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Supremes Asked to Halt Tuesday's Vote [Berg Litigation]
World Net Daily ^ | October 30, 2008 | World Net Daily

Posted on 10/30/2008 9:44:24 PM PDT by justiceseeker93

The US Supreme Court is being asked to help the nation avoid a contitutional crisis by halting Tuesday's election until Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama documents his eligibility to run for the top office in the nation.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: certifigate; constitution; duplicate; eligibility; obama; philberg; philipberg; searchworks; supremecourt
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There was a demonstration supporting Philip Berg and his case in front of the SCOTUS Building in DC on Thursday, Oct. 30, 2008.
1 posted on 10/30/2008 9:44:24 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Okay, why doesn’t he ask for something he has a chance of getting?>


2 posted on 10/30/2008 9:46:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway (Point weapons at the enemey, people)
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To: justiceseeker93

HE!! NO!


3 posted on 10/30/2008 9:46:56 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama and ITS thugs are made paranoid by Sarahnoia. (stole from molly_jack2007))
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Technically speaking, I wonder if the eligibility question can only be brought up when the electors vote, since technically speaking we aren’t voting for Obama or McCain on tuesday, only their electors.


4 posted on 10/30/2008 9:47:01 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: justiceseeker93

No way in H E doublehockeysticks the supremes will delay the election. And why should they, the commie fraud is going to lose and the bc issue will be moot.


5 posted on 10/30/2008 9:47:45 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Crimson Elephant

YES...what you said....I’ve seen that somewhere else....


6 posted on 10/30/2008 9:48:52 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Socialism is great until you run out of someone else's money (M. Thatcher))
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To: Crimson Elephant

Good point, in that, none of us vote directly for the president, just for electors. And it could be that, if the Supreme Court chose to get involved, it would be based on who the electors vote for, not who all of us ordinary citizens vote for.


7 posted on 10/30/2008 9:49:15 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: HerrBlucher
...the commie fraud is going to lose and the bc issue will be moot.

Not so fast. He's still a US Senator, and I'll bet dollars to donuts there's a clause in the Constitution about that too.

Even if there isn't, and he's allowed to continue serving in the Senate, this thing will dog him until his dying day. No way will Americans sit still for him casting votes upon their future after everything comes out on him.

8 posted on 10/30/2008 9:54:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: justiceseeker93

>”Until that time,” Surrick says, “voters do not have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring.”<

How do we not have the standing?

That statement alone is a constitutional crisis.

I’m not a constitutional expert by any stretch, but I distinctly recall the words “by the people, for the people”, which means government works for US, the voters.

I have a job interview Monday.

I’ll stammer a lot(I usually do in a job interview)offer no documentation of my identity or work history and just tell them I’ll bring change.

If they don’t hire me, I’ll sue!


9 posted on 10/30/2008 9:57:18 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope -n- Che'nge is the battle cry of the zombies.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Hmmmmm I know this is foolishly simple, but there would be no need for even considering a delay if Obama would just present it. Problem solved.....crisis avoided. Could the SCOTUS demand he produce it?

It seems they should surely anticipate the ensuing chaos that would follow the election of an ineligible person and make it easier on themselves as well as the country by taking care of it now.


10 posted on 10/30/2008 9:57:51 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: nickcarraway
Okay, why doesn't he ask for something he has a chance of getting.

The more publicity the issue of Obama's eligibility status and citizenship status get, the more people in the electorate will be educated about it, and, hopefully, the more people will say NO to Obama when they vote. Not a bad strategy by Berg, IMHO.

I believe that FOX News covered the demonstration today.

11 posted on 10/30/2008 9:59:33 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: HerrBlucher
...the commie fraud is going to lose and the bc issue will be moot.

Let's hope you're right.

12 posted on 10/30/2008 10:02:14 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

This whole thing makes no sense to me. You can’t get a passport without presenting a birth cerificate...I would think the requirements for the presidency would be just as important. And it’s so easy to do. THIS MAKES NO SENSE.


13 posted on 10/30/2008 10:02:20 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

This whole thing makes no sense to me. You can’t get a passport without presenting a birth cerificate...I would think the requirements for the presidency would be just as important. And it’s so easy to do. THIS MAKES NO SENSE.


14 posted on 10/30/2008 10:02:24 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Windflier

Good points. Bambi and his cruddy commie cohorts need to be humiliated into oblivion.


15 posted on 10/30/2008 10:02:27 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Califreak
How do we not have the standing?

If I were the judge, I would rule that Berg has standing. But then again, the judge who ruled on it was appointed by Clinton and has his own agenda. There was a case earlier in the year brought by a citizen in NH (questioning McCain's constitutional eligibility) and it was dismissed on the same ground - lack of standing. That earlier case was a bad precedent for this one.

16 posted on 10/30/2008 10:09:00 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

The courts have already ruled that Berg doesn’t ahve standing, but there is a move underway to bring some candidates for the Electoral College to belisted as plaintiffs. Being a listed cnadidate for Elector mightgive one standing. (Hey, it’s worth a try, right?)


17 posted on 10/30/2008 10:09:18 PM PDT by TBP
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To: justiceseeker93

BUMP!


19 posted on 10/30/2008 10:11:05 PM PDT by txhurl (WELCOME PUMAS TO FREEREPUBLIC! PARTY UNITY MY ASS!)
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To: Windflier
"He's still a US Senator, and I'll bet dollars to donuts there's a clause in the Constitution about that too."

Nope.

20 posted on 10/30/2008 10:12:01 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of The Free Because of The Brave)
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To: Hildy
THIS MAKES NO SENSE.

It makes perfect sense on Obama's part to do anything he can to hide his place of birth if in fact he was born in Kenya and is therefore constitutionally ineligible to serve as POTUS.

21 posted on 10/30/2008 10:12:45 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

McCain is different though.

Wasn’t he born on a base to American citizens?


22 posted on 10/30/2008 10:13:49 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope -n- Che'nge is the battle cry of the zombies.)
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To: Hildy

I agree. It also makes no sense that it hasn’t been presented if it exists. This whole flap would disappear in an instant.

Wouldn’t you love to know how their sitting atop auntie in the slums? One slip of her lip and Obama’s world could spin out of control.


23 posted on 10/30/2008 10:16:45 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Hildy

“This whole thing makes no sense to me. You can’t get a passport without presenting a birth cerificate”

According to Berg’s interview on Michael Savage last week, it’s not certain that The Zero has a U.S. passport. When he made his European trip this past summer, he might have been traveling on a “Diplomatic Passport.” I don’t know what the requirements are for obtaining one of those.


24 posted on 10/30/2008 10:16:47 PM PDT by GoodDay (McCain-Palin '08)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; Windflier
Yes, there are constitutional provisions regarding qualifications for the Senate. Senators must be at least 30 years of age, be citizens of the United States for at least nine years, and be residents of the state they represent at the time of their election. A major difference is that the POTUS must be a natural born citizen, whereas a Senator could possibly be a naturalized citizen.
25 posted on 10/30/2008 10:19:36 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

Of course, Berg could always release his secret weapon: he’s boasted several times that he has a tape of The Zero’s paternal grandmather in Kenya admitting in a phone conversation that he was born in Kenya and that she witnessed the birth.

Didn’t Berg claim early last week that he would release this tape “in a few days”?


26 posted on 10/30/2008 10:19:40 PM PDT by GoodDay (McCain-Palin '08)
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To: Califreak

Yes, McCain was born on American soil (Panama Canal Zone) to two American citizens.


27 posted on 10/30/2008 10:21:12 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Windflier

You’re not understanding the issue. Any citizen of age can be a US Senator, but NOT any citizen of age can be a President.

You have to be a “natural-born” citizen, which has a highly specific definition, that Obama appears to possibly fall short of, due to his non-citizen father, his mother being a minor, and the possibility that he was not born in the US. There are witnesses (family members) that say he was born in Kenya, there are no witnesses to vouch for his being born in the US, and he has sent lawyers into Federal Court to argue that he doesn’t need to show his birth certificate.


28 posted on 10/30/2008 10:22:59 PM PDT by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the clarification of the eligibility requirements for US Senate vs President.

By now, we’re all familiar with the “natural born citizen” requirement for the Presidency, but the Senate requirements haven’t been discussed much. Yet.


29 posted on 10/30/2008 10:23:05 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cookcounty
You’re not understanding the issue.

Not true, Cook. I'm completely aware of the eligibility requirements for President of the US. Obama seems to be the one who doesn't get it.

30 posted on 10/30/2008 10:25:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Califreak
How do we not have the standing?

That statement alone is a constitutional crisis.

Just think of us citizens as Al Bundy--pay all the bills and get no respect.

31 posted on 10/30/2008 10:26:24 PM PDT by rvoitier
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Per JusticeSeeker93 in post 93 of this thread:

Yes, there are constitutional provisions regarding qualifications for the Senate. Senators must be at least 30 years of age, be citizens of the United States for at least nine years, and be residents of the state they represent at the time of their election.

32 posted on 10/30/2008 10:27:37 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: HerrBlucher
Bambi and his cruddy commie cohorts need to be humiliated into oblivion.

I'd prefer to see them humiliated into a federal penitentiary.

33 posted on 10/30/2008 10:29:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GoodDay
Didn’t Berg claim early last week that he would release this tape “in a few days”?

Oh, I hadn't heard that. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I have this feeling that something is about to blow on one of the many unanswered questions.

Despite anything they pretend, the Clinton's don't want Obama elected. He's the fly in the ointment they hadn't figured on and Hillary's ambitions didn't die with her primary loss.

Since Berg is associated with Bill and Hill, who knows? If not this, maybe the Khalidi thing will burst. That may also have Clinton fingerprints on it.

34 posted on 10/30/2008 10:32:21 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: justiceseeker93; Windflier

Windflier commented that the citizenship requirements for senator were probably like that of POTUS. As you have pointed out, they are not and, knowing that, I commented “nope”.


35 posted on 10/30/2008 10:33:47 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of The Free Because of The Brave)
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To: justiceseeker93

More arrogance from nObama.

He’s convinced he’s nobility.

nObama has raised he middle finger to Berg, the courts and us.

“Catch me if you can.”

Who has the responsibility of vetting candidates in this way for political office?


36 posted on 10/30/2008 10:34:21 PM PDT by upchuck (Law of Logical Argument: Anything's possible if you don't know what you're talking about. => nObama))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It gets much more complicated in each state determining who the electors are.


37 posted on 10/30/2008 10:36:53 PM PDT by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Even if he would qualify as a Senator, wouldn’t perpetuating such a massive fraud on America be a crime? Maybe he could finish his term from prison.


38 posted on 10/30/2008 10:39:21 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: HerrBlucher

I agree; they won’t delay the election, and I think that McCain will win, but for AFTER the election, this should be pursued (as he’ll still be a Senator).


39 posted on 10/30/2008 10:40:42 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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To: Hildy

It was passed early on as BS, but why doesn’t he just present it? HE’S TRYING TO BE PRESIDENT OF AMERICA! Hell I gave mine to the State Department to get a passport. Screw Hawaii, sue the damn State Department for his BC.


40 posted on 10/30/2008 10:42:33 PM PDT by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Windflier commented that the citizenship requirements for senator were probably like that of POTUS.

Now, now, now. I never said that. What I said is that, "I'll bet dollars to donuts that there's a clause in the Constitution about that too."

Even without knowing the exact statute, I'd already guessed that the eligibility requirements would probably be different - but that there would probably be something in the Constitution referring to a Senator's eligibility in relation to his citizenship status.

It turns out that there is, although it's not nearly as strict as that for the office of President.

41 posted on 10/30/2008 10:43:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: nickcarraway
why doesn’t he ask for something he has a chance of getting?

I think this has more to do with getting the issue before the nation's eyes at this time. ;)
As we all know the MSM will bury and cushion OB from all issues.

I just heard Obama stumping, "They will throw everything at us..."; you betcha, gotta finally get ALL this stuff out there in the open OVER bambi's lame-stream media buds' pin-heads!! WE GOTTA (and deserve) KNOW. Who is BARACK OBAMA? WHAT IS HE HIDING?

For example:
"Why did Obama refused to release 14 pertinent documents? Why won’t he release his medical, Columbia thesis record, Harvard College records, Illinois State Senate record, Certified Copy of original Birth certificate , Harvard Law Review articles published. Did he write about socialistic ideas? Obama has yet to release information on more than 80% of his contributors." (excerpt from: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2120429/posts)

Continue to get out the info via any contacts you can! Round up the kids, grandparents, moms, dads, neighbors, and GOTV!!!
42 posted on 10/30/2008 10:53:20 PM PDT by wubjo (nO Terrorists; nO Tyranny; nObama)
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To: justiceseeker93
Yes, McCain was born on American soil (Panama Canal Zone) to two American citizens.

Wrong. He was born in Colon, in the Republic of Panama, in a civilian hospital.

43 posted on 10/30/2008 10:58:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tell us again why you thought the "lesser of two evils" would lead you somewhere other than to hell?)
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To: upchuck
Who has the responsibility for vetting candidates in this way for political office?

Prmarily, it's the responsibility of the party organization which nominates its candidate. That's why the DNC is a defendant in Berg's suit.

If the party organization attempts to place a constitutionally ineligible candidate on the ballot in each state, the view of many is that the secretaries of state of the various states (or whatever state official or state agency has authority to conduct elections) have responsibility to correct the error of the party organization. Remember that a presidential election is actually 51 separate elections - one in each state and one in DC.

44 posted on 10/30/2008 11:01:13 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

Problem solved.....crisis avoided.
***One might expect that from someone who loves this country. Unfortunately, your foolishly simple notion is misguided due to that false assumption.


45 posted on 10/30/2008 11:05:47 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: Hildy

Well, if you worked in the State Dept and were asked by a black U.S. Senator to issuue a passport, do you think you’d be inclined to issue one?...Especially if you were a Democrat and many of your superiors were Democrats?..and more especially if he applied through an office in Chicago/Cook County ?

He could flash an old college exam as a ‘birth certificate’ and probably that would suffice...


46 posted on 10/30/2008 11:07:32 PM PDT by billmor (JoObama- Choice of the Marxists, Hamas and Jihadists.....Vote McCain/Palin)
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To: justiceseeker93
51 separate elections

I thought it was 57 :)

Seriously, thanks for the info.

47 posted on 10/30/2008 11:09:04 PM PDT by upchuck (Law of Logical Argument: Anything's possible if you don't know what you're talking about. => nObama))
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To: justiceseeker93

It’d be more rewarding to impeach and remove Obama if he wins.


48 posted on 10/30/2008 11:09:43 PM PDT by Dagny&Hank
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To: justiceseeker93
This is going NOWHERE. After the election, maybe a competent case can be filed. And possibly won.

Congressman Billybob

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49 posted on 10/30/2008 11:11:42 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: justiceseeker93

The Constitution says one is not “eligible”, so I do not believe SCOTUS would act on this until he is elected (which I don’t believe is going to happen) if at all.


50 posted on 10/30/2008 11:35:11 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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