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Hillary Can Kiss Her W. House Hopes Goodbye
NY Post ^ | 11/03/08 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 11/03/2008 4:23:50 AM PST by DocT111

PHILADELPHIA - Hillary Rodham Clinton is on her way to becoming the biggest loser of this election.

If he wins tomorrow, Barack Obama will certainly be his party's standard-bearer in 2012 - icing Clinton out of the White House for at least eight years.

And she'll be nearly 70 in 2016 - a young sprout compared to John McCain but probably too old to carry the flag for the newly recast party of youth and hope.

Until then, Clinton will be exiled to the Senate to serve out her second term, more like a sentence than a term for the former first lady, who will be a middle player in an increasingly fat Democratic majority.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; demprimary; hillary; mccain; mccainpalin; obama; palin
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Do you think this is a way to suppress PUMA votes?

I really don't believe Hillary will vote for Obama when she goes to pull the lever - neither will Bill.

Let's go vote!

1 posted on 11/03/2008 4:23:50 AM PST by DocT111
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To: DocT111

I used to like the NY Post.........


2 posted on 11/03/2008 4:25:05 AM PST by Phoenix11
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To: DocT111

MSM “new” math:

70 - young sprout
72 -ancient geezer


3 posted on 11/03/2008 4:27:18 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Welcome PUMAs!)
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To: DocT111

> Do you think this is a way to suppress PUMA votes?

It’s a good way to get PUMA votes to go with McCain. At least then The Beast has a chance in 2012.

Much as I don’t like the idea of The Beast as POTUS in 2012, it is an infinitely better prospect than having Obomber in the Oval Office for two terms.


4 posted on 11/03/2008 4:28:28 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DocT111
Do you think this is a way to ENRAGE PUMA votes?

There, I fixed it.

The NY Post was thrown off of Barry's plane last week because it endorsed McCain.

5 posted on 11/03/2008 4:29:30 AM PST by COUNTrecount (de Tocqueville ..."In a democracy the people get the government they deserve". ...)
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To: DocT111; Phoenix11
For the next 36 hours it will be fascinating to watch the comments and strategies of the real PUMAs around here versus the Obama trolls.
7 posted on 11/03/2008 4:29:48 AM PST by Cedric
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To: DocT111

Monkey muffins. This assumes a victory of Odumbo. When McCain wins, Hillary will start camapaigning for 2012 and the media will flock back to her.

So will the PUMA’s for that matter, but their help in defeating Ding Dong is greatly appreciated in the meantime.


8 posted on 11/03/2008 4:30:17 AM PST by prairiebreeze ( Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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To: COUNTrecount

The NY Post was thrown off too? I knew the Wash Times was..


9 posted on 11/03/2008 4:31:09 AM PST by prairiebreeze ( Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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To: DocT111

Well, It’s not written in a kind way, but it is a reminder to Hillary fans that if they vote for Obama, they are screwing any chance they may have for Hillary 2012.


10 posted on 11/03/2008 4:32:05 AM PST by beagleone (Stand up and fight. America is worth fighting for. Nothing is inevitable here. We never give up.)
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To: DocT111

I think Hurt’s trying to get the PUMAs motivated here. Vite McCain or Hil’s done.


11 posted on 11/03/2008 4:32:17 AM PST by nhwingut (,)
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To: DocT111
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12 posted on 11/03/2008 4:32:21 AM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: DocT111

All the more reason why 0bama will lose. I realize the Clintons have been out there in the last few days, but it hasn’t been getting great coverage. That’s likely because their support is minimal, and tepid, at best. They need 0bama to look like the inevitable choice, then fall harder than Hillary did in the primaries. That way, the “he had it in the palm of his hands and blew it” mantra can stick and cripple him for a 2012 run.


13 posted on 11/03/2008 4:32:30 AM PST by edpc
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To: DocT111

Divine Justice. That’s what you get for pardoning so-called “former” domestic terrorists.


14 posted on 11/03/2008 4:32:36 AM PST by pango
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To: DocT111
Do you think this is a way to suppress PUMA votes?

Just the opposite. It is trying to encourage PUMA votes. The message is: If Obama wins, Hillary's chances for the Presidency are gone. So the only hope is an Obama loss. The NYP must still be smarting from being kicked off the Messiah's plane.

15 posted on 11/03/2008 4:32:41 AM PST by kabar
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To: COUNTrecount
The NY Post was thrown off of Barry's plane last week because it endorsed McCain.

Oh, so the article is a snarky little hissy fit.

What they do not want to think about is that in the third year of CarterII, as he slinks from the ashes of the office in disgrace, H! will be there to save the day.

I used to think of H! as Satan Incarnate but compared to Obumba, she is but a minor deamon.

16 posted on 11/03/2008 4:34:30 AM PST by Gorzaloon (NRA Lifer. Since Waco.)
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To: DocT111

Hillary will run in ‘12. She will challange osamaobama, who despite the msm’s best attempt to protect him, will have a four year term that will actually make Carter look good. Carter had only the Russians to worry about (aside from that little problem with Iran).


17 posted on 11/03/2008 4:35:41 AM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: edpc

If McCain wins tomorrow, maybe the media will investigate obamma lamma ding dong a little more closely over the next few years.
His past, his associations, his family, etc.
I doubt it but ya never know.


18 posted on 11/03/2008 4:36:14 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: DocT111

If Hillary had shown the courage to renounce Obama - and taken the Independent path ala Joe Lieberman she would have shown loyalty to her supporters, disgust with the DNC crooks and thieves as well as solidified her PUMAS.

As it stands - she has stayed with a party that clearly disowned her for a less qualified, anti-American Marxist.

She will have serious regrets.


19 posted on 11/03/2008 4:36:33 AM PST by sodpoodle (Man studies evolution to understand His creation.)
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To: DocT111

No, at a minimum she’ll displace Harry Reid as Senate Majority leader. There is a quid pro quo in there somewhere. If Obama wins, the RATs will execute a large portion of their agenda and SML is a way for her to get her name on the stuff. If Obama loses, then as SML she will lead the opposition to McCain, building her resume for the showdown with Sarah in 2012.


20 posted on 11/03/2008 4:37:03 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience to the White House; Sen. Obama brings a speech)
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To: DocT111

Yeah, at least we have this going for us... The witch is dead.


21 posted on 11/03/2008 4:40:48 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: DocT111

Agreed! Neither Clinton will be voting for the big 0 and I imagine their home is littered with voodoo dolls with pins in it also!


22 posted on 11/03/2008 4:41:56 AM PST by leapfrog0202
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To: Joe Boucher

I would love to see Patrick Fitzgerald come today for Obama. :)


23 posted on 11/03/2008 4:43:58 AM PST by Phoenix11
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To: DocT111

If Obama is elected Hillary goes to the Supreme Court. That’s her consolation prize.


24 posted on 11/03/2008 4:44:50 AM PST by saganite (Obama (Senator Government) is a political STD)
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To: DocT111
What a shallow analysis.

Anyone who looks casually upon the current political landscape can draw only one conclusion: Hillary is in the catbird seat. If McCain wins, she'll run in 2012. The DNC will have learned from the Obama mistake (unlike the GOP) and will nominate and push a candidate who appears (and who has actually voted) a bit more to the center. That will be Hillary. And Hillary will be running after 12 years of Republicans. The odds are very much stacked against another 4 years of Republicans, no matter how good McCain and Palin and, and regardless of whether McCain steps down and Palin becomes the first US president.

If Obama wins, Hillary has most likely been promised a seat on the USSC, which she would be happy to take and hold on to for the rest of her career.

This is a win-win situation for Hillary, and it still sickens me, and it is why I still haven't changed my tag line from over a year ago.

25 posted on 11/03/2008 4:45:11 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: DocT111

So funny that we have to pull for Hillary running in ‘12 to get votes for our team this year. Who could have predicted this, LOL?


26 posted on 11/03/2008 4:45:22 AM PST by MDformerDem
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To: DocT111

That ain’t all she can kiss, thanks Rush.


27 posted on 11/03/2008 4:47:39 AM PST by Waco ( G00d bye 0'bombers)
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To: DocT111

Don’t be surprised to see Hillary run for NY Governor in 2010 and if Obama falters in 2012, I wouldn’t put it beyond her to see her challenge him for the Dem. nomination. The nation may be pretty tired of Obama by then.


28 posted on 11/03/2008 4:49:32 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I think she’s been promised *somthing* but not sure what. The line is too long for USSC — Cass Sunstein and Kmiec are ahead of her.


29 posted on 11/03/2008 4:51:12 AM PST by MDformerDem
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

This is true but I do believe she would have preferred to be the first woman president. So it is a set back. On the other hand she can do far more damage in the supreme court IMHO.


30 posted on 11/03/2008 4:55:29 AM PST by refermech
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To: VU4G10
Don't laugh yet, If obama gets in you can kiss this country Good=Bye.
Do you honestly think the Rats and obama will let go of the White House.
This country will be under COMMUNIST CONTROL, THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
Remember the Coal Mine in Utah that Clinton ILLEGALLY closed down, He was to take a couple of acres of land instead it turned out to be a massive land grab, closing down the Coal mine, a mine that was left to the State and for the Education of the children of that state. The Liberal,COMMUNIST judges let Clinton get away with it, that's why we buy coal from foreign countries. obama is doing what Clinton and his administration started.
The melt down, Greenspan, Bob Rubin started the ball rolling.
Another thing we have to worry about is the control of the house and the senate.
For years the communist party has tried to take over our government. They get in and take over the key spots so that there is not chance of stopping them.
Why isn't there a call for the removal of the criminals in office. The people have got to stop it. The criminals investigating themselves.
THE HALL OF CONGRESS ARE LINED WITH CRIMINALS, TREASON, CHILD PROSTITUTION, PROSTITUTION, MONEY LAUNDERING, BRIBES, BLACKMAIL. These con artist are the best in the business, look at obama.
obama now saying you can open a coal business but under his plan you will go bankrupt and energy prices will skyrocket.
THESE COMMUNIST NUT CASE SCARES ME.
31 posted on 11/03/2008 4:56:34 AM PST by rebapiper
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Much as I don’t like the idea of The Beast as POTUS in 2012, it is an infinitely better prospect than having Obomber in the Oval Office for two terms.

Its even a better prospect than having Obomber in the Oval Office for one term.

32 posted on 11/03/2008 5:02:17 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: DocT111
This is ABSOLUTELY a an article meant to FIRE UP THE PUMAS FOR REVENGE!

1]The only way for Hillary to have a shot in 2012 is for NObama to lose. We have 4 years to so thoroughly discredit this charlatan that he will never have a shot at POTUS again.

2] As PUMA extraordinaire Dr. Lynette Long pointed out, those supporters who are writing Hillary in are making a mistake, because if NObama were to win, he will extract 50 political lashes from her for every Hillary vote that "should have gone to him". It's so obvious that she's been just a hostage going through the motions on NObama's campaign. We know it, and he knows it.

3] Not voting at all will not hurt BHussein one bit and savvy voters know it. The ONLY way to battle him and his gigantic messianic ego is to ensure his loss by lifting up McCain with the vote.

33 posted on 11/03/2008 5:02:52 AM PST by Sisku Hanne (The day begins and ends in Alaska.)
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To: nhwingut

I agree, I actually thought this could be looked at as “biased” against Obama, hoping Hillary voters realize that their candidate would never be president if Obama wins. However, it’s also appropriate to say that the MSM doesn’t even approach the issue even though it’s an obvious question.


34 posted on 11/03/2008 5:04:27 AM PST by soloNYer
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This is great news. This is one of the side benefits of this dismal campaign season. We might be rid of the Clintons forever.

And I must admit it has been fun to see PIAPS(Pig in a Pantsuit Hillary) and her pervert husband’s campaign go down in flames. Now the world knows what spoiled brats they are.

Now if McCain can only beat her successor that would be perfect.


35 posted on 11/03/2008 5:06:51 AM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (Praise the Lord, we will never have to hear the words "President Hillary Rodham Clinton")
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To: DocT111

A rat in the white house is worth more than a rat in the pants suit


36 posted on 11/03/2008 5:08:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ferengi?.....Probably not, but he sure has the lobes)
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To: nhwingut
I saw on CSpan that 300,000 or the early vote in FL were for democrats. Let's hope most of those are PUMA’s if not were are the republican?
37 posted on 11/03/2008 5:09:37 AM PST by teacherbarbie (I would go into politics, but I like to keep my youthful looks.)
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To: refermech

I think you’re right. But leftists who dedicate their lives to “the cause” always have alternate routes and they content themselves with the conviction that all benefit the cause. Yes, she wanted to be the first woman president and it will be a setback, but if she ends up in another position that gives her rule over the people, she’ll find contentment.

But never underestimate these greedy radicals. She may yet find a way to be the first woman president.


38 posted on 11/03/2008 5:10:47 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: DocT111

I could never figure this out:

Who is the more liberal, Obama or Hillary Clinton?


39 posted on 11/03/2008 5:11:42 AM PST by WilliamReading
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To: DocT111
McCain is going to win and HRC will be relieved and not just because it gives her a shot at the WH in 2012...

She is corrupt, liberal and a nut-case in her own way — if she were ever President she would surely screw some stuff up badly — but,deep-down, she doesn't fundamentally HATE America...

I believe she would vote for gwb again over Obama — McCain is a no brainer for her... Honestly, is there anyone who thinks Obama likes HRC more than McCain does?

HRC is Trotsky to BHO as Lenin — if he becomes President (may god forbid) — he will look to marginalize her or dispose of her... he will be MOST ruthless in his pursuit of dissent in his own party (that's always what Socialists tyrants do first)

40 posted on 11/03/2008 5:19:27 AM PST by NYC_BULLMOOSE ("extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" -- BG)
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To: DocT111

I’m not sure that even the dims will want him in office after he has been there a month. It may be way too early to count out the Beast.


41 posted on 11/03/2008 5:20:59 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (The Supreme Court must verify that Baraq Hussein 0bama is "native born"!)
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To: prairiebreeze
Monkey muffins.

Never heard that one before! Good line.

42 posted on 11/03/2008 5:21:14 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: DocT111

This is something that I will always wonder about. What if Hillary had been nominated?

The Clintons are moral-less cheats but they atleast are PROUD to be Americans.

I am astounded that a guy who hates America has a 48% chance of becoming President.

Who knew after the bitter 90s that I would now start thinking of Bill Clinton as “moderate” Democrat.

I used to utterly despise him in the 90s. Now he positively looks like Ronald Reagan compared to the Marxist running for the Presidency.

The biggest loser may be Hillary Clinton (as the author says).

The biggest winner definitely is Bill Clinton as millions of Republicans are now saying.. “Bill.. compared to Obama... you are fantastic... come back! Just keep away from the interns.. please”


43 posted on 11/03/2008 5:22:07 AM PST by SoftwareEngineer
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And she'll be nearly 70 in 2016 - a young sprout compared to John McCain but probably too old to carry the flag

so long as the beast draws breath she is dangerous

44 posted on 11/03/2008 5:23:05 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: Joe Boucher
If McCain wins tomorrow, maybe the media will investigate obamma lamma ding dong a little more closely over the next few years.

I propose another idea. If McCain wins tomorrow, the media will have totally lost all credibility and might even go broke. We will then have a window of opportunity to correct the MSM image of conservatives as evil. If we are successful, we may even keep some PUMA's on our side even in an event of a Hillary run in 2012.

45 posted on 11/03/2008 5:24:08 AM PST by EarlyBird (Don't listen to the socialist propaganda: McCain will win easily -- with your vote, of course.)
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To: DocT111
I have no doubt that Hillary and agents, started the PUMA effort, the same way Saddam laid the plans for the Insurgency in Iraq.
46 posted on 11/03/2008 5:24:12 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: WilliamReading
not even close...

BHO is a SOCIALIST — that is not hyperbole, it is fact.

Obama is a possible Chavez or Castro — Hillary? like a center-left European bureaucrat...

Hillary has never called for the creation of a Domestic Political Police force — BHO can imagine life without one...

Don't get me wrong — hrc sucks and would screw up our economy etc... but she is Barry Goldwater compared to BHO.

47 posted on 11/03/2008 5:24:13 AM PST by NYC_BULLMOOSE ("extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" -- BG)
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To: WilliamReading
I could never figure this out: Who is the more liberal, Obama or Hillary Clinton?

That One once belonged to the New Party.

48 posted on 11/03/2008 5:24:28 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
The biggest winner definitely is Bill Clinton as millions of Republicans are now saying.. “Bill.. compared to Obama... you are fantastic... come back! Just keep away from the interns.. please”

BS, newbie!

49 posted on 11/03/2008 5:25:23 AM PST by Cedric
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To: AmericaUnited
maybe — but have no doubt — PUMA’s are real, and they are passionate and they may even hate bho as much as we do... and UNLIKE us — they actually have a chance at changing the minds of some Dem Voters... we may not feel like kindred spirits forever, but for now I wish them good luck and godspeed
50 posted on 11/03/2008 5:26:27 AM PST by NYC_BULLMOOSE ("extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" -- BG)
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