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Alaska Senate Race: Ted Stevens Beats Mark Begich
Right Pundits ^

Posted on 11/05/2008 3:04:54 AM PST by lewisglad

Right Pundits is calling a surprising winner in the Alaska Senate race, incumbent Senator Ted Stevens over Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich. Stevens leads by enough votes in today’s count to overcome any deviation from the absentee ballots which are yet to be counted.

To outsiders in the lower 48 states, we have difficulty understanding the result. How can a convicted felon be reelected to office in a year which favors Democrats? The guy was just found guilty of corruption, lying about seven provisions of the Ethics in Government Act. No brainer.

The answer is Sarah Palin. So while liberals in the media savaged her, Alaskans flocked to the polls to vote for their native daughter and John McCain on November 4th. They like their governor and they are angry at Democrats for savaging their leader.

They took out their wrath on Mark Begich. She had undeniable coattails, and Ted Stevens was the beneficiary of them to the chagrin of Democrats in Alaska and everywhere.

It is unclear if Ted Stevens will be able to serve in the Senate. Unless the conviction is overturned on appeal, he faces certain expulsion from the partisan Democrat Senate. If he cannot serve, Sarah Palin will ironically appoint his successor, enacting another pound of flesh on the Democrats. Politics is so interesting.


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1 posted on 11/05/2008 3:04:54 AM PST by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

prediction..he’ll die in office when his car hits a moose when he is back in AK and Palin will take over!


2 posted on 11/05/2008 3:06:47 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: lewisglad
The Democrats can expel him but Alaska will just send another Republican up in his place. If they want to get partisan, next year is going to be very ugly. All in all, a good thing indeed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 11/05/2008 3:07:07 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: lewisglad
Ted Stevens wins.

Oh, the irony.

4 posted on 11/05/2008 3:08:14 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

And that is all they have worry about? Sheesh!!


5 posted on 11/05/2008 3:12:28 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican (Sarah: I'm not going to just go along to get along.)
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To: lewisglad

[How can a convicted felon be reelected to office in a year which favors Democrats?]

Perhaps they are not as heavily innudated with illegal immigrants and acorn democrat socialists as the rest of America is now. It is just a matter of time.
The frog is cooking and is almost dead.
It is time to remember God and pray and humble ourselves lest we all are destroyed together.


6 posted on 11/05/2008 3:24:21 AM PST by kindred (Known unto God are all His works from the beginning. Jesus is Christ and Saviour .)
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To: lewisglad

Amazing. This country keeps electing crooks.


7 posted on 11/05/2008 3:25:14 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: lewisglad
Bush can give him a pardon on the way out just to shove it in the Rat's faces.
8 posted on 11/05/2008 3:29:04 AM PST by tobyhill (No Honeymoon For Obama. Free Obama Bashing 24/7)
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To: lewisglad
To outsiders in the lower 48 states, we have difficulty understanding the result. How can a convicted felon be reelected to office in a year which favors Democrats?

Perhaps you should ask Ted Kennedy's constituents.

9 posted on 11/05/2008 3:30:09 AM PST by Witch-king of Angmar
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To: goldstategop

The question is how much will Reid and Pelosi push “power sharing” for Obama.


10 posted on 11/05/2008 3:33:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: tobyhill

What is the Senate procedure on that if Bush pardons Stevens? Does that mean resignation is removed from the table...


11 posted on 11/05/2008 3:36:48 AM PST by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
I'm not sure?
12 posted on 11/05/2008 3:40:06 AM PST by tobyhill (No Honeymoon For Obama. Free Obama Bashing 24/7)
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To: lewisglad
The Great North Version of Jack Murtha.
13 posted on 11/05/2008 3:42:40 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: tobyhill
Bush can give him a pardon on the way out just to shove it in the Rat's faces.

LOL!! That is hilarious. But I'm with Governor Palin. CUT the corruption, not reinforce it.

14 posted on 11/05/2008 3:45:11 AM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: tobyhill

I suppose the Rats could still censure Stevens, but not force him to resign under Senate rules with a full pardon.


15 posted on 11/05/2008 3:45:17 AM PST by lewisglad
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

Most ironic is that this one event might prevent them from getting their magical 60 seats. Esp. since it looks like we may lose both MN and OR.


16 posted on 11/05/2008 3:45:30 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Not sure of the protocols, but wouldn’t be great if she appointed herself as Senator. Sweet Revenge.


17 posted on 11/05/2008 3:47:15 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: lewisglad

Do you think Sarah will appoint me to be the new senator from Alaska? I’m not a resident, but hell, we don’t have rules any more and I’m willing to serve.


18 posted on 11/05/2008 3:55:15 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

Really. Isn’t this disgusting? If there was one Republican who in a sane world should lose, it would be Stevens.


19 posted on 11/05/2008 3:56:05 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS
Isn’t this disgusting?

Not at all. The vote I cast, along with a lot of other Republicans in Alaska, was for the sake of the party. It was not an endorsement of Stevens, who will get tossed from the senate. Then the governor, who is a Republican, can appoint a Republican replacment. If Stevens hadn't been reelected, we'd be stuck with a Democrat.

20 posted on 11/05/2008 4:06:52 AM PST by Titanites
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To: Titanites

As I say, since there are no more rules, I’d like Sarah to nominate me to replace Stevens. Since senators live in Washington anyway, who cares if I’m from Ohio?


21 posted on 11/05/2008 4:09:07 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: lewisglad
I assume Sean Parnell would be a candidate to replace Ted, should he leave office. Maybe Loren Leman, though I'm not sure how old he is.

Somehow I don't think Ben Stevens would cut it.

22 posted on 11/05/2008 4:11:50 AM PST by JohnnyZ (This gun for hire)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
prediction..he’ll die in office when his car hits a moose when he is back in AK and Palin will take over!

I don't think he'll serve one day of his new term in the Senate. There are will be enough Republicans including Mitch McConnel who will go along with DemocRATS to refuse to seat him in the Senate. After Murkowski appointed his own daughter to fill the vacancy caused by his election as Governor of Alaska, the laws have been changed to not allow the governor to fill vacancies in US Senate seats but have a special election.

23 posted on 11/05/2008 4:13:41 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: LS
As I say, since there are no more rule

It was stupid the first time you said it.

I’d like Sarah to nominate me to replace Stevens. Since senators live in Washington anyway, who cares if I’m from Ohio?

Alaskans care.

24 posted on 11/05/2008 4:13:49 AM PST by Titanites
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To: lewisglad

A question for anyone who knows:

If Stevens is re-elected and then is expelled or forced to resign from the Senate, does Sarah get to appoint his successor? Or is there a special election?


25 posted on 11/05/2008 4:14:23 AM PST by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: lewisglad

Alaska gets it! Mark and his hollyweird buddies lost!


26 posted on 11/05/2008 4:15:38 AM PST by Issaquahking (This is the kind of person our forefathers wanted to run the country!!! Go Sarah Go!!!)
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To: Malesherbes

Sarah could appoint herself as sitting US Senator, although I think she would probably like to run for the office and win.


27 posted on 11/05/2008 4:18:13 AM PST by lewisglad
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To: catfish1957; Malesherbes
Not sure of the protocols, but wouldn’t be great if she appointed herself as Senator. Sweet Revenge.

Bad idea. A governor in Minnesota (Lowell Anderson) did that back in the 70's: he resigned, and his Lt. Governor succeeded him -- then appointed him to the Senate.

In the next election, the resulting outrage swept the opposite party into the Governor office and both Senate seats.

28 posted on 11/05/2008 4:25:16 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: Issaquahking

Todd Palin for interim senator and Sarah for the full six year term.


29 posted on 11/05/2008 4:40:15 AM PST by lewisglad
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To: justlurking

We voted for Stevens to save the seat for the Governor to appoint another conservative Republican. We wished that he would have resigned, but he didn’t. We just got tired of doing the right thing and then being punished for it.


30 posted on 11/05/2008 4:40:42 AM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: lewisglad

If Stevens is pardoned it is like having a crime expunged from your record .


31 posted on 11/05/2008 4:42:07 AM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: lewisglad

That might be the explanation, but if I were an Alaska voter, my explanation would be a little more calculated. Stevens is not going to make it thru 6 years. Palin will appoint his successor, and whoever it is will be a conservative Republican—possibly Palin herself.


32 posted on 11/05/2008 4:46:27 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Renegade

But could that stop the power mad Rats from censuring him under Senate procedure?


33 posted on 11/05/2008 4:48:59 AM PST by lewisglad
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To: goldstategop

He needs to resign and Sarah can take is seat in a special election, this will keep her in the spotlight for the next four years.


34 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:33 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: lewisglad

The best part of the whole election night was seeing Stevens win.


35 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:52 AM PST by linn37 (Phlebotomists need love too.)
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To: lewisglad

God bless Sarah Palin!


36 posted on 11/05/2008 5:06:37 AM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: tobyhill

“Bush can give him a pardon on the way out just to shove it in the Rat’s faces.”

Right, and give the Republicans a big black eye. We don’t need to further degrade our reputation.


37 posted on 11/05/2008 5:14:29 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: Paleo Conservative

Ah, Murkowski, the “gift” that keeps on giving.

I would guess that if Alaska would elect Ted Stevens, they would have no problem voting in a new Republican Senator in a special election.

And for filibuster purposes, it doesn’t matter if you have a senator, it just matters that they other side doesn’t. You don’t need any votes, the other side needs 60.


38 posted on 11/05/2008 5:36:51 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Brilliant

“That might be the explanation, but if I were an Alaska voter, my explanation would be a little more calculated. Stevens is not going to make it thru 6 years. Palin will appoint his successor, and whoever it is will be a conservative Republican—possibly Palin herself.”

John Fund said on Fox and Friends today he thinks they did just that. He says he believes they voted “for the seat not the man”. Interesting.


39 posted on 11/05/2008 5:44:08 AM PST by redk
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To: lewisglad

Alaskans didn’t vote for Ted Stevens - they voted for a Republican. They want a Republican representing them in the Senate. They’ll get one whether or not Stevens is expelled or resigns.


40 posted on 11/05/2008 5:44:26 AM PST by randita (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Titanites

“The vote I cast, along with a lot of other Republicans in Alaska, was for the sake of the party.”

Thank God you have an electorate that could clearly think this through. I can’t imagine Alaskan’s were too happy with the treatment of their great Governor either.


41 posted on 11/05/2008 5:51:47 AM PST by Minn. 4 Bush
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To: lewisglad

You can censure anyone . Many people have been censured . Big deal .They can’t vote him out because of the pardon .( no crime committed ) If he does resign in the end, Palin will appoint another conservative to the post .Be neat if she appointed herself which is a possibiltiy. Gives her experience as a governor and MORE experience in the Senate than Bambi for a run in 2012 .


42 posted on 11/05/2008 6:20:53 AM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: lewisglad

How long before Stevens’s corruption conviction forces him to resign or get ousted (each house is the ultimate judge of its own membership) and Sarach gets to appoint a clean new Senator?

Would she take it herself?


43 posted on 11/05/2008 6:22:19 AM PST by TBP
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To: catfish1957
Not sure of the protocols, but wouldn’t be great if she appointed herself as Senator. Sweet Revenge.

Technically, governors don't "appoint themselves" to the Senate. Technically, what happens is that the governor resignes, then the Lt. Gov. succeeds and appoints his predecessor to the Senate. (Usually, they prearrange that.)

44 posted on 11/05/2008 6:31:17 AM PST by TBP
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To: Renegade

most govs who appoint themselves to the Senate lose the seat in the next election - voters don’t like it

Sarah should appoint Parnell or another GOP ally.


45 posted on 11/05/2008 6:32:37 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: lewisglad
What is the Senate procedure on that if Bush pardons Stevens? Does that mean resignation is removed from the table...

Not necessarily -- a Senator can resign at any time for any reason -- but the possibilit of expelling him probably is, and that is what would cause him to resign.

46 posted on 11/05/2008 6:33:02 AM PST by TBP
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To: justlurking
A governor in Minnesota (Lowell Anderson) did that back in the 70's: he resigned, and his Lt. Governor succeeded him -- then appointed him to the Senate.

His name was Wendell Anderson, but you're right. Governor Anderson resigned, his Lt. Governor, a man named Rudy Perpich, appointed him to the Senate (to fill the vacancy created by Walter Mondale's ascension to the Vice Presidency), and around the same time Humphrey died. In the following election, the Republicans won the governorship and BOTH Senate seats.

47 posted on 11/05/2008 6:37:38 AM PST by TBP
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To: Renegade
Gives her experience as a governor and MORE experience in the Senate than Bambi for a run in 2012.

Do you realize that a new Senator is going to have to be appointed to fill out BO's FIRST term?

48 posted on 11/05/2008 6:40:04 AM PST by TBP
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To: lewisglad
Stevens was elected, not because of Sarah's blousetails, because basically he has given years and years of service to Alaska and brought plenty of pork to the state.

His crime, not reporting work done without charge on his home, was relatively small when it came to the specific amount of dollars involved.

His election, thankfully, helps to keep a filibuster margin by Senate Republicans. He will step aside for another Republican when the times comes.

Alaskans know all this.

49 posted on 11/05/2008 6:58:32 AM PST by mtntop3
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Offhand opinion... Palin appoints Lt Gov Sean Parnell


50 posted on 11/05/2008 7:02:24 AM PST by BigEdLB (Let's get serious - there is only one choice - McCain/Palin 2008)
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