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To: P-Marlowe; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; enat

I am shocked that they were able to call Ohio so soon after the polls closed.

I noticed a huge early vote lead for Obama out of Cuyahoga county (Cleveland), at the rate of 2:1 for Obama. I wondered if that included the early ballots that were questioned.

It doesn’t matter at this point. They showed a bar at Ohio State University and the students were cheering. Three kids at a table were asked what it meant. Two of the three said they wanted student grant money to increase.

As the south of the state comes in, it will be overwhelmingly pro-McCain, so the final numbers in Ohio will be much closer.

The truth is, though, that I don’t know this state anymore.

Like you say, though, life is the issue. I’ll get to this tomorrow, but McCain was a terrible candidate. Not once did he make life a focus of attack. He didn’t nail down the issue of supreme court justices. He didn’t hit guns. He never once promised to LOWER taxes. He didn’t touch on crime.

In short, name a conservative issue, and McCain didn’t hit it.

George W. Bush: ultimately this entire fiasco in 2006 and 2008 gets laid at GW’s doorstep. His absolutely idiotic, stubborn refusal to defend his actions in Iraq reference WMDs and Al Qaeda got the ball rolling. It is also GW who started the infighting in the conservative base in 2006 with his illegal alien and Dubai Ports and Harriet Miers inspirations.

He’ll get credit for defending this nation after the 9/11 attack, but his incompetence in dealing with attacks on his reason for being there is what killed these two elections.

If we can win WWII in 4 years, then the difference was leadership.

Nail me on this if you wish, but I’m now allowed to say it.

And now idiot Obama is going to pull out in 16 months NO MATTER WHAT. That means that every American killed there in the next 16 months is a wasted life.

My America has gone socialist. Babies will continue to be sacrificed to Molech. God will be angry with this people, and His judgment will come.


143 posted on 11/04/2008 7:40:20 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: xzins; All

Unlike Goldberg's, half of this new book is actually devoted to the solution to reclaim traditional America.  Time to get reading.

152 posted on 11/04/2008 7:55:19 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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To: xzins; enat; Gamecock
My America has gone socialist. Babies will continue to be sacrificed to Molech. God will be angry with this people, and His judgment will come.

I had a long discussion with another attorney today. He claimed to be a Christian. He apparently is fairly active in a Baptist church and attends weekly Bible studies. To my amazement he told me that he voted for Obama. I flat out told him that I could not imagine how any Christian could possibly vote for Obama. He apparently was completely ignorant of Obama's radical stand on the issue of late-term abortions, and the born alive act. He gave me the standard "excuse" that "nobody is for abortion" and that somehow he was convinced that Obama was against abortion.

I explained to him how angry God was at the worshipers of Molech and Baal, and how his anger was stirred by the fact that they were sacrificing their children. I pointed out to him that there is literally no difference between sacrificing your child to Molech and aborting your child for economic reasons. I pointed out to him that 99.9% of abortions are for economic reasons and that less than 1/10 of 1% are necessitated by "rape, incest, or the life of the mother."

I also pointed out to him that God's judgment came down upon those nations that practiced child sacrifice. I pointed out how God utterly destroyed those nations, ordering the Israelites to kill every man, woman, child, God, of course, chicken, and anything else that was living and not to take anything out from the city that he ordered destroyed.

what amazed me was his utter and complete lack of understanding of the issue of the life of the unborn and Obama's peculiar stand on the issue. All he could do is make excuses for his choice to vote for Obama. I pointed out that I could not possibly see how any Christian, knowing the stand of Obama on the issue of life could possibly vote for him for president.

Unfortunately after I was done speaking with him, I was fairly well convinced at that point that Obama was going to get elected. There are simply too many "Christians" like him. There are simply too many "Christians" who think that the issues of economics, the so-called plight of the poor, and the unfairness of wealth distribution are somehow more important than the life of our posterity.

I fear that the same kind of judgment that was brought upon the nations in the Old Testament that practiced child sacrifice will be brought upon this nation at some time in the near or not to distant future.

Apparently America has spoken. Apparently America has made its choice.

This is a sad day for America. To paraphrase Michelle Obama, this is the first day in my life where I have been ashamed to be an American.

(Deuteronomy 30:19 KJV) I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

May God have Mercy on us all.

154 posted on 11/04/2008 7:58:09 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; enat

Sigh


179 posted on 11/04/2008 8:38:43 PM PST by Gamecock ("...Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles" and both to Americans.)
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