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OBAMA AND HIS SCARY NATIONAL SECURITY VISION - QUICK IMPRESSIONS
1 November 2008 | Andrew Roman

Posted on 11/01/2008 8:20:40 PM PDT by andrew roman

If I shake my head anymore, the hair will fall out of the follicles. No one in recent memory – including the masterfully slick William J. Clinton - has been able to suspend all the parameters of human disbelief as much as Senator Government has. The idea that so many people in this country are poised to vote for Barack Obama in three days - and already have in early balloting – despite the constant stream of forbidding propositions and promises that soar from his campaign-weary sliver tongue onto the worshipping throngs, is enough to make me want to return to the golden age of more palatable dregs – like Hillary Clinton speaking “black” in a Harlem church, Roseanne Barr singing the National Anthem, or fingernails on Rosie O’Donnel.

To even ask this question anymore is an exercise in impotence– if not redundancy - but what the hell is Senator Obama talking about? And what country does he think this is?

Recently, “The One” made the following statement:

We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.

You can see the video here..

You truly cannot make this stuff up.

Let me, for a moment, take what he said at face value.

On one hand, I could see myself agreeing with him. The national security objectives he has set - which involve sitting down unconditionally with despotic leaders and supporters of terrorism, as well as announcing to our enemies a withdrawal date from Iraq that can be marked on Al Qaeda refrigerator calendars everywhere - cannot be achieved using just the military. That’s because national security – to the Obamacrat – involves a host of soul saving, nation-mending measures that complement the run-of-the-mill Obama appeasements we all know and nourish our peptic ulcers with … such as combating domestic economic injustice, ensuring that as many abortions as possible take place in America, providing health care to each and every person within our borders, and banning television news folks who ask tough questions of Democrats from the Obama inner circle (few as they are).

On the other hand … what?!?!?!?

To the Obamacrats, the United States military is an over-funded, grossly misused implement of a terribly flawed war-hungry imperialist nation. What America needs, according to the words of "The One" spoken along the Messianic trail, is an equally authoritative force of civilian stormtroopers that can jackboot their way across the nation enforcing equality and justice while promoting unity.

Talk about fundamental transformation.

How is such a thing to be implemented?

How is such a thing to be paid for?

This would involve either astronomical cutbacks to the military or astronomical increases in spending to achieve a force “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.

(Head shaking. Hair falling).

And to the main-stream-media, none of this has even a camel's eye-lash worth of relevance.

So many of the cocktail-party going, inner-circle media types who thrive in the New York-Washington news corridor want to be on the right side of history – the winning side of history. The same goes for some of the conservative punditocracy who have either defected to, or conceded to, the blue team. The "invites" to the hottest shindigs are often too much to resist.

These things matter. They really do.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: campaign; civilianforces; military; nationalsecurity; obama; obamastapo
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1 posted on 11/01/2008 8:20:41 PM PDT by andrew roman
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To: andrew roman
Geheimnis Statz Polizei.

Waffen S.S., too?

2 posted on 11/01/2008 8:24:08 PM PDT by stboz
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To: andrew roman

When they march they will have a big ‘O’ on their shoulder patch, and they will be mostly from the ranks of young, unemployed blacks.


3 posted on 11/01/2008 8:24:13 PM PDT by Sundog (Palin --- She who can shoot a moose can shoot a Russian bear.)
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To: andrew roman
Betting pool:

If Obama occupies the White House, and an 'event' occurs, who wants to put money down that the first people Obama comes after is his 'constituency', rather than the perpetrators of said 'event'?

4 posted on 11/01/2008 8:24:43 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: andrew roman

Will Obama have this civilian army for his own purposes, say to use for a police state?

I’ll go and read the rest of the article; maybe the answer is there.


5 posted on 11/01/2008 8:25:28 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: andrew roman

I can’t believe folks are still considering voting for this guy. How much proof do you need? I mean, c’mon, America! He has to be one of the scariest, most corrupt candidates we’ve ever had.


6 posted on 11/01/2008 8:25:29 PM PDT by AnglePark
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To: Tench_Coxe

Add a pool for it happening even if he doesn’t occupy the White House.


7 posted on 11/01/2008 8:25:55 PM PDT by TheZMan (Admin Moderator, "No. We dumped it because it was stupid.")
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To: andrew roman

It’s already too late to question this. It’s best now just to be watchful and see how, if he wins, he goes about assembling this “force”. Once we identify it, and the other social changes he will put in place, we will know what to do.


8 posted on 11/01/2008 8:26:51 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: andrew roman

I have emailed the video to everyone on my list. I also have posted it on some web sites. This needs to get out to everyone.


9 posted on 11/01/2008 8:27:23 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: andrew roman

AN ABSOLUTELY PLAIN OLD MAD-AS-HELL PING OR BUMP, WHICHEVER IT’S CALLED!

We have the NATIONAL GUARD, but the Obamassiah can’t get real volunteer patriots to abuse and attack their fellow countrymen!

So, NOW he has a scheme to force US to pay for his handpicked hooligans to abuse and control us for him . . .

Awake America!


10 posted on 11/01/2008 8:28:52 PM PDT by Twinkie (PRESERVE OUR CONSTITUTION !!!)
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To: andrew roman

A.G.B.


11 posted on 11/01/2008 8:30:01 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 85 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: andrew roman

I’m not old enough to remember WWII, but I sure saw a lot of movies about it.

I DO remember the Nurenberg Trials.

I’m terrified of this guy.

I pray the rest of the people WAKE UP before Tuesday!


12 posted on 11/01/2008 8:31:27 PM PDT by siamesecats
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To: andrew roman
The majority of Americans appear to have more horse sense than our elites. If they don't prevail on Tuesday, our country will be in for a time unlike any we've known in American history.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 11/01/2008 8:32:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: andrew roman

Isn’t this from the July 2, 2008 “New Era of Service” Speech.

See my prior post on this speech and Obama “Civilian National Security Force” comments:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2046706/posts


14 posted on 11/01/2008 8:35:48 PM PDT by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: supremedoctrine

I think that, logically, Ayers, Obama and the radical communists already have their minions lined up to be the “committees” that will review the “applicants” for this “National Civilian “Security” FORCE” and handpick those they “hire” and the Government (US) will pay all their salaries. (Of course, he will have to change the name of the “FORCE” to a more benign name, now that we are on to him.) We had also better dissect all the other bullcrap names for “programs” and “committees” he’s thrown at us for the past several months in NEWSPEAK and DOUBLESPEAK and translate what they REALLY ARE in REALSPEAK.


15 posted on 11/01/2008 8:36:34 PM PDT by Twinkie (PRESERVE OUR CONSTITUTION !!!)
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To: andrew roman
We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.

Clearly, an Obama/Ayers administration plans to implement the Secret Thought Police.

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16 posted on 11/01/2008 8:41:20 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Sundog
"When they march they will have a big ‘O’ on their shoulder patch"

Aim small.....miss small.

17 posted on 11/01/2008 8:41:49 PM PDT by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: Twinkie

Pray that it does not come to this. I’m thinking about what Biden said about how Americans will not like what Nobama is doing but we must support him. Sounds like we may have another civil war. Pray McCain wins this election!!


18 posted on 11/01/2008 8:41:54 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: Twinkie
"I think that, logically, Ayers, Obama and the radical communists already have their minions lined up to be the “committees” that will review the “applicants” for this “National Civilian “Security” FORCE” and handpick those they “hire” and the Government (US) will pay all their salaries"

Infrastructure in place....

Public Allies........founded by 0bambi....now Michelle is leader....

www.publicallies.org for info.

enjoy.

19 posted on 11/01/2008 8:44:55 PM PDT by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: andrew roman

If this is a vanity, why is it credited to Town Hall?

If it isn’t a vanity, where is the link?


20 posted on 11/01/2008 8:45:30 PM PDT by upchuck (Law of Logical Argument: Anything's possible if you don't know what you're talking about. => nObama))
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To: Twinkie

Ding, ding ding! We have a winner, thanks Twinkie and no kidding.

It seems that many are braindead about this. Like you, I agree that many have been put into place, there has to be some mega-organizing going on. History shows us this is the case in these situations. This is NO DIFFERENT.

What’s irritating to me is the hand-wringing going on among FReepers. Time to get angry but not out of control. Time to keep ears to the ground, eyes open for info about any unusual organizing going on, the info is out there, be observant! Time to get cagy, crafty, sneaky and alert.


21 posted on 11/01/2008 8:46:52 PM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: andrew roman

ARBEIT MACHT FREI


22 posted on 11/01/2008 8:55:31 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're in the basin, that's the best)
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To: Parley Baer

How old is this video clip? Has he come out and said this lately?

Just curious


23 posted on 11/01/2008 8:55:52 PM PDT by Glacier Honey (`)
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To: Sundog

When they march they will have a big ‘O’ on their shoulder patch, and they will be mostly from the ranks of young, unemployed blacks.


And they will have a big O on their chests or backs or where ever. Bullseyes.


24 posted on 11/01/2008 8:58:34 PM PDT by unkus
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To: make no mistake
"Sounds like we may have another civil war."

Freedom or Tyranny? McCain said we'll fight for freedom. I believe him.

25 posted on 11/01/2008 8:59:21 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Glacier Honey

How old is this video clip? Has he come out and said this lately?

Just curious


It doesn’t matter “when” or “how old”. Give me a break.

You sound like a troll.


26 posted on 11/01/2008 9:03:27 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Seaplaner

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2122177/posts


27 posted on 11/01/2008 9:03:48 PM PDT by combat_boots (From the Bush Derangement Syndrome(TM) to the 0bama Worship Cult in which NOTHING matters. USSKKKA)
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To: Twinkie
the Obamassiah can’t get real volunteer patriots to abuse and attack their fellow countrymen!

YOU GOT IT!!!

28 posted on 11/01/2008 9:05:53 PM PDT by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: andrew roman
They plan to herd American youth into government-funded reeducation camps where they'll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of "social change."

"But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about 'social change' through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation — the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul 'The Red' Alinsky."

Is this the prototype?

More from IBD..

"The government now funds about half of Public Allies' expenses through Clinton's AmeriCorps. Obama wants to fully fund it and expand it into a national program that some see costing $500 billion. 'We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded' as the military, he said.

"The gall of it: The Obamas want to create a boot camp for radicals who hate the military — and stick American taxpayers with the bill."

Radicals who hate the military — and American taxpayers pay the bill?! Damn! I thought the Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party) raised its own funds.

29 posted on 11/01/2008 9:06:54 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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I really don't care if they wear blue helmets or brown shirts and jackboots. Foreign and Domestic, the oath says...

If they seek to usurp the Constitution of the United States by any means... well, the target size is still an average of 2 meters in height according to my reticle.

Raven6

30 posted on 11/01/2008 9:10:45 PM PDT by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: brushcop
Something to think about....

On:

http://www.votebuilder.com/PrintReport.aspx

is the name of every voting citizen in the United States. There is a bar code with information on it (what information is on the bar code, I don't know) for every voter registered in the United States. The name of the voter appears along with the voter's age, sex, phone number and likely party e.g. SR means SOLID REPUBLICAN, LR means LEANS REPUBLICAN, ND probably means NOT DETERMINED, etc.

I got fed up with the Obomites and their writing on the clip board every time they rang my doorbell, so I ripped the top sheet off and found the information on all of the voters in my family. I'm not comfortable with the fact that they know whether or not we are "strong left," "leans left," "undecided," "leans right," or "solid right."

31 posted on 11/01/2008 9:11:12 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: andrew roman

WOLVERINES!

32 posted on 11/01/2008 9:15:55 PM PDT by Enterprise (No Oil for Democrats!)
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To: brushcop

Over the past year there have been secret meetings convening in our subdivision. The only evidence of these meetings is fifteen to twenty vehicles parked up and down both sides of our small streets, some on other folk’s grass. It’s usually a Wednesday or Thursday night toward the end of the month. It’s not a party, there’s no loud talking, music, or laughter anywhere. In fact there’s no sound at all, and it’s not apparent whose house they are convening in. The vehicles are all different—pickups, sedans, etc, and they almost completely block the street. It is not the homeowner’s association meeting, that is held in a shopping mall down the street on a specific date. So yes, there is surreptitious organizing/meeting occurring, it is just below the level of observation and off most people’s radars. I mentioned this to a neighbor and he just denied even seeing the vehicles and he lives on the affected street.


33 posted on 11/01/2008 9:19:03 PM PDT by 4Runner
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To: supremedoctrine

When you stick your hand in a pile of goo that used to be your best friends face, you'll know what to do about Obama and his civilian national security force.

34 posted on 11/01/2008 9:19:07 PM PDT by Enterprise (No Oil for Democrats!)
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To: andrew roman

Can you say SS?

I really don’t think so (and hope not), but here’s to the scary idea!


35 posted on 11/01/2008 9:23:16 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: 4Runner

Same weird meeting was happening on my street in my neighborhood, though I assume it was a just a neighbor’s party..dont’ be worried yet!


36 posted on 11/01/2008 9:25:13 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: andrew roman

One need merely think about the history of the 20th Century to recognize that no authoritarian regime,right,left,or personality centered that did not depend on paramilitary forces operating independently from the military and thoroughly politicized.Let’s see:the SA,SS(Germany),Iron Guard,Securitate(Romania),Falange(Spain)Red Guard(Communist China)NKVD,OGPU,MVD,(USSR)AVO,Arrow Cross(Hungary),Balckshirts(Italy)Gestapu(Indonesia)Revolutionary Guard(Iran)-getting the point here?
The US has had Federal law enforcement agencies,but never a national police force.The closest thing to a paramilitary is the Border Patrol,but they have little impact on anyone except smugglers and illegal aliens,because they have limited and very specific duties.
Some free societies have national police,such as France(Gendarmerie)or Italy(Carabinieri),but the US has no such tradition.
Every third world craphole where the citizens are treated like chattel has paramilitary forces answerable only to the national leader.
Obama has designs for this force-probably first to disarm the citizenry.And that is when s””t will pick up as they say.These recycled gangsters will find out quick enough that so many armed citizens have military and/or police experience,or are just good marksmen and hunters.These scumbags will need a lot of replacements when they start making moves.
Let’s see-80 million legal gun owners-90% comply-10% don’t-that’s EIGHT MILLION potential Ruby Ridge situations.
I don’t have any sympathies in common with Randy Weaver-just illustrating a point.


37 posted on 11/01/2008 9:27:23 PM PDT by steamroller
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To: JSDude1

We are very familiar with parties in our subdivision and can identify them fairly easily. This is no party. It’s a meeting of some sort, religious or political.


38 posted on 11/01/2008 9:31:16 PM PDT by 4Runner
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To: 4Runner
Sounds like my Tai Chi class.

We're going to take over the world in slow motion.

39 posted on 11/01/2008 9:34:30 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureĀ™)
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To: stboz

Don’t forget the Sturmabteilung. But Red Shirts is this case.


40 posted on 11/01/2008 9:35:44 PM PDT by benldguy
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To: steamroller

Do you really think the compliance rate will be as high as 90%?


41 posted on 11/01/2008 9:41:06 PM PDT by 4Runner
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To: EverOnward

Be weary of anyone who keeps lists.


42 posted on 11/01/2008 9:54:39 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: 4Runner

Let’s say I’m mentally prepared for the worst case scenario-of course I hope it would be much lower.
I’m not sure Obama can even ram this thing through Congress,and as far as more gun control,he might have problems with Harry Reid.It is just unhealthy to get too complacent.
What is much more likely is the mass legalization of illegal aliens in the US.
This guy is more like Jim Jones every day-as long as only his slavish admirers drink the poison Kool-Aid,we’ll be ok.
Some of those voting for him will have a major change of heart if he wins and they find out what they have let into the house.
Stock up on ammo in any event.
This country has gotten dumbed down by the media to a scary level.Maybe it needs a national enema.


43 posted on 11/01/2008 9:59:10 PM PDT by steamroller
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Obama's civilian national security objective "is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about 'social change' through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation — the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul 'The Red' Alinsky." Get in their faces, said BO.

That started back in the 1960s. It's called universities, institutes of dire learning.

Estimated cost to taxpayers, $500 billion ( a year?) much of the cost taken from DoD's budget, it appears to me.

Now that we know that a president Obama would have no respect for our "defective" constitution our military would be free to disregard civilian authority and finally! go after domestic enemies.

If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!

Don't try this at home. Leave it to the professionals

44 posted on 11/01/2008 10:02:05 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

When we don’t have to worry about being called racist, we’ll move.


45 posted on 11/01/2008 10:14:51 PM PDT by Sundog (Palin --- She who can shoot a moose can shoot a Russian bear.)
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To: andrew roman
...while promoting unity.

A way to "promote unity" is to silence or eliminate dissenters.

The most disturbing thing about this character is the consistent intolerance of dissent. Such intolerance, in the hands of an insecure and inexperienced leader, is an extremely dangerous catalyst for tyranny.

46 posted on 11/01/2008 11:02:57 PM PDT by Lexinom (They fight for ideology. We fight for our families.)
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To: andrew roman; All
Can you say "Gestapo," Class? Or perhaps STASI? Or OGPU?
47 posted on 11/02/2008 2:03:08 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard Pirate Boy, plunderin' his way across the WWW...)
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To: spokeshave
"Aim small.....miss small."

Target their officers.

48 posted on 11/02/2008 2:18:14 AM PST by Enterprise (No Oil for Democrats!)
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To: Glacier Honey

Recently, July 2.


49 posted on 11/02/2008 2:18:37 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: 4Runner

That is exactly what I had in mind, not paranoia but observation and discernment. We are not the “black helicopter” crowd but we do know that people get together and organize to do evil just as they band together to accomplish good, this is reality.

Our society has jumped into the “I’m no conspiracy nut” mode with both feet but we need to remember that we are not to check our brains at the door and discard all common-sense and reason. Men CONSPIRE to do evil and so we need to watch for such otherwise we become like flotsam and jetsam, unable (or unwilling) to learn, drifting helplessly with the tide, possibly like your neighbor?

These times of testing will demand clear thinking, level heads, leadership; encouragement to those in distress so that they not despair, we already have a great example of that kind of leadership: Sarah Palin and her husband Todd.


50 posted on 11/02/2008 5:58:16 AM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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