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Polls (Obama +11.7%) Actual Vote (Obama +0.36%) - Pre-Election Polls Are Obviously Rigged
http://zogby.com/ ^ | 11/4/08

Posted on 11/04/2008 6:38:32 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

According to the popular vote so far, out of 25,907,049 votes counted, McCain has 12,904,704 (49.82%) and Obama has 13,002,345 (50.18%), which is an Obama lead of (.36%).

Meanwhile, the Zogby/Reuters/C-Span poll shows Obama 54.1, McCain 42.7, which is an Obama lead of (11.4%)

Does anyone believe the polls are accurate? Does anyone believe that the liberal media, liberal interest groups, and activists are not intentionally misstating polling data?

"Scientific" Polls (Obama +11.4%)
Actual vote (Obama +0.36%)


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: electionpresident

1 posted on 11/04/2008 6:38:34 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

The point of the “polls” is to discourage Republicans from bothering to vote; not to accurately forecast the election.


2 posted on 11/04/2008 6:40:43 PM PST by Redcloak (Will America elect a Gaius Baltar or a Laura Roslin today?)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

I am of the firm opinion that many major pre-election polls are adjusted (by whatever method) to act as a massive psy-op on the american voters, creating a sense of inevitability about obama’s victory. I see no other realpolitikally rational explanation.


3 posted on 11/04/2008 6:41:50 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

This thread is nonsense in itself. It shows a zogby.com website but the link is to Drudge. Zogby has no such information. Drudge just went down.

Please post the actual link.


4 posted on 11/04/2008 6:45:08 PM PST by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: Redcloak
No doubt whatsoever. Think of this for a minute.

1) The media has been relentless in attacking Bush for 8 years.
2) The media has refused to vet Obama, or his wife, or his close associations.
3) The media has brutalized McCain and Palin compared to the Obama Biden coverage.
4) The media has repeatedly pushed obviously inaccurate polls, on numerous topics.
5) The media has refused to seriously cover the voter fraud committed by the Democrats and Obama campaign staff.

Is it any doubt that this election, which in terms of popular vote, will be won by 1 or 2 percent, has been influenced by the media?
5 posted on 11/04/2008 6:45:53 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Let's not forget the numerous people who bragged about lying to exit pollsters, just to fool them. Well, the problem with that strategy is that it makes numbers look good for the other side, which doesn't help us.

If an exit pollster asks you who you voted for, I would strongly recommend telling the truth so that our side gets the most benefit possible from a system that is rigged to help the opposition.

6 posted on 11/04/2008 6:48:30 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

If this holds up the Battleground Poll will come up again as the most accurate.


7 posted on 11/04/2008 6:49:40 PM PST by David1
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To: Kevmo
The popular vote numbers are from Drudge.
The Zogby numbers are from Zogby.
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8 posted on 11/04/2008 6:53:17 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Does anyone believe the polls are accurate? Does anyone believe that the liberal media, liberal interest groups, and activists are not intentionally misstating polling data?

C'mon, a 0.36% gap is a landslide.

Seriously, I'm so angry I could spit. The drive-by's call Rush someone on "the fringe." But who's been telling us all month to disregard the polls until the final week before the election? And who was telling us today to turn off our TVs and ignore the drive-by psy-operation?

Damn right, it was Rush.

To hell with the drive-bys. I haven't watched any TV coverage today, including FOX. Sorry Brit, the "All-Star" lies at the last debate were the final straw.

9 posted on 11/04/2008 6:54:46 PM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Obama isn’t going to win by 11, sure. But why can’t we wait a day to have this post? Do you really think when the NY and CA returns come blowing through (NY trickling in slooowly) that Obama’s lead will stay that small?


10 posted on 11/04/2008 6:55:21 PM PST by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: ER_in_OC,CA

Well, here’s the problem I have with the polls. As a former statistics student and social science degree holder, I have a basic understanding of how statistic and polling works. The larger the sample size, the more accurate the results. All of these bullsh*t poll headlines from the liberal media are obviously bunk, because we now have a 25million sample size, and it’s basically a tie with Obama a tiny sliver ahead.


11 posted on 11/04/2008 6:58:00 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

A lead of 0.36 bought with $700 Million!

A media which ignored:

Ayers

Wright

Rezco

Numerous other things about the man.

It is amazing it is as close as it is with all of the propaganda.

But sadly, in the end, people fell for it.

Will we ever get our nation back from the likes of propagandists such as MSDNC?


12 posted on 11/04/2008 7:00:40 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama is not qualified for the FBI, but he is qualified for the Presidency????)
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Ohio Secretary of State election results site shows different results than the networks
Ohio Secretary of State webiste | 11/4/2008 | Ohio SoS
Posted on 11/04/2008 6:47:32 PM PST by Pete
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2125257/posts

McCain wins Wyoming
Boston Herald | November 4, 2008 | AP
Posted on 11/04/2008 6:52:18 PM PST by Kukai
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2125260/posts

McCain wins Texas, news reports say
Market Watch | Nov. 4, 2008 | Russ Britt
Posted on 11/04/2008 6:54:46 PM PST by Kukai
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2125264/posts


13 posted on 11/04/2008 7:02:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This is a dying republic. The minute McCain concedes is pulling the life-support plug. Amerika can’t afford one term of a marxist government.


14 posted on 11/04/2008 7:19:03 PM PST by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: Redcloak

In a situation where you strongly disagree with both candidates, knowing who is projected to win in advance should motivate you to vote for the loser. That way you have a clear conscience because none of the bad things that McCain would have done will happen anyway while all of the bad things that Obama will do actually do get to happen. The problem is that people don’t think about these things rationally. The objective of voting should be to be able to live with yourself afterwards and not to jump on the bandwagon of the winning team.


15 posted on 11/04/2008 7:30:56 PM PST by ganesha
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To: ganesha

That’s the exact opposite of how most people think. They want to be on the winning side; to “back the strong horse”, as a certain cave-bound Obama supporter might say.


16 posted on 11/04/2008 7:37:49 PM PST by Redcloak (Drinks so far tonight: One homemade beer, two shots of Scotch)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Margin of error is a word never heard about whenever a poll is givn...i say i have heard poll 5000 poll results in last 2 years i can only remember 1 or 2 ..


17 posted on 11/04/2008 7:38:26 PM PST by Robertfreetoday (Polls are way to draw a crowd..." i have a poll")
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
TOTAL: 98,081,544
OBAMA: 50,937,491 (51.9%)
MCCAIN: 47,144,053 (48.1%)
3.8%
18 posted on 11/04/2008 10:30:54 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Hey the polls were trying to be accurate. They just did not factor in the long lines at the polls. If the lines had been normal, Acorn could have voted millions of more times and the polls would have been much more accurate.

Our election was stolen, not so much by vote, but by shrewd planning by Marxists and a lot of foreign money.

Our army did not loose the war, our college students did.

Fitting, isn’t it?


19 posted on 11/04/2008 10:37:56 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

um...the polls were accurate. You based your .36 a little to early in the night. BattleGround seems to have been right on. Theirs seems to be the least biased of the bunch. Probably someone else got closer to the final number, but all of the except battle ground bounced around all over the place the weeks before hand.


20 posted on 11/05/2008 5:21:12 PM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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