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THE FRENCH RESISTANCE (and coming soon, if the unthinkable happens, The Obama Resistance)
history learning site ^ | 10-30-08

Posted on 10/30/2008 2:13:03 PM PDT by doug from upland

NOTE: if the unthinkable happens, the Obama victory that seems likely, we can take lessons from the French Resistance. Today, I reserved theobamaresistance.com. I hope we don't need it, but if this Manchurian Candidate takes power, I fear for the future of the United States. He will be fought from day one.

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The French Resistance played a vital part in aiding the Allies to success in Western Europe - especially leading up to D-Day in June 1944. The French Resistance supplied the Allies with vital intelligence reports as well as doing a huge amount of work to disrupt the German supply and communication lines within France.

The surrender of France in June 1940, was a major blow to many French people in terms of their pride. Many believed that the government had let the people down. The creation of a Nazi-approved Vichy government, primarily in the centreand south of the country, was, in the minds of many, further proof that politicians had let down France. The resistance movement developed to provide the Allies with intelligence, attack the Germans when possible and to assist the escape of Allied airmen.

In the immediate aftermath of the June 1940 surrender, France went into a period of shock. The public had been assured that the French army, along with the Maginot Line, was more than strong enough to resist a German attack. The speed and severity of Blitzkrieg had shocked the French people. The non-occupied region of France, known as Vichy France, was set up by the Germans and governed by Marshall Pétain. His reputation was still high and in the early days of Vichy, his leadership gave it some stability and kudos. Also in the days after the British attack on Mers el Kébir, there was a degree of anti-British sentiment in France. Therefore, there was no immediate drive to create a resistance movement en masse in central and southern France.

On June 18th, 1940, Charles de Gaulle addressed the people of France from London. He called on the French people to continue the fight against the Germans. This message hit hard in occupied France but initially it was less well received in Vichy France. Regardless of what many thought of the Vichy government, the area they controlled was run by French people. However, when the Vichy government began to openly collaborate with the Germans, attitudes hardened.

The French Resistance movement is an umbrella term which covered numerous anti-German resistance movements that were based within France. There were resistance movements that took direct orders from the Special Operations Executive, there was the communist resistance, groups loyal to de Gaulle, regional resistance movements that wanted independence etc. In the north, the target was simply the Germans while in the south, the Vichy government was a target as well as the Germans. The first resistance movements were in the north, such as the OCM (Organisation Civile et Militaire) and by the end of 1940, six underground newspapers were being regularly printed in the north. In May 1941, the first SOE agent was dropped into northern France to assist the work of the resistance.

Because of the peculiar political complexities of France, the resistance movement got off to a difficult start. However, by June 1941, the resistance movement had become more organised and its work against the Germans increased accordingly. Two dates are important in explaining the work of the resistance movement in France.

On June 22nd 1941, all the communist groups within France joined forces to create one group. This simple act greatly increased its potency. On November 11th 1942, German forces occupied the whole of France. This meant that the whole country was occupied and the attitude of the north quickly transferred itself to the south.

The German attack on Russia - Operation Barbarossa - led to many French communists joining the resistance movement. Politics took a back step and the French communists gained a reputation for being aggressive and successful resistance fighters. Many French people joined as the support for Vichy quickly waned. Many in the south were angered by the compulsory labour service that had been brought in. But the treatment of the Jews was a major cause of resentment towards the Vichy government and many joined the resistance as a means of fighting against a policy that the vast majority found abhorrent.

The relationship between Britain and the French Resistance movement was vital. Britain, via the SOE, supplied the French with equipment and trained agents. The French Resistance, in turn, supplied vital intelligence reports. As an example, the British attack on the radio base at Bruneval in 1942 could have been a lot more costly in terms of lives lost, if the British had not received intelligence reports from the resistance with regards to the building of new blockhouses there. With such information, the British paratroopers could plan accordingly.

Though the British government and de Gaulle could have a difficult relationship at times, in October 1941, both reached a compromise with regards to resistance operations in France. de Gaulle set up a Central Intelligence and Operations Agency with the support of the British. This acted independently but planning was carried out in co-operation with the SOE which supplied equipment. Agents sent into France started a general re-grouping of all resistance movements and a Conseil National de la Résistance movement was established which was subordinated to de Gaulle. By the end of 1942, de Gaulle became head of the Comité Français de Libération Nationale which headed all resistance movements in France. As a result of this greater organisational security, the resistance became more effective in 1943. Attacks on the French rail system increased greatly. Between January and June 1943, there were 130 acts of sabotage against rail lines each month. By September 1943, this had increased to 530. The disruption to the Germans ability to move equipment was massive.

By 1944, it is estimated that there were 100,000 members of the various resistance movements that existed in France. Just one year earlier, there were just 40,000 members.. By the spring of 1944, there were 60 intelligence cells whose task was solely to collect intelligence as opposed to carrying out acts of sabotage. In the build up to D-Day, the intelligence they gathered was vital. In May 1944 alone, they sent 3,000 written reports to the Allies and 700 wireless reports. Between April and May, the resistance destroyed 1,800 railway engines. When this figure is added to the 2,400 destroyed by Allied bombers, it is easy to understand why the Germans had such difficulty transporting equipment across France.

Post-war analysis of the success of the resistance shows that the 150 most successful acts of sabotage against factories in France between 1943 and 1944, used just 3,000 lbs of explosives - the equivalent of the bomb load of one single Mosquito plane.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; obama; resistance

1 posted on 10/30/2008 2:13:04 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

the French resistance was badly factionalized, spending as much time fighting among themselves as fighting the Nazis, and in many cases were penetrated by German counterintelligence.


2 posted on 10/30/2008 2:20:30 PM PDT by kms61
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To: doug from upland
I know this is the romanticized view of the French resistance, but they were largely useless.

They had far more propaganda value than anything else.

L

3 posted on 10/30/2008 2:23:10 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: doug from upland

Where do I sign up?


4 posted on 10/30/2008 2:23:17 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: doug from upland

I am ready and able to begin supplying “Not My President” Buttons that can be worn wherever needed. Other styles of buttons can be made to order. If interested Freepmail me.


5 posted on 10/30/2008 2:23:38 PM PDT by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: kms61
The hardest sell of all time was Charles DeGaulle trying to convince the French that there actually was a Resistance.

Most French simply did not believe it, and those that did knew how hapless it was.

6 posted on 10/30/2008 2:27:40 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action Candidate)
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To: doug from upland

The best resistance in our society is ridicule. We should make him a constant joke like the left did W.


7 posted on 10/30/2008 2:32:01 PM PDT by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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To: All

Yes, I understand that their effectiveness was not substantial, but they put up a resistance. That is the point, and that is what we need to do. We will, of course, do it much better than the French. Our website will not have white flags.


8 posted on 10/30/2008 2:32:01 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

John Galt is going to get very nasty. In more ways than one. Count on it.


9 posted on 10/30/2008 2:33:05 PM PDT by unkus
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To: wolfcreek

I’ll let you know.


10 posted on 10/30/2008 2:37:01 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: abigkahuna

The buttons would be nice. We probably also need self defense products.


11 posted on 10/30/2008 2:38:20 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

The chair is against the wall..... John has a long mustache....


12 posted on 10/30/2008 2:44:36 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: doug from upland

With the passage of the Fairness Doctrine likely a first item of business for the Obama administration, we like the French Resistance will soon be getting our uncensored news from foreign radio broadcasts.


13 posted on 10/30/2008 2:45:29 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: doug from upland

In the spirit of the thing, I resurrect the following threads:

What good can a handgun do against an Army? Threead IV
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/659714/posts

Folks, this one speaks of the Liberator pistol, which was airdropped by the millions into France.

Repost: (+) THE ART OF THE (WEAPONS) CACHE (+)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735279/posts

What to do BEFORE they come for your guns (or even after, to have a few spares)

Tactics of the Second Amendment Rifleman Part I
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a382500833d0c.htm

TACTICS OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIFLEMAN: PART 2
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3826299a0431.htm

Our Reichstag Fire http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/629504/posts

One of the enemy’s first tactics will be to effectively eliminate the 1st Amendment - say goodbye to Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly, Savage, Michael Reagan, and the rest of talk radio. Say goodbye (possibly) to FR and many other Internet sites (at least on domestic servers). Say hello to Big Bro. The worst part of it is that Johnnie Mac was instrumental in designing and passing this thing, and it will be a key instrument of the destruction of the US if the Obamessiah gets control of the government and the naming of judges and Justices.

I URGE PEOPLE TO PRINT OUT (or copy and save to your hard drive) THESE THREADS, AND ALL OTHERS OF ANY INTEREST TO YOU. Who knows how long they will be available via mouseclick.


14 posted on 10/30/2008 2:46:04 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: doug from upland

Much thanks!


15 posted on 10/30/2008 2:46:25 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: dljordan

The chair is against the wall..... John has a long mustache....


I like it.


16 posted on 10/30/2008 2:47:30 PM PDT by unkus
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To: dljordan
The chair is against the wall..... John has a long mustache....

...and (now that John Hinckley is to be released from prison), "Barry is boffing Jodie."

17 posted on 10/30/2008 2:47:39 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: The Great RJ

I’ve got a very good SW radio from C Crane


18 posted on 10/30/2008 2:49:51 PM PDT by unkus
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To: WestCoastGal

You’ll be on the ping list.


19 posted on 10/30/2008 2:52:05 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

necessary


20 posted on 10/30/2008 2:53:46 PM PDT by fortunate sun (Hand out the arms and ammo, We're going to blast our way through here)
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To: Ancesthntr

The *rifleman* threads are already lost.


21 posted on 10/30/2008 2:54:27 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: doug from upland

Your assuming we’ll still have access to anti-Obama websites..or any websites for that matter.


22 posted on 10/30/2008 3:08:44 PM PDT by tonyinv ($)
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To: doug from upland

Resistance is a bit of a different proposition in 2008. You can’t hide in the brush.Thermal imaging will find you out. You can’t hide guns. The electronic capabilities of the government are light years beyond that which was envisioned by Orwell.


23 posted on 10/30/2008 3:12:55 PM PDT by arthurus (Old age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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To: doug from upland

thinking in terms of identifying image—of course “not my president is a liyyle obvious, but you get the drift


24 posted on 10/30/2008 3:22:37 PM PDT by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: arthurus

You make some good points.

However.

“They” can’t be everywhere, and I don’t think that Orwell envisioned 250-300 million guns owned by 85-90 million people. Even if 3% decide to resist, you’re generally talking about the best armed, most skilled and most motivated people - plus their friends and families that are willing to help them in some fashion or other.

There are also ways to defeat or degrade thermal imaging, and IR technology is available to the public (albeit at a cost).

In short, it really, really sucks if “they” target you (like in “Enemy of the State”), but a citizen that doesn’t come to anyone’s attention because he/she lies low has no such problem.

I’d advise anyone to go to the following site and study (for academic or entertainment purposes only, of course) some of the information available on the left side: http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/


25 posted on 10/30/2008 3:23:33 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: wolfcreek

Only Part I...Part II is still intact.

I have some copying and backing up to do tonight - because there are a lot more that are similar out there.


26 posted on 10/30/2008 3:47:00 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: doug from upland

27 posted on 10/30/2008 3:48:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland
Strongly suggest folks read the book excerpted by the WRSA at Neither Predator nor Prey. The author lays how, in some considerable detail, just how much work the .gov will have in subduing folks who truly do not want to be subdued and are willing to actively take care of business. NPNP is an essential addition to the RKBA/freedom canon, and a must-read in these "fast fuse" times.
28 posted on 10/30/2008 6:36:42 PM PDT by Wiekiewicz
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To: Ancesthntr

Much appreciated!


29 posted on 10/31/2008 10:10:41 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Ancesthntr

That is funny! LOL! Good idea.


30 posted on 10/31/2008 10:43:16 AM PDT by dljordan
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