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Obama On Low Taxes: “Selfishness”
hotair.com ^ | October 31, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 10/31/2008 11:00:03 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Barack Obama gave John McCain another pre-Election Day gift this morning in remarks made to a Sarasota, Florida audience. After telling Joe the Plumber in Ohio that he wants government to “spread the wealth,” Obama told Floridians that opposition to such policies amounted to “selfishness”:

“The point is, though, that — and it’s not just charity, it’s not just that I want to help the middle class and working people who are trying to get in the middle class — it’s that when we actually make sure that everybody’s got a shot – when young people can all go to college, when everybody’s got decent health care, when everybody’s got a little more money at the end of the month – then guess what? Everybody starts spending that money, they decide maybe I can afford a new car, maybe I can afford a computer for my child. They can buy the products and services that businesses are selling and everybody is better off. All boats rise. That’s what happened in the 1990s, that’s what we need to restore. And that’s what I’m gonna do as president of the United States of America.

“John McCain and Sarah Palin they call this socialistic,” Obama continued. “You know I don’t know when, when they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness.”

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1 posted on 10/31/2008 11:00:04 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

By the end of an Obama presidency, we will all be searching the couch for coins.


2 posted on 10/31/2008 11:01:26 AM PDT by wac3rd (Conservatives are not always Republicans...and vice-versa.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not being a tax-mad socialist is being selfish. Expecting to keep what YOU MAKE is being selfish. Not feeding a massive welfare state that empowers give-away socialists, is SELFISH.


3 posted on 10/31/2008 11:02:35 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: wac3rd

Line up 10 people.

Give each $1 Million a year for 10 years.

Doesn anyone believe that the 10 people will have $10 Million after 10 years?

Obama does.


4 posted on 10/31/2008 11:03:44 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama is not qualified for the FBI, but he is qualified for the Presidency????)
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To: EagleUSA

As a matter of fact, Barack.....

5 posted on 10/31/2008 11:04:22 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"when young people can all go to college///"

Hey Obama, you want to pay for everyone to go to college because that will make them better off? Will you support vouchers to let them go to schools that aren't rotten? No? Hmm. Guess those parents in the inner cities are just selfish for wanting their kids to have a chance.

6 posted on 10/31/2008 11:04:34 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Obama will have $100,000,000 after those 10 years.

It angers me that he calls us selfish but look who is so selfish to charity giving. He thinks we are selfish not to let him redistribute our money. Who is really selfish?


7 posted on 10/31/2008 11:07:09 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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What a stupid thing to say right before an election


8 posted on 10/31/2008 11:07:37 AM PDT by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
All boats rise.

It will be impossible for boats to rise when you make the seas start declining.

That's what you said when you locked up the nomination, Barack.

You can't have it both ways!

9 posted on 10/31/2008 11:08:08 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (McCain is Lucy, McCainiacs are Charlie Brown, & the football was a secure border...before Sarah.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe I just haven’t had enough caffeine yet, coupled with the fact that taxes are not my area of expertise but...

It seems like on one hand Biden is saying it’s “patriotic” to pay higher taxes, then you have Obama saying he would lower taxes but if you want lower taxes you are “selfish.”


10 posted on 10/31/2008 11:08:11 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I believe Obi has become so arrogant and cocksure that it’s to the point where he’s actually mocking his own supporters. Think about it. He knows what he is (a hard core Marxist) and he knows he’s fooled them about it. So he stands up before his sycophants and says “oooh, they’ll call me a communist, oooh”, knowing full well that the idiots will laugh it off! He makes them the butt of his joke, to their faces, knowing full well they are too stupid to realize.... YES HE IS A COMMUNIST!


11 posted on 10/31/2008 11:08:47 AM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

You beat me to it. Though if Obama or his minions even touched that book, they would melt away like the Wicked Witch of the West. ;)


12 posted on 10/31/2008 11:08:50 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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What a stupid thing to say right before an election


13 posted on 10/31/2008 11:09:17 AM PDT by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
then guess what? Everybody starts spending that money, they decide maybe I can afford a new car, maybe I can afford a computer for my child. They can buy the products and services that businesses are selling and everybody is better off. All boats rise.

Trickle-up economics.

In fact, when no employers are hiring because their taxes are too high, no one's boats are going anywhere. Except straight down.

14 posted on 10/31/2008 11:09:29 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"-Shelby Steele)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
No one would have accused blacks sneaking north across the Ohio River to freedom in the 1850s of being selfish because they did not desire to involuntarily trade their labor for a small shack and enough food to keep them alive. Well, no one except for the plantation owners and their pet politicians.

My life and my labor are my own. Even if 99% of the country votes to chain themselves to the State does not give them the right to chain me too.

15 posted on 10/31/2008 11:09:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama: Spread the Wealth = Marx: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs)
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To: denydenydeny
In fact, when no employers are hiring because their taxes are too high, no one's boats are going anywhere. Except straight down.

Obamanomics: If you punch some holes in the bottom of the big yacht so it sinks, the water level will rise for all the little boats.

16 posted on 10/31/2008 11:12:10 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama: Spread the Wealth = Marx: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
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17 posted on 10/31/2008 11:12:10 AM PDT by Son House (McCain Can Win Without The Media's Help, Øbama can't)
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To: All

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V3FNh3mAuY


18 posted on 10/31/2008 11:12:58 AM PDT by GOPinCa (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

Six and seven figure incomes and these hypocrites barely make a dent in bona fide charitable contributions.

The most selfish couple on the face of the earth . . . that would try to divide and conquer yet not share their own affirmative action’d “earned” wealth with the truly destitute.

That tells me all I need to know about who these people really are. It’s all about there, always has been, always will be.

Wake up America.


19 posted on 10/31/2008 11:13:10 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sorry BO but wanting to keep the money we earn for hard work is not selfish, it’s called capitalism. You ought to try it sometimes since you’ve never really held a job that wan’t just handed to you.


20 posted on 10/31/2008 11:13:23 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: GOPinCa

ABC has picked this up too: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obamas-new-atta.html


21 posted on 10/31/2008 11:16:09 AM PDT by GOPinCa (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Pot calling kettle black...

he’s the one with a brother in a mud hut.. and an aunt in southie..


22 posted on 10/31/2008 11:16:53 AM PDT by outlawjake
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To: Free ThinkerNY
when young people can all go to college

Hey, Barry, are you going to buck the NEA and fix primary and secondary education so the kids are READY to go to college???

23 posted on 10/31/2008 11:17:14 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Colin, descending)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All

24 posted on 10/31/2008 11:17:15 AM PDT by musicman (Sarah Palin Runs A STATE - Barack Obama Runs His MOUTH)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
" Obama continued. “You know I don’t know when, when they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness.”"

Easy come easy go. If you want a man to eat for life you teach him to fish, you don't feed him like a helpless baby bird in a nest for life unless you want to cripple him and make him dependent.

25 posted on 10/31/2008 11:17:58 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Though if Obama or his minions even touched that book, they would melt away like the Wicked Witch of the West. ;)

If I thought that would work, I'd buy up a full printing and Fed-Ex it to them.

26 posted on 10/31/2008 11:18:38 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: EagleUSA

I always have a fire-back for socialists that accuse conservatives of being selfish -

“Which is more selfish, wanting to keep more of what you yourself earned, or using the gov’t to confiscate what someone else earned?”


27 posted on 10/31/2008 11:19:07 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Earthdweller

Exactly right. The socialists think they are helping people when in fact they are crippling them. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.


28 posted on 10/31/2008 11:20:50 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Up on Drudge now!


29 posted on 10/31/2008 11:22:43 AM PDT by GOPinCa (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
– when young people can all go to college, when everybody’s got decent health care, when everybody’s got a little more money at the end of the month – then guess what?

Then this Harvard Law grad cannot distinguish wishful thinking from reality --that's what.

This is the kind of dewy-eyed thinking I'd expect from an eighteen-year-old psych major, not a grown man.

OK, maybe I'd expect this kind of thinking from a grown man who's never worked an honest job.

30 posted on 10/31/2008 11:24:16 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: andy58-in-nh

With all due respect to Ayn, I don’t think she ever read any Aristotle.


31 posted on 10/31/2008 11:25:25 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Freedom means picking and choosing your charity.

Bondage means being forced by gun point/jail to have income extracted for the purpose of contributing to a wasteful bureaucracy and meeting the basic needs of SELFISH and irresponsible individuals.

Good government means taxing “the people” strictly for the purposes of which is enumerated in the Constitution (Sorry, the founders idea of the general welfare clause is vastly different from today's misguided interpretation).

Obama is promoting a repressive State and tyranny, now that is what I call selfish.

32 posted on 10/31/2008 11:25:28 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: EagleUSA

I am a small business owner. Every time I pay myself $10,000, I have to pay the state and the feds almost $8,000. According to Obama, my reluctance to pay even more is selfish. However, also according to Obama, the desire of his supporters, many of whom pay the state and the feds little or nothing, that I pay more so they can get more is not selfish. Something does not compute here


33 posted on 10/31/2008 11:26:16 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The socialist argument fails to realize that the inability of some to grab the “brass ring” is a MOTIVATION issue, not a money issue. Giving them more money for nothing exacerbates the problem.

When Democrats realized they were losing the civil rights battle, they created welfare which in the end produces the same result - oppressed peoples, The One calls them.


34 posted on 10/31/2008 11:27:58 AM PDT by IamConservative (On 11/4, remember 9/11...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yes, he’s a scary blood sucker~!


35 posted on 10/31/2008 11:28:27 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Obama's Marxism--Chains you can believe in)
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To: wac3rd

“By the end of an Obama presidency, we will all be searching the couch for coins”

And rummaging in the trash for pizza.


36 posted on 10/31/2008 11:29:12 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: GOPinCa
ABC has picked this up too

Shocking. The comments posted are even shockier.

Keep yapping Obama.

37 posted on 10/31/2008 11:30:29 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wow-I thought he had run out of insults for us McCain supporters and here he comes up with another one for the list.

Racist
Uneducated
Bitter
Racist
Clings to guns
Clings to religion
Racist
now I am also “selfish”
Oh, and racist

I’m sure I forgot a few in there. This is his idea of unifying the country? What a complete joke just on the face of it.


38 posted on 10/31/2008 11:31:55 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Aquinasfan

Well, she did seem to understand the primacy of existence and the law of identity pretty well.


39 posted on 10/31/2008 11:32:29 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: wac3rd
By the end of an Obama presidency, we will all be searching the couch for coins.

That's the only change you can believe in.

40 posted on 10/31/2008 11:33:07 AM PDT by sanchmo
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To: wac3rd
“John McCain and Sarah Palin they call this socialistic,” Obama continued. “You know I don’t know when, when they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness.”

Listen, you thieving socialist SOB, my wife and I paid $55,000 in Federal taxes alone last year. That's probably enough to keep one of your useless supporters in malt liquor, Section 8 housing and cigarettes for the entire year. So, who's the selfish one, you jackass- those of us who are already paying a grossly disproportionate share of taxes in this country, or your supporters who pay little, if anything into the treasury, and still have their lazy hands out demanding "More! More!"

41 posted on 10/31/2008 11:34:31 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"All boats rise. That’s what happened in the 1990s,"

You Obama-assclown! I was paying amost 8% on my 30 year fixed mortgate in the 1990s. I now pay only 6%. Under Bush I was able to refi to 6% and saved some $80K on the life of my mortgage. And back then I only made about 1/3 of what I make today and the income tax rates were higher so my take home pay per dollar was less.

Stay away from my wallet you frikin' radical Marxist. If you want to bring people up the latter then take a stick to them and beat the lazy mules until they get out of bed and head for a J-O-B!

42 posted on 10/31/2008 11:37:51 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BIDEN IS SELFISH!

$2,500,000 earnings.
$0,003,600 given to charity.

That’s just over .1%

LIberals are so generous with my money, not their own.


43 posted on 10/31/2008 11:39:00 AM PDT by Tigercap (If 0bama had the experience of Palin, he too might be qualified to run for VP of the USA)
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To: GOPinCa

PING


44 posted on 10/31/2008 11:40:02 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
I went through a Rand phase when I was in my 20s, so I can honestly tell you that I've read most of her books. I know that she practically claimed to be an Aristotle scholar. But in her books, there is very little evidence to support that claim.

I will, however, give her credit for introducing me to metaphysics, Aristotle, and even Aquinas.

For anyone who's interested in Aristotle or Aquinas' synthesis of Aristotelianism and Christian theology, I cannot recommend highly enough this little website.

It's the most concise and powerful introduction to Aristotelian/Scholastic thinking that I've found. It certainly helped me to clarify my own thinking.

45 posted on 10/31/2008 11:43:07 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yep. This is from the man who lives rich while letting his favorite aunt living in a housing project.


46 posted on 10/31/2008 11:43:35 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: pepsi_junkie

“when young people can all go to college///”

Which is when the advantages of going to college disappear, because there would be no differentiation. College - if it has not already - would become the new high school.

America - in particular liberals - need to face the fact that not every individual is college material. It’s incontrovertible that there are innate differences in intelligence, inbred differences in work ethic, and vast differences (inbred) of motivation.


47 posted on 10/31/2008 11:48:12 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America)
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To: Aquinasfan

You hit the nail on its head. Obama is not a “grown man” in the traditional sense in America. He has never held a real job in the private sector where he was accountable for a bottom line of productivity. The lecturer slot at UC Law and the apprenticeship at the middling Chicago law firm don’t count. He is the definition of a narcissist. Coupled with his lack of critical thinking abilities, he is dangerous.


48 posted on 10/31/2008 11:53:04 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America)
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To: Aquinasfan
I studied philosophy in college too, and went through an Objectivist phase in my late teens and 20s, as seems a common experience for many. The interesting thing about Rand's work for me is that as time goes by, I see increasing evidence that she was fundamentally right about the nature of man and the economic principles that must obtain for a society to be successful and free. Thanks for the website link. I've added it to the list of places I'd like to go for a while to escape the sturm und drang of politics.
49 posted on 10/31/2008 11:53:29 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: Citizen Blade

Dude, I feel for you. My wife and I paid > $111,000 last year, and we’re selfish? We give substantial amounts to our church, the VFW, a local mission, Easter Seals, and so forth. My wife works 60-80 hours a week, I am gone from home 12 hours daily. But, we’re not “working Americans” according to Barack Obama. Sure, we do well, but we got there the old fashioned way, with no handouts and, unlike the Obamas, no Affirmative Action.

My contempt and hatred for Barack Obama grow by the minute.


50 posted on 10/31/2008 11:58:19 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America)
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