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Will This Election Be Stolen? (#2)
Wall Street Journal ^ | NOVEMBER 1, 2008 | HANS A. VON SPAKOVSKY

Posted on 11/01/2008 6:22:14 AM PDT by vietvet67

In 1742, riots broke out in Philadelphia on Election Day over claims that German immigrants were being used to illegally increase vote totals. George Washington won a race for the Virginia House of Burgesses after buying gallons of liquor for voters; by contrast, James Madison refused to engage in this common practice and lost his election.

New York City was infamous for ballot stuffing throughout the 1800s. In 1844, for example, 135% of the eligible voters turned out to vote. William "Boss" Tweed's ability to steal elections in New York through the Tammany Hall machine was rivaled only by Mayor Richard J. Daley's Chicago operations in the latter half of the 20th century, although other cities had corrupt vote-stealing machines. Tammany Hall delivered fraudulent votes by buying them, through intimidation, by sending individuals from precinct to precinct to vote, and by using illegal aliens, fictitious voters and ineligible penitentiary inmates to cast ballots.

America is the most successful experiment in democracy that history has ever seen. Under the Constitution, Americans choose their leaders and legislative representatives, including federal, state, county and local governments. But when they vote Tuesday, will their votes be counted fairly? Or will ballots be canceled or diluted by fraudulent votes cast by the dead, noncitizens, fictitious voters, or individuals voting more than once?

We have allegations that almost a third of the 1.3 million registrations submitted by community organizer Acorn (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) are fraudulent. Not only do these bogus registrations slow down the ability of election officials to process the registrations of legitimate voters, but they severely limit the ability of election officials to verify new voters' registration information, because officials are overwhelmed by the sheer number of problem registrations.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ratcrime

1 posted on 11/01/2008 6:22:14 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67

Well, I sure hope so.


2 posted on 11/01/2008 6:25:49 AM PDT by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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To: vietvet67
Photo ID for registration, photo ID for voting, purple ink on the finger after voting.
Why are we even talking about this?
3 posted on 11/01/2008 6:26:53 AM PDT by Infidel Puppy
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To: vietvet67

They need to make the system more safe and secure. I’ve read articles describing better systems.

Good to see the Wall Street Journal speaking about this: but this might mean big potential trouble as many of us have thought as well.

I’ve no problems at all with whatever proof they need of me for voting, the problem isn’t much in this ‘burb though as other places.


4 posted on 11/01/2008 6:27:24 AM PDT by RGPII (No O-Bortions.)
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To: vietvet67

It won’t be stolen but the current situation gives cover to the Democrats to claim so if they lose. The better to whip up class resentment.


5 posted on 11/01/2008 6:30:24 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: RGPII

Where I live in Wisconsin election fraud is rampant. Our rat governor has twice vetoed a law which would require voters to present a photo ID. The identification standards are laughable, and the democrats take full advantage of that.

If you live anywhere near WI and would like to help us stop fraud on election day, FReepmail me.


6 posted on 11/01/2008 6:32:45 AM PDT by LouD
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To: Infidel Puppy

“Photo ID for registration, photo ID for voting, purple ink on the finger after voting.
Why are we even talking about this?”

You are EXACTLY right. It’s NOT that HARD, people! Why can’t SOMEBODY get this straight???

I suppose, to answer my own question, that the powers that be do NOT WANT it gotten straight.


7 posted on 11/01/2008 6:36:26 AM PDT by J40000
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To: Infidel Puppy

It’s unfortunate we have to consider ways to combat voter fraud, a la Chicago style corruption. But we now live in a world of ACORN, and liberal Americans believe that any proof of identity is an attempt to prevent votes. I see voter identity checks as a way to preserve the integrity of US elections. One person, one vote.

I’m hope you agree, and welcome to Free Republic!

John McCain and Sarah Palin are on their way to being elected despite the corrupt intentions of our opposition.


8 posted on 11/01/2008 6:43:44 AM PDT by BAW (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: vietvet67
When I went in to vote a few days ago, the officials were arguing about what ID, if any, they were supposed to ask for. Mr. Journey came in from voting yesterday disgusted they were still confused.
9 posted on 11/01/2008 6:44:37 AM PDT by itsthejourney (1 of every 10 people you pass in the mall is here illegally... including Aunt Zeituni)
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To: vietvet67
FWIW:
In Montana in the late 1800’s William Clark ran for senate. He offered up to $5,000 for people to vote for him (Butte Copper Mine money). He won. His enemy, a man named Dailey had Clark prosecuted.

Clark took his seat December 4, 1899, and vacated his seat on May 15, 1900, before a resolution declaring his election void because of election fraud could be adopted. Dailey died and Clark was again elected as a Democrat to the United States Senate in 1901, and served from March 4, 1901, to March 3, 1907.

After he retired from the senate he built a rail line from Salt Lake City to LA. He needed a town as a midway stop so there is now a town in Clark County, NV called Las Vegas. Created by a senator who had to leave office due to vote fraud...and was reelected one year later.

William Clark (D).

10 posted on 11/01/2008 6:51:09 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: vietvet67; Kaslin; mnehrling; Fred Nerks; Tax-chick; neverdem
*PING*

George Washington won a race for the Virginia House of Burgesses after buying gallons of liquor for voters; by contrast, James Madison refused to engage in this common practice and lost his election.

See, there's historical precedent.

Let's get some of the Chambers of Commerce to sponsor all-night keggers in college towns across the country starting the evening before election day, and continuing until the polls close!

Cheers!

11 posted on 11/01/2008 6:56:20 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Leo Farnsworth

Back then, Senators were elected by the legislature, so that was an example of a rich Democrat bribing state legislators. Every member that took the bribe should’ve been expelled and imprisoned.


12 posted on 11/01/2008 6:57:03 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: BAW
I’m hope you agree, and welcome to Free Republic!

John McCain and Sarah Palin are on their way to being elected despite the corrupt intentions of our opposition.


Thanks BAW, I do agree. And the amazing thing about the impending Palin/McWhoever win is that despite *massive* voter fraud, one-sided press coverage, and basically unlimited illegal campaign funds opposing them, the Hot Librarian and what's-his-name are still going to win. I suspect when the final numbers come in, what we will see is a landslide that was stolen into a narrow victory. But a victory nonetheless.
13 posted on 11/01/2008 7:04:19 AM PDT by Infidel Puppy
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To: vietvet67
George Washington won a race for the Virginia House of Burgesses after buying gallons of liquor for voters

Unfortunately, many of the licquored up voters still voted incorrectly.

14 posted on 11/01/2008 7:06:29 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Let’s get some of the Chambers of Commerce to sponsor all-night keggers in college towns across the country starting the evening before election day, and continuing until the polls close!”

And then we could give each of the underage drinkers a citation for Consumption of Alcohol by a Minor to recoup the cost of the beer and voting apparatus! I envision a Charlie Foxtrot of major proportions if ya just get a little creative!


15 posted on 11/01/2008 7:12:40 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Infidel Puppy

A win is a win, and for four years we gain the ability to hold off socialism with veto power and influence.

Hey, I just read today in the NY POst that Sarah has a photographic memory. Now, that is a useful tidbit to throw out in political chatter with friends!!!


16 posted on 11/01/2008 7:16:55 AM PDT by BAW (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: grey_whiskers

James Madison was a bore. And most college students are too young to drink legally; all the Chambers of Commerce would end up in jail for contributing to the delinquency of minors. (And it would serve the jerks in Monroe right.)


17 posted on 11/01/2008 7:19:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: Infidel Puppy
Photo ID for registration, photo ID for voting, purple ink on the finger after voting.
Why are we even talking about this?

That's exactly right. And perhaps a public hanging of those proven to have fraudulently voted.

18 posted on 11/01/2008 7:25:32 AM PDT by meyer (The second amendment is NOT about hunting)
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To: Tax-chick
What's the drinking age there?

And aren't there plenty of non-traditional students (in their 20's) and grad students and other hangers-on who would end up too hung over to vote?

Cheers!

19 posted on 11/01/2008 7:26:48 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

The non-traditional students probably have jobs and vote Republican. Grad students are definitely better off comatose!


20 posted on 11/01/2008 7:28:38 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: meyer
Photo ID for registration, photo ID for voting, purple ink on the finger after voting.
Why are we even talking about this?

That's exactly right. And perhaps a public hanging of those proven to have fraudulently voted.


Totally agree. Nothing says "Be honest" like swinging a few liars:


Three of the 19 camp guards tried and convicted by a general military court at Dachau
21 posted on 11/01/2008 7:46:13 AM PDT by Infidel Puppy
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To: BAW
Hey, I just read today in the NY POst that Sarah has a photographic memory.

I have a photographic memory of Sarah:


22 posted on 11/01/2008 8:07:20 AM PDT by Infidel Puppy
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To: Monkey Face

ping to #10


23 posted on 11/01/2008 9:29:07 AM PDT by sionnsar (Obama?Bye-den!|Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/)
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To: Infidel Puppy; sionnsar
Photo ID for registration, photo ID for voting, purple ink on the finger after voting.
Why are we even talking about this?

It seems to me that if a person is honest, he wouldn't mind photo ID for registration and/or voting, nor would he mind a purple finger AFTER voting. I'm sure it would eliminate a lot of bogus votes.

24 posted on 11/01/2008 9:43:51 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Consciousness ~~ that annoying time between naps.)
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To: Leo Farnsworth; sionnsar

Only in Las Vegas!


25 posted on 11/01/2008 9:45:29 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Consciousness ~~ that annoying time between naps.)
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To: Leo Farnsworth

Disgusting.


26 posted on 11/01/2008 9:46:25 AM PDT by Impy (Democrats, don't forget to vote on Wednesday!!!)
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To: vietvet67

....only if We the People are careless enough to let it happen....


27 posted on 11/01/2008 9:48:29 AM PDT by mo
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To: Monkey Face

It does seem so obvious that it shouldn’t need to be mentioned.


28 posted on 11/01/2008 9:52:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: Tax-chick

True, but some people just don’t get it.

They’re the same ones who object to cameras at intersections to monitor traffic. Most likely because they run a lot of red lights.


29 posted on 11/01/2008 9:59:02 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Consciousness ~~ that annoying time between naps.)
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To: vietvet67

Not to mention all those machines being reported flipping votes from McCain to 0bama. This has the potential to be WAY huger than voter fraud.

If you wanted to steal an election, would you rather have people running around to different precincts pretending to be other/fake/dead people, or would you rather just hack into the place all the voting machines send their data and set up the totals the way you like?

It’s the crappy election machines that seem to mysteriously “go out of calibration” and leave no paper trail. Dems love to hack, I can see them breaking into these poorly secured machines and switching vote totals.


30 posted on 11/01/2008 10:19:29 AM PDT by RIghtNowAndAlways (Sarah in '12!)
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To: RIghtNowAndAlways

The only way Obama wins is through voter fraud.


31 posted on 11/01/2008 10:20:17 AM PDT by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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