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Redstate.com: Obama wants to reshape the agriculture industry
Redstate ^ | November 2, 2008 | Soren Dayton

Posted on 11/02/2008 10:29:39 AM PST by GOPGuide

Below, Moe writes on some shocking statements by Barack Obama about "bankrupting the coal industry" in order to address global warming.

Obama has it in for another industry: agriculture. Check out these statements from an interview he gave with Time's Joe Klein:

As a consequence, our agriculture sector actually is contributing more greenhouse gases than our transportation sector. And in the mean time, it's creating monocultures that are vulnerable to national security threats, are now vulnerable to sky-high food prices or crashes in food prices, huge swings in commodity prices, and are partly responsible for the explosion in our healthcare costs because they're contributing to type 2 diabetes, stroke and heart disease, obesity, all the things that are driving our huge explosion in healthcare costs. That's just one sector of the economy.

He is blaming our agriculture policy for global warming, obesity, stroke, heart disease, etc.

If he is willing to "bankrupt" the coal industry over global warming, what's he going to do to the agriculture sector which "actually is contributing more greenhouse gases than our transportation sector"?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agriculture; barackthefarmer; barrackthefarmer; digg; farming; marxism; obama; obamao; ruralvote; socialism; usda
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America has been warned...
1 posted on 11/02/2008 10:29:40 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

A famine is as good an excuse to start my diet as any.


2 posted on 11/02/2008 10:31:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: GOPGuide

We must have central planning! Only smart socialists can save us! /sarc


3 posted on 11/02/2008 10:32:12 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: GOPGuide

Cuba. Every yard a garden. Every single area planted for food. That was done to feed the population. Everyone else worked the sugar plantations for export crop to Soviet countries.

He’s trying to placate the greens. What next? No private cars? Alternate gas days?

This guy is promising so much to so many, he’s going to fall on his face.


4 posted on 11/02/2008 10:34:01 AM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

It worked great in 1930’s Ukraine...


5 posted on 11/02/2008 10:34:25 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Where the heck has the GOP been on these issues? Destroying coal, agriculture, etc. and this is the first they are publishing this stuff.


6 posted on 11/02/2008 10:35:13 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: OpusatFR

He has the arrogance of the inexperienced. He’s never done anything so he’s never felt the sting of failure.

Let’s help the little marxist gain a little experience shall we?


7 posted on 11/02/2008 10:36:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: raybbr

“Where the heck has the GOP been on these issues? Destroying coal, agriculture, etc. and this is the first they are publishing this stuff.”

WHERE THE F&$# IS THE GOP OPPOSITION REASEARCH???


8 posted on 11/02/2008 10:36:39 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

“America has been warned...”

Disagree. Actually a few Freepers will read this article, and those that attend “Redstate”, but other than that America as a whole doesn’t know a damned thing about this.

Need to work to get this out to the public. I for one am sending this to everyone on my email address list with note to forward.


9 posted on 11/02/2008 10:42:00 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: GOPGuide

This was on WHO radio Friday. The noon farm show. Grassly was livid and said “typical Obama, says what he REALLY thinks one day then turns around and backtracks the next”.
Grassly was really unhappy about the comments. Yes, let’s blame the farm states for fat people and greenhouse gases (hey, CO2 is a GOOD thing, just ask ANY tree!)


10 posted on 11/02/2008 10:42:30 AM PST by shadowspapa (All your income are belong to us)
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To: cripplecreek

“Let’s help the little marxist gain a little experience shall we?”

I think if he ever gets into office, he will find he is going to run into well entrenched, many decades of service, democrat senators and congressman who will inform him that he is a neophyte.

I smell a Carter on the horizon. Carter came into office with his own agenda and ran headlong into the real powers.

Or else, I have relatives in Munich I can visit...for a few years.


11 posted on 11/02/2008 10:43:30 AM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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To: GOPGuide
How Obama wants to reshape the agriculture industry
12 posted on 11/02/2008 10:45:39 AM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: GOPGuide

To Obama, we are all kulaks, rich peasants that must be destroyed.
And he will do so. Everything he does will be to divide people, create enemies and point to their destruction.

Ignorance is strength.


13 posted on 11/02/2008 10:45:56 AM PST by romanesq
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To: Paine in the Neck

“We must have central planning! Only smart socialists can save us! /sarc”

Well that really is the main concern with these types. They do think the government knows more than the individual.
They don’t trust in, or believe in the genius and uniqueness of the individual.


14 posted on 11/02/2008 10:46:33 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Flush Obama/Biden in 2008!!!!)
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To: GOPGuide

15 posted on 11/02/2008 10:48:02 AM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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To: OpusatFR
I think if he ever gets into office, he will find he is going to run into well entrenched, many decades of service, democrat senators and congressman who will inform him that he is a neophyte.

He's promising far more than anyone could ever deliver and all but his most avid his supporters will be enraged at him within a year.
16 posted on 11/02/2008 10:48:10 AM PST by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: GOPGuide

Sometimes there is a reason for monoculture - climate, soil type, growing season. Our area has high nitrogen from frequent lightning strikes, a very short growing season and is at high elevation. Best for growing alfalfa hay and cows. That is basically all we grow as that is the highest and best use. Farmers tried to grow medicinal herbs and met with frost. They tried to grow sunflowers only they had to completely retool and field equipment and machines are expensive.

I have heard wildlife biologists suggest we put cows on a “water diet” or drip irrigate in pastures. They are clueless. They came in and pushed “efficient” pivot wheels that the government helped purchase. That changed the hydrology of the watershed. Now the groundwater is no longer recharged and the water leaves the area downstream faster, leaving little for summer flows. Also more land is irrigated at a higher cost than with flood or wheel line irrigation.

Our Ag extension does experiments on best crops and w3hat we traditionaly grow is just about it. Obama is ignorant.


17 posted on 11/02/2008 10:49:39 AM PST by marsh2
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To: Leisler

Oh Lord. I just finished a book about Mao’s Great Leap Forward that resulted in 20,000,000 - 40,000,000+ deaths from starvation within two years.

Too bad our schools teach garbage. The kids don’t know.


18 posted on 11/02/2008 10:51:36 AM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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To: cripplecreek

“He’s promising far more than anyone could ever deliver and all but his most avid his supporters will be enraged at him within a year.”

I guess that’s why he wants his Nationalist Brownshirt Civilian Corps up and running.


19 posted on 11/02/2008 10:53:44 AM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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To: GOPGuide

Obama has less experience dealing with these sorts of issues than any of the four candidates running and he seems arrogant enough to move forward with sweeping reforms to entire industries based on faulty, naive assumptions. It’s extraordinary that he’s been able to go this far without anyone questioning his hairbrained schemes such as these quoted. He’s not making any sense.


20 posted on 11/02/2008 10:55:46 AM PST by purplelobster
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To: GOPGuide

It’s the Mugabe effect.


21 posted on 11/02/2008 10:58:33 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: cripplecreek
He's promising far more than anyone could ever deliver and all but his most avid supporters will be enraged at him within a year.

Unless he can convince them that every failure was due to the sabotage of all those white racists in Congress who opposed him at every turn.... do not underestimate the gullibility of some of his supporters.

22 posted on 11/02/2008 11:05:39 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: raybbr

Where the heck has the GOP been on these issues

Exactly!! Don’t they have anyone that does research??? This if known by voters would kill the one. He scares me to death. Hopefully, there will be enough “conservative” democrats to block his changes for America. In the meantime, we need to email and call Hannity, FOX etc. with the coal story.


23 posted on 11/02/2008 11:13:31 AM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Paine in the Neck; All
We must have central planning! Only smart socialists can save us! /sarc

If Obama's elected, we're one signed executive order away from it, an order he will sign. He's already said he'll have the EPA declare CO2 a pollutant. About a year ago SCOTUS said the EPA has that power. Once the EPA declares CO2 a pollutant, it pretty well has whatever power it wants to use to reduce that "pollution." Since all human activity emits CO2, EPA will have a Supreme Court approved license to regulate all human activity in the US to the extent it chooses. Under the Red Messiah, that will mean central planning and the destruction of the US economy.

24 posted on 11/02/2008 11:24:01 AM PST by libstripper
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To: romanesq

To Obama, we are all kulaks, rich peasants that must be destroyed.
And he will do so. Everything he does will be to divide people, create enemies and point to their destruction.


Bingo - he’s learned at the feet of Ayers - right out of the commie textbook.


25 posted on 11/02/2008 11:26:15 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: GOPGuide
It worked great in 1930’s Ukraine...

Given his opinion of whitey and the USA, does any of us think that isn't what he really wants to do??

26 posted on 11/02/2008 11:26:19 AM PST by libstripper
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To: GOPGuide
Here's the new plan:


27 posted on 11/02/2008 11:27:06 AM PST by Jim Noble (I have read a fiery gospel, writ in burnished rows of steel)
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To: romanesq

Congratulations (NO sarcasm intended), you really do know your Soviet history. This is exactly what the Red Messiah intends.


28 posted on 11/02/2008 11:29:03 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Thank you. I was also in Kiev during the Orange Revolution. No matter what anyone tells you, the color of communism is not red; it’s gray.

And one of the largest nations in Europe is still struggling with the hangover.


29 posted on 11/02/2008 11:32:40 AM PST by romanesq
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To: shadowspapa

let’s blame the farm states for fat people “

What’s next? Blaming the fork manufacturers????


31 posted on 11/02/2008 11:43:13 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: shadowspapa

let’s blame the farm states for fat people “

What’s next? Blaming the fork manufacturers????


32 posted on 11/02/2008 11:44:46 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: rockinqsranch

Don’t most “ag states” have an AM station that does farm market reports and local ag news, etc?
Get it to them, it was on our own WHO, home of Ronald Reagan, just Friday. So, SOMEONE in Iowa knows about it anyway.


33 posted on 11/02/2008 11:45:37 AM PST by shadowspapa (All your income are belong to us)
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To: GOPGuide

Following in the footsteps of Mugabe.


34 posted on 11/02/2008 11:46:14 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: avg_freeper
Actually, this is the Digg link:
Obama wants to reshape the agriculture industry

35 posted on 11/02/2008 11:49:37 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: GOPGuide

Maybe he is just trying to finish Kruschev’s “Five-Year Plan”


36 posted on 11/02/2008 12:12:52 PM PST by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: GOPGuide
Carbon footprint, a justification for genocide.

An Appeal to Grass Roots America Part 1!

YES WE CAN! WE CAN WIN! WE MUST WIN!


37 posted on 11/02/2008 12:26:25 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: GOPGuide
He intends to implement every other discredited Marxists policy from the last 100 years. Why not the collectivization of Agriculture?

Every year I grow a favorite kind of melon in my garden that was developed in the USSR: "Collective Farm Woman." In ten years I will have tell people that it isn't a reference to our collective farms here in America.

38 posted on 11/02/2008 12:34:58 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Nah, it was Bush.../s/


39 posted on 11/02/2008 12:35:49 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: GOPGuide

“If he is willing to “bankrupt” the coal industry over global warming, what’s he going to do to the agriculture sector which “actually is contributing more greenhouse gases than our transportation sector”?”

I’m curious what legislation he would propose to accomplish either of these objectives. No matter what it is, we can now add farm states to coal producing states to the list of Senators and Congressmen who will support him and be thrown out in the mid-term elections. I have absolutely no doubt he believes this garbage, but he is beyond naive if he thinks he can get legislation passed which will bankrupt or harm coal producers or farmers.


40 posted on 11/02/2008 1:00:55 PM PST by yazoo
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To: yazoo

“he is beyond naive if he thinks he can get legislation passed which will bankrupt or harm coal producers or farmers.”

Oh yeah, the Farm Lobby will go balls to the wall to kill any legislation harmful to agriculture.


41 posted on 11/02/2008 1:24:02 PM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

“Oh yeah, the Farm Lobby will go balls to the wall to kill any legislation harmful to agriculture.”

Not sure if you were being sarcastic. If you weren’t, you are correct.


42 posted on 11/02/2008 1:26:13 PM PST by yazoo
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To: marsh2
Obama is ignorant.

Not really. It's about the money -- charges on those greenhouse gases (agriculture, coal industry, etc.) = cap and trade, carbon credits, and a thriving market for his backers.

Way back in the distant year 2000, the Joyce Foundation of Chicago, with Barack Obama on the Board of Directors, announced:

"The third Millennium Initiatives grant, a one-year award of $347,000, will go to the Kellogg Graduate School of Management at Northwestern University to help fund the design of the first U.S. market for the trading of carbon emissions. Carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases are believed to be causing climate changes such as global warming that threaten the stability of the earth's environment."

From that initial grant grew the Chicago Climate Exchange, and....

"In the spring of 2006, well before he launched his presidential campaign, Sen. Barack Obama delivered a keynote address on climate change at the Associated Press' Annual Luncheon in Chicago. Among a myriad of potential remedies for America’s dependence on fossil fuels, the Illinois senator made sure to highlight the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), a local institution that had only been in operation for three years. “To deal directly with climate change, something we failed to do in the last energy bill, we should use a market-based strategy that gradually reduces harmful emissions in the most economical way,” he said. “Right here in Chicago, the Chicago Climate Exchange is already running a legally binding greenhouse gas trading system.”
The name check was gratifying for leaders of the burgeoning CCX, many of whom had spent the market’s early days trying to establish its legitimacy in both environmental and financial circles.
Although balancing the demands of both greens and venture capitalists is tricky -- and the exchange has generated plenty of criticism from the two camps -- the CCX has undergone serious growth in five short years and has solidified its role as the nation’s premiere carbon trading market. Now, with politicians and environmentalists clamoring for increased carbon regulation, it’s well situated to become a crucial player on the national stage."

Indeed.
43 posted on 11/02/2008 1:27:54 PM PST by browardchad
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To: romanesq

“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can,” Obama said. “It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”

Like so many other ignorant liberals, including most college professors, Obama doesn’t know the facts about greenhouse gases. First, they occur naturally in the atmosphere, and without them the earth would be too cold for humans. A major greenhouse gas is water vapor. Carbon dioxide, despite all the noise made by liberal morons, is only present in trace amounts. A recent estimate is less than 400 parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere.

Obama’s plan is to make the United States even more dependent on foreign oil, much of which comes from countries which are unfriendly to the U.S. -— countries such as Iran, Russia, and Venezuela. By crippling the generation of electricity using coal, opposing nuclear generation, making war against capitalism, instigating class warfare, and increasing taxes for almost all of us, Obama would push the U.S. into a deep, long-lasting economic depression. In short, he seeks to wreck our economy.

Then he would seek and likely get vast new extraordinary powers, become the new socialist dictator of Amerika.


44 posted on 11/02/2008 1:43:47 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: shadowspapa

Singin’ to the choir at those radio stations aren’t they. This information needs be disseminated throughout the Nation. Everybody will be effected by higher prices, as well supply.


45 posted on 11/02/2008 2:50:55 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: avg_freeper

Bump for the digg link!


46 posted on 11/02/2008 2:56:05 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: GOPGuide

Gotta bump this for tomorrow


47 posted on 11/02/2008 3:02:32 PM PST by engrpat
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To: GOPGuide

Centrally planned agriculture! Gee, what a novel idea! Worked so well in the Ukraine!


48 posted on 11/02/2008 3:15:43 PM PST by dr_who
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To: GOPGuide

Hey let’s turn into Zimbabwe! We’ll all be millionaires...then billionaires...then trillionaires...


49 posted on 11/02/2008 3:17:46 PM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: GOPGuide

Time to change my tagline.


50 posted on 11/02/2008 3:18:24 PM PST by Campion (Vote for Obama and Freeze and Starve in the Dark!)
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