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Youth vote may have been key in Obama's win
MSNBC ^ | 2008-11-05 | Melissa Dahl

Posted on 11/04/2008 10:39:03 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Early reports are indicating that the youngest members of the country's electorate voted Tuesday in higher numbers than in the last presidential election — and they voted more Democratic. Youth turnout appears to be exceeding 2004 levels, which was itself a year with a big surge in voters ages 18 to 29.

“We expected record turnout, and that is what we’re seeing right now,” says Heather Smith, a spokeswoman for Rock the Vote, an organization that works to encourage young people to register and vote in every election.

What’s more, young voters may prove to have been the key to Barack Obama's victory. Young voters preferred Obama over John McCain by 68 to 30 percent — the highest share of the youth vote obtained by any candidate since exit polls began reporting results by age in 1976, according to CIRCLE, a non-partisan organization which promotes research on the political engagement of Americans between ages 15 and 25.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; collegevote; election; electionpresident; elections; va2008; youthvote
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Every one I know here at U.Va. voted. The majority went for...Obama. Even quite a few conservatives.
1 posted on 11/04/2008 10:39:04 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

The GOPers stayed home.


2 posted on 11/04/2008 10:39:41 PM PST by Perdogg (Obama will not be my President)
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To: rabscuttle385

Well, the Republicans ran a freaking DINOSAUR!


3 posted on 11/04/2008 10:40:37 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Bush Sr, Bob Dole, Bush Jr, McCain...)
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To: rabscuttle385

The youth voted the way they have been EDUCATED to vote.

Enough said.


4 posted on 11/04/2008 10:40:45 PM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: rabscuttle385
A silver lining is that the young will suffer the most.

5 posted on 11/04/2008 10:41:02 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: All

Why wouldn’t they like him he was promising free stuff. Everyone likes free stuff don’t they?


6 posted on 11/04/2008 10:41:04 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Fact is the Dems have expanded their base. They have the blacks, the youth and now the hispanics.


7 posted on 11/04/2008 10:41:06 PM PST by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: Perdogg

Yep...they fell for the media crap.

It was nice pinging back and forth with you throughout the whole ordeal though. Hope you keep me on the list. :)


8 posted on 11/04/2008 10:41:34 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Linux FTW!)
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To: rabscuttle385

What is ironic about this is that THEY are the ones who will pay in the long run for everything their Wonder boy is about to do to this country. It’s called shooting yourself in the foot.


9 posted on 11/04/2008 10:41:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

same here. I hope we survive.


10 posted on 11/04/2008 10:42:12 PM PST by Perdogg (Obama will not be my President)
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To: rabscuttle385

They say this EVERY year election year, and when it’s all said and done and the numbers come in, it’s not true.
Youth vote will be up slightly, but this race was not won by college kids..get real.


11 posted on 11/04/2008 10:42:34 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: rabscuttle385

Let them eat pie.


12 posted on 11/04/2008 10:42:40 PM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: rabscuttle385

Mac did everything he could to alienate the youth vote with the exception to scream at them to keep off his lawn.


13 posted on 11/04/2008 10:43:18 PM PST by durasell
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To: rabscuttle385

So the gimme generation put us in this mess. Figures!


14 posted on 11/04/2008 10:43:21 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: rabscuttle385

Young White females in particular. The Hiphop has a little something to do with his popularity among youth.

Of course, running a 200 year old man didn’t help. Romney would have scored more votes among the youth.

I’m not a big Romney fan, but he would have at least looked like Obama’s equal in terms of appearance. Looks are important in politics, that’s reality.


15 posted on 11/04/2008 10:43:35 PM PST by grizzly84
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To: Jeff Chandler
Well, the Republicans ran a freaking DINOSAUR!

Well said.

RightWingIt.com

16 posted on 11/04/2008 10:43:48 PM PST by GaryLee1990 (www.RightWingIt.com)
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To: Perdogg

All isn’t lost yet. We’re gonna take some hits for sure, but hopefully we can weather the storm and come out stronger.


17 posted on 11/04/2008 10:43:53 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Linux FTW!)
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To: Danae
"The youth voted the way they have been EDUCATED to vote"
BS! Everyone of them has a brain and access to the truth. Eyes wide open. Don't excuse the scum. Don't.

18 posted on 11/04/2008 10:43:55 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think should shouldn’t be able to vote unless you either pay taxes or are in the military.

The youth vote is crap. Most of those people have no idea what they are really voting for. They are being influenced(manipulated) by the media and pop-culture in general.


19 posted on 11/04/2008 10:43:59 PM PST by KoRn
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To: rabscuttle385

Parents, I can’t say it often enough: GET YOUR KIDS OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS!

—former public school teacher and parent


20 posted on 11/04/2008 10:44:08 PM PST by Elvina (The average IQ in America is 100. Half are operating in the double-digits --as seen tonight.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ah, it’s easy to bash the loser.


21 posted on 11/04/2008 10:44:28 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light)
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To: rabscuttle385

Fox said the percent of young voters went from 17% to 18%. They rose slightly more than the voter rolls overall.

This election was won because some GOP voters crossed over, some didn’t vote, and many GOP voters from 2004 are either IND or DEM now. We have lost a lot of ground.


22 posted on 11/04/2008 10:45:03 PM PST by ilgipper (Does Obama have even ONE friend who is PRO America?)
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To: SolidWood
Ah, it’s easy to bash the loser.

I have NEVER liked McCain, but I stopped bashing him when he got the nomination.

The election is over.

23 posted on 11/04/2008 10:45:43 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Bush Sr, Bob Dole, Bush Jr, McCain...)
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To: rabscuttle385

The Democrats really need to push the voting age down to 5. The base of politically brainless would expand their base even more.


24 posted on 11/04/2008 10:47:12 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: pepperhead

sadly the youth will pay the highest price of all—poor job market due to poor economy, national debt that will choke the nation going forward, eroding moral base for their children. Basically, they bought ocean front property in Kansas—as the say a sucker born every minute. Sad, Very sad!


25 posted on 11/04/2008 10:47:32 PM PST by bushwon
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To: Def Conservative
Fact is the Dems have expanded their base. They have the blacks, the youth and now the hispanics.

The GOP has to somehow succeed in reaching out to minorities or else we are screwed. It is so frustrating since blacks and Hispanics are acutually socially conservative on issues like gay marriage or abortion.

I don't know what it will take to win them over.

26 posted on 11/04/2008 10:47:50 PM PST by eekitsagreek (Give me a Stanley Cup (or Amy Grant) PLEASE!)
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To: I see my hands

The college students I am exposed to wanted someone “smart” running the country. Never determined if they had any other reasoning.


27 posted on 11/04/2008 10:49:50 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit ((Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding))
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To: rabscuttle385
Dumb little shits with heads filled with mush by Public Indoctrination Centers - TRAINING instead of EDUCATING as prescribed by none other than AYERS....

Yes, AYERS —— that Communist who lives in Obama’s neighborhood......and was a ghost writer for Obama’s books....

The Nation's Teacher's Unions in large measure OWN the Obama Albatross hanging around the nation's neck.....

28 posted on 11/04/2008 10:50:50 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: eekitsagreek

Forget the blacks.

Focus on the Hispanics, especially those coming from socialist countries...they are OUR voters we just have to reach out to them.

I also think that we need to stop chiding GOPers who speak to largely Hispanic audiences.


29 posted on 11/04/2008 10:50:58 PM PST by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: Danae

I can proudly say, my son, voting for the first time today, voted the way I educated him to vote (homeschooled and so very proud of him).

Needless to say, he is heartbroken tonight. For so very many reasons.


30 posted on 11/04/2008 10:51:20 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit ((Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding))
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To: ilgipper

I think you should add some people voting for one of their own instead of their morals, ideals. When I saw many young black people on Fox today so proud they had voted for the man that is so aggressively for destroying their unborn children, that had to be the only explanation.


31 posted on 11/04/2008 10:54:02 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit ((Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding))
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To: Def Conservative

NO! The fact is that since the beginning of the primaries, the MSM ran the campaign. CUT AND DRY!

They purposefully wasted resources on non-stories while at the same time completely ignoring or dismissing important stories of Obama’s true agenda, associates, and background starting with what he did in Columbia and Harvard and how and by whom that was even funded.


32 posted on 11/04/2008 10:59:53 PM PST by diverteach (http://foolishpleasurestudio.com/eyewool/slap_hillary.html)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
"The college students I am exposed to wanted someone “smart” running the country. Never determined if they had any other reasoning."

And, pray tell - what possible evidence of "smart" did they have????

He froze access to all his school records.
He is suspected of having a ghost writer for his book -- Ayers..
He hasn't proposed a single piece of significant legislation his entire time in public "service"..
The Chicago neighborhood he "organized" is still a ghetto slum and crime ridden mess..
He wasn't smart enough to realize after 20 years, that his pastor was a black racist, Communist and probably a closet Muslim..
He wasn't smart enough to discover his friend Ayers was NOT reformed - and even stated so repeatedly while Obama knew him..
He hasn't explained why he refused to make public his medical, CAMPAIGN DONATION RECORDS FOR ALL DONORS or birth records.

Cunning and Corrupt is NOT "smart"....it's clever....but not intelligent...

There IS a difference.

33 posted on 11/04/2008 11:00:05 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Well, the youth vote may not have been much higher than in ‘04 - probably because they couldn’t wait in line once their iPod batteries ran out - the GenYers are used to being taken care of and told they are the greatest thing under the sun and so much smarter than the grown ups - this plays right into the liberals’ hands. I was born in the early 70s and remember not always getting my way and being taught that nothing in life is free. It makes sense that Obama is the choice for a generation of serfs.


34 posted on 11/04/2008 11:00:37 PM PST by nickm71
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To: rabscuttle385

I wonder how they’ll feel in a year or two when they’re all unemployed?


35 posted on 11/04/2008 11:02:16 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: rabscuttle385

Not surprising. Individuals without much responsibility, little to no experience in the private sector, little to no experience having to support themselves, and susceptible to peer pressure and the influence of the usual cast of left-wing professors who are also without much responsibility and experience in the private sector. When life consists of a subsidized existence in which you are free to screw around every day, then yeah, the hope and change candidate probably sounds pretty good.

I still believe we should amend the Constitution such that if you did not pay federal income taxes last year, you are not eligible to vote. Yeah, I know the million reasons that would never come to pass, but it’s clear that our nation’s future is increasingly being shaped by a large group of people who are not subject to reality and who do not have to pay for the results of their electoral decisions.

Of course, perhaps some day some of them will actually have to take care of themselves. If the Messiah gets his way and their upper middle class parents end up getting soaked by Uncle Sam, then perhaps these kids will find out sooner rather than later. Then again, a lot of their parents are also lining up with their hat in hand looking for the government to give them shit.

I think we as a nation need to rethink the extended childhood many of our nation’s young enjoy.


36 posted on 11/04/2008 11:02:58 PM PST by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: diverteach

Well if the MSM was the cause of this mess then we deserved to win. We’ve known that they have been in the tank for the libtars for over 20 years...

We should stop giving the media outlets ANY credit, stop acting shocked by their moves, just refer to them as the wing of the Democrat party they are.


37 posted on 11/04/2008 11:04:03 PM PST by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: rabscuttle385
Yeah, and it had nothing to do with

A. ACORN
B. A spectacularly dickless Justice Department
C. A stupendously complicit media

38 posted on 11/04/2008 11:04:27 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Harry Wurzbach

And we should call them the dumb welfare kings and queens they are. They’ve managed to paint the GOP as out of touch, stupid and uber rich...we should do the same.


39 posted on 11/04/2008 11:04:58 PM PST by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: river rat; All

The reason Hussein is tyrant extraordinaire is because of massive voter fraud, not because the youth voted.


40 posted on 11/04/2008 11:05:22 PM PST by This Just In
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To: Def Conservative

I thoughtthe same thing in Virginia when the New Yorkers and Jersites started flocking into te state. I figured they wanted to get out of their cesspools and enjoy a better life for their families. As it tured out, what they really wanted was cheap real estate and to turn Virginia into another cesspool like Jersey.

My guess is that the influx of Hispanics, by and large, are coming into this country for the same reasons. They figure our government will take care of their welfare needs better than their own government does. Scialism is what they are seeking,..they see it only as trading up.


41 posted on 11/04/2008 11:08:09 PM PST by RonnG
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To: RonnG

well then if thats the case then we may as well give up on them all and since we’re losing voters and have no interest in getting any minority on our side we should call it a wrap. conservatism is dead in the last place it had a chance.


42 posted on 11/04/2008 11:15:58 PM PST by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: Def Conservative

The problem is that while those hispanics are socially conservative (see the bans on gay marriage, for example), they’re pretty economically liberal. Obama’s spread the wealth message was very appealing to them. I’m not sure how much we can really reach out to them without losing the business vote. That’s the hard part.


43 posted on 11/04/2008 11:19:57 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: This Just In
"The reason Hussein is tyrant extraordinaire is because of massive voter fraud, not because the youth voted."

I doubt that. Fraud certainly occurred - but there has been insufficient evidence to date to believe it made a difference. And of the "yoots" I've observed here in Kalifornicate -- they are more than 50% suspect of being incapable of intelligent or rational thought.

Decades of Public Schools/Universities under the control of "Progressives, Leftist, Communists" played a major role.

A Media that has become an advocate rather than the unbiased collector of information and truth - was a real factor.

Then the fact that folks have been granted the privilege to vote who have not EARNED that privilege.

Folks are voting who are incapable or unwilling to be productive members of society -- LEACHES....THUGS....and various and sundry POS....

44 posted on 11/04/2008 11:20:28 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: rabscuttle385

No, it wasn’t the youth vote. It was the criminal activity of voting a hundred times by one person or more.


45 posted on 11/04/2008 11:22:15 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: river rat

I can guarantee you not a single college kid who voted for O considered a single point you bring up.

It is all about perception... and it is perceived, um, ah, well, let me explain it this way, that O is smart.

:-(.


46 posted on 11/04/2008 11:22:30 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit ((Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding))
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To: Perdogg

I think our loss has more to do with independents, young people, and the welfare gang falling in love with Obama’s class warfare speak during rough economic times. That message can be very appealing if one doesn’t understand economics. Stupid idiot voters. Grrr.


47 posted on 11/04/2008 11:22:50 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: river rat

I completely agree with most of your statements. I’ll also add that the illegals voted as well.

“...insufficient evidence...”

Yes, just as there is insufficient evidence that Hussein isn’t an American(?) Or insufficient evidence involving Hussein’s education, relationships with Communists, terrorists, and Socialists(?)

As I said, Hussein was not elected.


48 posted on 11/04/2008 11:30:00 PM PST by This Just In
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To: diverteach

And of course, let’s not forget that they (the media) gave us exactly the candidate that Obama could beat. Imagine someone like Guiliani or Thompson in one of those debates.


49 posted on 11/04/2008 11:36:00 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / attention John McCain: this space available)
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To: This Just In

Agreed, this election was stolen. Now we have to collect the evidence, and get it out, somehow.


50 posted on 11/04/2008 11:38:03 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics)
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