by a hair.


24 posted on 10/29/2008 10:15:51 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: MSF BU

Liddy and the Godless one are neck and neck, last poll by Civitas had it 42-41 Hagin...with undecideds growing not shrinking.


25 posted on 10/29/2008 10:18:47 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Some of the oldest churches around Charlotte are Presbytarian. One down the road from me dates from the late 1700’s. I am pretty sure that one is Bible believing, and from what I’ve heard, so is Hagan’s. That said, good ad Liddy.


26 posted on 10/29/2008 10:25:11 AM PDT by csmusaret (Mortgage meltdown, $4.00 gas, stockmarket meltdown. Welcome to the Pelosi/Reid economy.)
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To: NCDragon

A woman elder- there you have it!


27 posted on 10/29/2008 10:35:43 AM PDT by orchestra
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To: Arthur McGowan
Exactly - the stupid electorate dont realize that certain “Christian Churches” have nothing to do with Christ. These liberal churches promote homosexuality and pervert-ism and unnatural acts, the murdering of innocent children and the promotion of racial hate - yet the media doesnt expose the lies of these churches in relation to scripture.

We have become a compromised society - we allowed the left/communists to infiltrate our schools, churches and govt all under the disguise of diversity. We are in for a very tough future - no matter who wins. Pray, pray and pray - also buy guns and ammo because the left will be emboldened enact the policies of hate beyond what I believe we could never believe.

28 posted on 10/29/2008 10:36:05 AM PDT by sasafras (Bush Legacy = 20+years of leftist Presidents and a Democrat Congress - way to go Bushbots!!)
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To: NCDragon
I'd tell Hagan F_ _ _ - OFF....if it ain't true prove it!.......

Otherwise, it runs the table until election day.....let the chips fall where they may!

29 posted on 10/29/2008 10:40:30 AM PDT by thingumbob ("Use your brain........vote McCain!" (Remember, dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!))
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To: Dems_R_Losers

That would be a great follow up ad...if Liddy is told to pull this one......


30 posted on 10/29/2008 10:44:05 AM PDT by thingumbob ("Use your brain........vote McCain!" (Remember, dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!))
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To: NCDragon
State Sen. Kay Hagan says she'll go to court to seek a cease-and-desist order against U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole's campaign if the "godless" TV spot isn't pulled in the next 24 hours.

What would be the grounds for such a court order? Did Hagan not go to the fundraiser?

I'm no lawyer but it seems to me that Hagan's proper response would be to put up her own damn ad and quit acting like a two year old.

31 posted on 10/29/2008 10:44:05 AM PDT by freespirited (Honk to indict the MSM for treason.)
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To: freespirited
Kicking and screaming ......it's all they know

Look at Barack...dont'call me Hussein....don't make fun of my ears......BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

32 posted on 10/29/2008 10:46:14 AM PDT by thingumbob ("Use your brain........vote McCain!" (Remember, dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!))
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To: NCDragon

Democrats get SO P!SSED when you point out the truth about them.

Yes, you’re communist/socialist/fascists.
Yes, you’re godless and wicked.
Yes, you support infanticide.


33 posted on 10/29/2008 10:46:20 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Lancey Howard
Excellent! "What did Kay Hagan promise in return?" I would love it if they sued me. Sure, lets establish the veracity of this ad in a public court. Lets do it now!
34 posted on 10/29/2008 11:01:04 AM PDT by Skid Marx
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To: Lancey Howard; BillyBoy; Impy; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; JohnnyZ; darkangel82; ...

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or:

Rigor Mortis
c/o LBJ Memorial Cemetery, Plot 666
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or:

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35 posted on 10/29/2008 6:52:22 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: NCDragon
Dear Mme Hagan...

This is national party politics...
Your team is known to play more than a little hardball...

Bring a bat and a glove....

Oh yeah...
Wear a cup

36 posted on 10/29/2008 6:57:37 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: NCDragon; MitchellC; JaneNC; ncfool; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Norman Bates; ...

If this ad were backfiring, Kay Hagan wouldn’t be taking this action. Clearly, it’s inflicting damage on her chances.


37 posted on 10/29/2008 7:28:43 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: NCDragon

Here is the ad in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5AsdYWtKLY


38 posted on 10/29/2008 7:30:51 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: NCDragon

I’ve seen some obnoxious judicial rulings in the last several decades, but I’m curious to know what legal theory Hagan would use to bring suit against Dole and seek a cease-and-desist order? Any judge who might grant one in this situation has to be a judicial “activist” to the extreme.


39 posted on 10/29/2008 7:52:29 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Clintonfatigued

Either that or Dole is trying to stem a slide. Let’s hope the former. I always get worried when I see last minute “shockers” - like when Allen started attacking Webb on his books in the last week.


40 posted on 10/29/2008 8:07:44 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: padre35

That might be a positive thing, because I suspect much of the “Block Vote” won’t have the patience to wait in line or the forethought to vote early.


41 posted on 10/30/2008 3:33:11 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Illich Legal

This Place

Hammond IN

42 posted on 10/30/2008 5:28:32 AM PDT by Impy (Democrats, don't forget to vote on Wednesday!!!)
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To: Norman Bates

I guess Northern VA liked Webb’s i*ce*tu*us ga* po*n.


43 posted on 10/30/2008 5:32:46 AM PDT by Impy (Democrats, don't forget to vote on Wednesday!!!)
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To: Impy
Oh my goodness. $10k + $3500 in taxes for that ?

Now who wouldn't want to move into this dream home ? Ain't that a honey ?

44 posted on 10/30/2008 5:54:13 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Impy

Incestuous gay pedophiliac porn. A real low-rent Nabokov that makes the average “Dear Penthouse” letter writer look like Fyodor Dostoyevsky.


45 posted on 10/30/2008 5:57:18 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Lancey Howard

The question is....will it turn people off Dole? I hope not, but sometimes these things tend to do the opposite if too strong.


46 posted on 10/30/2008 6:40:24 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: rwfromkansas
"The question is....will it turn people off Dole? I hope not, but sometimes these things tend to do the opposite if too strong."

Yes, it will. The woman claiming to be godly is knowingly committing false witness. She's LYING.

If that's not a turnoff to undecided voters, I don't know what is. Thanks to Liddy, dems might get a veto proof majority.

Dole should be ashamed of herself, but I suppose she sold her soul for power a long time ago.

oops. Can I say that? Am I lying? Bearing false witness? ...........

47 posted on 10/30/2008 3:29:00 PM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: NCDragon

Dole is right.

And most of the Presbyterians that I’ve known are quite Godless. What’s her gripe?


48 posted on 10/30/2008 3:37:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a Suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: csmusaret
"I am pretty sure that one is Bible believing, and from what I’ve heard, so is Hagan’s."

Then why have they not excommunicated her? Her beliefs are not Biblical.

49 posted on 10/30/2008 3:42:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a Suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: Texas_shutterbug
" The woman claiming to be godly is knowingly committing false witness. She's LYING"

How so? Sounds like Dole is correct.

50 posted on 10/30/2008 3:43:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a Suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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