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Dole Starting Robocalss On Hagan And Atheists
WRAL ^ | 11/2/08 | WRAL

Posted on 11/02/2008 4:13:46 AM PST by careyb

RALEIGH, N.C. — Incumbent GOP Sen. Elizabeth Dole continued Saturday to question her campaign rival's attendance at a fundraiser hosted by an adviser to an atheist advocacy group, beginning a round of automated calls that includes clips of Kay Hagan trying to explain her decision to attend.

Dole's campaign began sending out automated telephone calls that talks about Hagan, a Democratic state senator, and the Godless Americans Political Action Committee. Dole's campaign said 1.3 million calls are planned through Monday.

Hagan has sued Dole over her initial television ad about the fundraiser, accussing her of defamation and libel. The initial spot concludes with a picture of Hagan while another woman says, "There is no God." Hagan is an elder at her Presbyterian church and has responded with an ad that strongly declares her Christian faith.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: atheists; dole; hagan
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Unlike various members of the lamestream media and even certain Republican wimps, I have no trouble with Dole pursuing this type of negative campaigning against Hagan.

If John McCain was this tough against Hussein, he might be ahead in the polls now.

1 posted on 11/02/2008 4:13:46 AM PST by careyb
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To: careyb

I have no problem with it except she now trails Hagen by quite a bit in the polls. Not looking good for Dole.


2 posted on 11/02/2008 4:17:59 AM PST by nobama08
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To: careyb

I hang up and/or delete all automated calls from the answering machine immediately.


3 posted on 11/02/2008 4:21:46 AM PST by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: nobama08

Not meaning to offend but why is Dole hanging around?
So many old Republicans trying to hold on to power when they should have retired.
We need new blood, new REAL conservatives. Not RINOs and old fools whose time is past.


4 posted on 11/02/2008 4:23:04 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: nobama08

The latest WRAL poll had Dole up by 4.


5 posted on 11/02/2008 4:23:40 AM PST by careyb
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To: careyb

You go, Liddy.

The way they scream, it must be working.

Sorta like vampires and Holy water.


6 posted on 11/02/2008 4:24:09 AM PST by Adder (typical basicly decent bitter white person)
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To: careyb
If John McCain was this tough against Hussein, he might be ahead in the polls now.

The only reason McCain isn't ahead in the Polls is because they are rigged to make sure he isn't.

7 posted on 11/02/2008 4:26:52 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: nobama08
I have no problem with it except she now trails Hagen by quite a bit in the polls. Not looking good for Dole.

The polls I have seen recently have stated that she has moved ahead is likely to retain her seat.

8 posted on 11/02/2008 4:28:09 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: careyb

Voters don’t just want to hear why your opponent is “bad” - they want to know WHAT YOU DID OR CAN DO FOR THEM.

This whole “my opponent just sucks” angle of campaigning is what is causing us to not be further ahead than we are in ANY race - POTUS included.

Try telling the voters what YOU have done or will do for once!!

I mean..how hard is it? (Wellll..unless you haven’t actually DONE anything..)


9 posted on 11/02/2008 4:28:21 AM PST by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: nobama08

I just saw your sign up date-thanks for the misinformation.


10 posted on 11/02/2008 4:28:45 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: careyb

Its too late to change now. She should press on and go down fighting. Or better yet, win with truth.


11 posted on 11/02/2008 4:29:26 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: Adder
The media and their polls are being used to "brainwash" folks. It's just a continuance of "Bash Bush".

There are a lot of ignorant people out there...and if you live off the workers of society...you have nothing to lose....and you go for "more" of what the workers have.....That's what Obama offers them....Free Money....out of our pockets.

12 posted on 11/02/2008 4:32:34 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: jstolzen
If your opponent doesn't represent your values, the voters need to know that.

Americans don't want to know what a politican is going to do for them, they want to know the the politican will represent what they believe in and fight for those values.

13 posted on 11/02/2008 4:32:35 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: Sacajaweau

You are right.

Anyone who has a smattering of knowledge of Kay Hagen knows she would be a willing cog in ZeroReidPelosi’s cabal.

It would be a disaster.

Liddy hasn’t been the most outspoken or flashy Senator in NC’s history but she has been reliable.

I just hope my Tarheelian compadres send her back.


14 posted on 11/02/2008 4:37:46 AM PST by Adder (typical basicly decent bitter white person)
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To: fortheDeclaration

How dare you try to paint me as a spy or something. I already voted for Dole. I live in NC and know what people are saying. If you did some homework, you would know, too.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122557136327590909.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

“HICKORY, N.C. — An unexpected dead heat in North Carolina’s Senate race turned nastier this week when Republican incumbent Elizabeth Dole launched a new advertising assault against her Democratic opponent. But the tactic has appeared ineffective so far, as Sen. Dole continues to trail her challenger in polls.

Elizabeth Dole
Sen. Dole began airing a television ad in the middle of this week accusing her opponent, Democratic state Sen. Kay Hagan, of ties with an atheist group. But polls reflected no bump by the week’s end for Sen. Dole, who trails Sen. Hagan by 5.5 points in an average of surveys compiled by RealClearPolitics.”

As for when I signed up, I was without a computer for three years because my daughter took it off to college. I re-registered this year when I got a new laptop for Mother’s Day, if it is any of your business.

I went to see Palin here in Asheville and took my daughter and future son-in-law. Both my daughters have already voted - for McCain/Palin AND Dole.

People like you take the fun out of FR.

It serves no purpose to bury your head in the sand or to plug your ears and say “la la la - I can’t hear you”! The truth is Dole may very well lose this election.


15 posted on 11/02/2008 4:41:27 AM PST by nobama08
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To: nobama08
I have done my 'homework' and polls have recently shown Dole up in NC.

So stop spreading false information.

16 posted on 11/02/2008 4:46:53 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: fortheDeclaration

Which poll are you looking at?


17 posted on 11/02/2008 4:49:06 AM PST by nobama08
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To: Tax-chick
I hang up and/or delete all automated calls from the answering machine immediately.

That's what God gave us caller ID for. If the number comes across as "Unknown" or I don't recognize the caller then I don't answer. Lord knows how many polls I've missed being included in over the past few weeks.

18 posted on 11/02/2008 4:49:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: fortheDeclaration

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/north_carolina/election_2008_north_carolina_senate

Democrat Kay Hagan now holds a six-point lead over incumbent Republican Senator Elizabeth Dole in North Carolina.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Tar Heel State shows Hagan with 52% of the vote and Dole with 46%. Three weeks ago, Hagan held a five-point advantage.

This is the fourth straight Rasmussen Reports survey to show Hagan in the lead. In May, Rasmussen Reports was the first polling firm to show Hagan ahead of Dole, a result that was harshly challenged by the Dole campaign. Over the summer, a television advertising blitz put Dole back on top until mid-September.

Is this also “misinformation”?


19 posted on 11/02/2008 4:51:55 AM PST by nobama08
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To: Non-Sequitur

There must be somebody listening to the automated calls, just like somebody talks to telemarketers. Too bad, because if everyone hung up, the industry would all go away.


20 posted on 11/02/2008 4:52:19 AM PST by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: fortheDeclaration
I have done my 'homework' and polls have recently shown Dole up in NC.

I guess that these are all wrong then? Face it, Dole ignored her state and her constituency, and is paying the price for it. These kind of ads show just how desperate she really is.

21 posted on 11/02/2008 4:52:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: nobama08
Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. surveyed 800 likely voters statewide between last Wednesday and Friday and found Dole leads Democratic challenger Kay Hagan by 46 to 42 percent.

Stop spreading misinformation.

22 posted on 11/02/2008 4:53:33 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: fortheDeclaration

Why is your poll superior to Rausmussen? And I would like a link. What I posted was not misinformation. Admit it. And 30% of NC has already voted - probably higher now.


23 posted on 11/02/2008 4:58:00 AM PST by nobama08
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To: nobama08
Entering the month of June, our targets for the month were set so that the sample would include 9.44% more Democrats than Republicans.

Now, why would they poll more 10% more Democrats then Republicans when NC is mostly a Republican State that is going to elect a Republican Governor this election?

So you can make it appear that the Republican is behind in the polls.

24 posted on 11/02/2008 5:00:07 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: nobama08
Why is your poll superior to Rausmussen? And I would like a link. What I posted was not misinformation. Admit it. And 30% of NC has already voted - probably higher now.

What does the amount of early voters have to do with anything?

Dole will hold that seat.

25 posted on 11/02/2008 5:02:14 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: nobama08

Here is another thread that has Dole up by 1.

SurveyUSA 10/05 - 10/06 617 LV Hagan 43 Dole 44 Dole +1


26 posted on 11/02/2008 5:07:22 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: nobama08
http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/3848011/

Poll: Dole leads Senate race, but plenty still undecided Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 Raleigh, N.C. — U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole is supported by many North Carolina voters whom other Republican candidates haven't reached, according to a new WRAL News poll.

27 posted on 11/02/2008 5:12:13 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: nobama08
Just FYI. Mason-Dixon is the gold standard of state polls, especially in the south. In 2004, Drudge had a headline declaring the exit polls showed Dole getting crushed. She won.

You are serving as a prime example of what the MSM wishes to accomplish with their polls. You are discouraged and you are sharing your discouragement here. Hagan may win. Heck, Obama may even win NC. But to believe any polls now, or allow them to discourage you at this point, makes no sense whatsoever.

The Obama Marxists have hired people to do this exact same thing on forums throughout the country. They know that when the Republican base doesn't show up, they will win.

28 posted on 11/02/2008 5:14:11 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

NC hasn’t elected a Republican governor in 20 years. Get your facts first. Stop spreading misinformation. And the state is a toss-up for president this year. Check your polls.


29 posted on 11/02/2008 5:15:57 AM PST by nobama08
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To: Mase
They know that when the Republican base doesn't show up, they will win.

Yes, and the GOP base is turning out in force and will elect an GOP Governor and re-elect Dole and put the State into the McCain column.

30 posted on 11/02/2008 5:17:41 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: nobama08
NC hasn’t elected a Republican governor in 20 years. Get your facts first. Stop spreading misinformation. And the state is a toss-up for president this year. Check your polls.

Now, I know you are a troll.

The fact that a Republican Governor is going to be elected has been posted constantly on these threads.

Stop posting misinformation.

31 posted on 11/02/2008 5:19:06 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: jstolzen
I disagree. If the negative add is inaccurate, then the candidate must be held accountable, but if there is negative stuff out about you (no birth certificate and possibly born in Kenya, 20 year connection to racist preacher, socialist / marxist leanings, supporting athiest groups that want to destroy Christianity, etc) then those are valid and do influence the uninformed when they finally hear about it.

It is more effective with them then trying to explain how deeply tied up the Democrats are in our economic collapse.

32 posted on 11/02/2008 5:22:31 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (NOBAMA - it is for our future)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Jim needs to clean up our rolls.

I wish we could click on a name and see the posting history and then look at their posts. Some of these sleepers go back years.

33 posted on 11/02/2008 5:25:37 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (NOBAMA - it is for our future)
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To: nobama08
"(McCrory) threw a monkey wrench into the governor's race," said longtime state Democratic operative Brad Crone. "There was a general assumption that Perdue had the upper hand ... (but) it is truly up for grabs."

http://www.newsmax.com/politics/north_carolina_governor/2008/10/16/141101.html

34 posted on 11/02/2008 5:28:03 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: FreeAtlanta
Jim needs to clean up our rolls. I wish we could click on a name and see the posting history and then look at their posts. Some of these sleepers go back years.

Amen.

35 posted on 11/02/2008 5:28:44 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: nobama08
According to a Public Policy Poll released today, Charlotte Mayor Pat McCrory leads Lt. Governor Beverly Perdue in the Governor's race. The poll puts McCrory at 44% while Perdue is pulling in 41% of sampled voters.

http://katysconservativecorner.typepad.com/katy/nc_governors_race_2008/

36 posted on 11/02/2008 5:31:05 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: fortheDeclaration

Good.


37 posted on 11/02/2008 5:32:20 AM PST by nobama08
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To: fortheDeclaration

Answer this question. When was the last time a Republican governor WAS ELECTED?

By the way, I would assume you know how to look at my prior posts and know I am not a troll. That would make you a liar if you continue to refer to me as such. You don’t want a reputation as a liar, do you?


38 posted on 11/02/2008 5:34:43 AM PST by nobama08
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To: Mase

As I said, I voted for Dole as did my family. The early turnout in NC has been huge. Unfortunately, there are big pools of liberals in NC. As for polls, I believe the ones I like and discount those I don’t - just like everyone else. But the FACT is that NC has not elected a Republican governor for many years. Hopefully that will change this year because so many residents dislike Easley. He’s a Dem for those who don’t know.


39 posted on 11/02/2008 5:38:58 AM PST by nobama08
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To: careyb

I’ve never been a big Liddy Dole fan, she’s rarely if ever in this state, for any reason, unless it’s election season. But, that said, Kay Hagan doesn’t have a conservative bone in her body, so I’ll take Liddy, warts and all.

This ad uproar is classic misdirection. Hagan attended a party hosted by this Godless PAC. She accepted a donation or donations from this PAC. She got called on it in an ad from the Dole camp. Now, she’s squealling loudly that she’s Presbyterian. Note that the ad merely stated who Kay Hagan’s supporters were.


40 posted on 11/02/2008 5:40:46 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: fortheDeclaration

That was from a month ago.

More recent Survey USA polling had Hagen +1.


41 posted on 11/02/2008 5:49:35 AM PST by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: nobama08
Answer this question. When was the last time a Republican governor WAS ELECTED?

That is the point, that it is unusual and it is going to happen!

By the way, I would assume you know how to look at my prior posts and know I am not a troll. That would make you a liar if you continue to refer to me as such. You don’t want a reputation as a liar, do you?

You just signed up and have spread misinformation.

That puts you in the likely 'troll' category.

Now, if you don't want to be known as a troll, don't spread MSM lies about how NC is going to be lost to Obama, and that Dole is going to be beaten.

42 posted on 11/02/2008 5:50:43 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: nobama08

Unfortunately, too many on here now call anyone a “troll” if they point out some facts. Quite a few have truly left the conservative mold


43 posted on 11/02/2008 6:11:35 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Blaming Palin: The McCain-GOPer Exit Strategy On Losing The Election?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Face it, Dole ignored her state and her constituency, and is paying the price for it. These kind of ads show just how desperate she really is. “

Sadly there is a lot of truth to that. She isn’t the mostly highly respected senator in North Carolina and she hasn’t built much of a reputation for getting things done. She also has a reputation for a terrible constituent services operation. Anyone who has been around NC long enough knows that one reason Jesse would always pull out close elections is that he ran one of the best constituent service operations Washington has ever seen. If you ever needed help with any bureaucracy, Jesse’s office would handle it for you. Even Dems I know gained respect for him and voted for him after having to use him for a passport or social security, etc issue.

Dole is a weak incumbent. There is no question about that. I think she pulls it off but the reason won’t be that people are excited about her. The reason will be that people don’t like Hagan and don’t want the Dems to get a big majority.


44 posted on 11/02/2008 7:05:51 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: fortheDeclaration

“Now, why would they poll more 10% more Democrats then Republicans when NC is mostly a Republican State that is going to elect a Republican Governor this election?”

Depends on how they determine Democrat and Republican. NC always goes red but its because we have a lot of people who are too ashamed to admit they are Republicans. We have 2.9 million registered Dems and 2 million registered Rs. It makes no sense.


45 posted on 11/02/2008 7:07:51 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac
[Now, why would they poll more 10% more Democrats then Republicans when NC is mostly a Republican State that is going to elect a Republican Governor this election?”]

Depends on how they determine Democrat and Republican. NC always goes red but its because we have a lot of people who are too ashamed to admit they are Republicans. We have 2.9 million registered Dems and 2 million registered Rs. It makes no sense.

What doesn't make sense is overpolling Democrats when historically the State has gone 'Red'.

Clearly, these are conservative Democrats who are not going to vote nationally for a liberal Democrat.

46 posted on 11/02/2008 8:06:15 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: Joe Boucher

She’s only been a senator for two terms. My goodness, she’s 75th in seniority. :) There are plenty of oldtimers who need booted before her - Kennedy, Kerry, Levin, Byrd, Dodd, Leahy...


47 posted on 11/02/2008 10:07:31 AM PST by agrace
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To: agrace

At 75 Mrs. Dole along with a whole passel of other very old folks should not be in these offices.
And the number of terms has little to do with anything.
Just come to Florida and watch 75 year olds driving.


48 posted on 11/02/2008 10:24:35 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

She’s not 75 years old!!! She’s 75th in senate seniority! Meaning, there are 74 senators who have been in office longer than her!

You’re just messing with me, aren’t you?


49 posted on 11/02/2008 10:45:31 AM PST by agrace
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To: agrace

"She’s not 75 years old!!!"

She's 72 and looks GREAT!

50 posted on 11/02/2008 11:47:27 AM PST by Mila
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