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It's time to face it America

Posted on 11/05/2008 4:40:17 AM PST by Scoville300k

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1 posted on 11/05/2008 4:40:17 AM PST by Scoville300k
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To: Scoville300k

Self immolator.


2 posted on 11/05/2008 4:41:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: Scoville300k

I concur. Yesterday, America turned into Argentina.


3 posted on 11/05/2008 4:41:43 AM PST by mike-zed
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To: Scoville300k

Can someone IM me when all the vanities stop? I want to read NEWS, not every single FReepers personal opinions!!!


4 posted on 11/05/2008 4:42:11 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: Scoville300k

You are very correct. It is pure selfishness without reason. It is rooted now in moral and religious relativism.


5 posted on 11/05/2008 4:42:11 AM PST by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: Scoville300k

I wonder how many people voted for Obama thinking he was President Palmer.


6 posted on 11/05/2008 4:44:18 AM PST by Perdogg (Obama will not be my President)
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To: Scoville300k

Do I go to the 0be campaign headquarters to get my free gas now or do I have to wait until Jan 20?


7 posted on 11/05/2008 4:44:38 AM PST by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (RINOs? PUMA))
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To: Scoville300k

You joined to say this?
I disagree. If he was white with the same policies and associations, he wouldn’t have won.
Period.


8 posted on 11/05/2008 4:44:48 AM PST by mabelkitty (Obama is the ILLEGAL PRESIDENT until I see proof of his American birth)
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To: Scoville300k

When we redefined free speech as unlimited access to pornography and gave up the right to free political speech it was all over. Don’t expect to have your political views aired in public anymore. Talk radio and the internet are the last repositories of free political speech and those will be at the top of the Dems agenda.


9 posted on 11/05/2008 4:45:12 AM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: mike-zed

The electorial map was colored, almost to the state, the same as the clinton Dole map.


10 posted on 11/05/2008 4:45:20 AM PST by Billg64 (LOL ROFL Senator Mccain for what????)
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To: Scoville300k

You’re right and there is now no place safe on the planet for those who want liberty above all else.


11 posted on 11/05/2008 4:45:38 AM PST by pctech
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To: Scoville300k
I am so sad for our children. They will NEVER know the life we have led up until now. They will never get to experience the pride of being completely self-sufficient and not dependent on the government for ANYTHING. Amongst the other joys of my life has been the satisfaction of working for everything I have, never taking a dime from my fellow citizens for personal expedience. If Obama is successful in what he has proposed, those days are gone forever.

You are right, people just don't want to have to think and do for themselves any more.

12 posted on 11/05/2008 4:46:02 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Scoville300k
A reckless society, determined to self-destruct....
13 posted on 11/05/2008 4:46:16 AM PST by thinking
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To: Scoville300k

We let this happen by giving in to political correctionism.
The only path for our salvation now is to force issues to be called by their correct and proper names.

Do not call it the Fairness Doctrine; it is Censorship.
Do not call it Progressive Government; it is Socialism.
Do not call it the National Security Force; it is Obama’s Koolaid Gestapo.

I pray that we can survive the next four years without suffering too much damage to our way of life.

Oh, and one more thing.
Start practicing the phrase, “Obama’s Fault !!!”


14 posted on 11/05/2008 4:46:28 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
"Can someone IM me when all the vanities stop? I want to read NEWS, not every single FReepers personal opinions!!!"

Please stop posting your opinion. I'm tired of all the complaints about duplicate posts and vanities. How 'bout one more opus?

15 posted on 11/05/2008 4:46:38 AM PST by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (RINOs? PUMA))
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To: Scoville300k

They might eventually figure out that if you have a job, that “free” stuff means that you pay for your “free” stuff and others free stuff too. That the government doesn’t produce anything and that in order for government to “give” people stuff it comes from other people who earned it. It never ever really comes from “government”. Government is only the broker in the deal - by force of law - and they get their cut along the way.

Stupid people deserve the consequences.

The rest of us don’t.


16 posted on 11/05/2008 4:46:59 AM PST by DB
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To: Scoville300k

I know a woman at work who voted for Obama (she was the only one in our work force.) She likes the idea of all of Obama’s free stuff, tax cuts, etc.

What she doesn’t realize is she’s shooting herself in the foot, so to speak. Our employer provides “free” health benefits, we pay no part of the premiums. In talks with the front office I’ve learned that if nationalized healthcare goes through, the company will most likely drop the “good, expensive” healthcare plan we now have and go wtih the cheaper nationalized version. Why wouldn’t they? When that happens and this lady gets inferior healthcare, it will still be free, but it will not be anywhere equal to what we get now for the $1,000 per month our employer pays (per employee) to insure us.

People are too short-sighted. If the tax cuts go through, this woman or other employees might not even have a job because employment might be cut (the business files as an s-corp and income is above $250,000.)


17 posted on 11/05/2008 4:47:16 AM PST by Dawn531
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To: Scoville300k

Ask and you shall recieve. Good.

In 2 to 4 years when this man turns this country into a socialist welfare state, down-grades the military and cuts defense weapons programs and energy costs skyrocket, the idiot who pulled the lever for this guy better not complain because they got the government they wanted.

They’ll probably claim that they didn’t know. Of course. You know NOTHING about this man if your spoon-fed the bias BS the MSM gives you on a daily basis. If these people would have gotten off their a$$ and did a little research into this man’s past they might have a different view of him.


18 posted on 11/05/2008 4:47:38 AM PST by faithinchaos ("You can put a flag pin on a marxist but he's still a marxist."---Jim Quinn)
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To: Scoville300k

You are as crazy as a coon tick.

The majority does not want socialism, but conservatives need to do a much better job of (1) explaining why socialism is undesirable, and (2) providing candidates for public office that the public can and should admire.


19 posted on 11/05/2008 4:47:46 AM PST by olrtex
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To: Scoville300k

Yesterday, before voting, I took my first born to the DMV to get her learner’s permit. I pointed out to her to notice how grimy the place was; how surly and unhelpful the workers were; how poor the service was. We arrived early and were the fourth in line. An hour and a half later, we were done. It took them roughly 20 minutes to deal with one taxpayer and they were only set up to deal with one at a time.

I told my daughter to really let that sink in. For all those people who think the government should provide us with things, let them spend a morning at the DMV. This is what going to the doctor is going to be like.

I weep for this country and my children’s future.


20 posted on 11/05/2008 4:47:55 AM PST by Stand W (Fetchez La Vache!)
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To: pctech
Hearing these impassioned statements from fellow Freepers gives me solace and a little courage in a time of great trial. It is good to know that one is not alone. Remember the words of Hirohito:

I am keenly aware of the feelings of my subjects, but in accordance to the dictates of fate, I am willing to endure the unendurable, tolerate the intolerable, for peace to last thousands of generations.

21 posted on 11/05/2008 4:48:01 AM PST by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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To: BuffaloJack
I think there is a high probability that the “fairness doctrine” won't make it past the supreme court. There's that pesky first amendment thing...
22 posted on 11/05/2008 4:48:21 AM PST by DB
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To: Scoville300k

U.S.S.Amerika


23 posted on 11/05/2008 4:49:00 AM PST by abseaman (The Tree of Freedom, MUST, occasional be nourished with the blood of its patriots)
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To: Scoville300k

We’ve been at Socialism for some time. We’re now headed down the Marxist Fascist rabbit hole.


24 posted on 11/05/2008 4:49:16 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Our nation is uncomfortably close to having B.O. We need to use a Republican roll on by 11/04.)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Don’t be such a baby! This is the only place for many to sound off and connect with like-minded folks.

Afterall, didn’t you just give us your “personal opinion”? If ever there was a time for someone to express their own personal feelings that time is now.


25 posted on 11/05/2008 4:49:16 AM PST by panaxanax (Writing in John Bolton/Sarah Palin in 2008!)
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To: Paladin2

Go now, beat the lines.


26 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:40 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America as founded is finished.)
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To: Scoville300k

We are losing the war of ideas, big time.

The Democrat party is overrun with blatant Marxists, disaffected tax and spend liberals are crossing over and dominating the Republican party, we call them neo-cons.

With the fairness doctrine in place it will be even more of problem to overcome.

We need to go back and look at what was done in the aftermath of the Ford loss to Carter, that brought Reagan to power.

As I recall, Reagan was not all that popular in the beginning.

Sarah Palin is the subject of much PDS (Palin Derangement Syndrome) already as the non-conservative elements in the Republican party try to eliminate her as a threat to “their guy”.

They are going to try to blmae her for this loss and not McCain’s Bob Dole-like “elder statesman” routine.


27 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:45 AM PST by Khepri (It's the audacity, stupid!)
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To: Scoville300k

Thou shall not covet thy neighbors’ goods(wealth). I have been trying to get Christian leaders and activists to take up this cry. With no success. It’s easy to preach against abortion and homosexuality knowing that you won’t offend your constituents. It is a whole other matter to take a stand against government-mediated coveting. Nearly everyone is getting some kind of handout.
Other than Ron Paul is there one other Republican who does not pander to the covetous. Voters aren’t stupid (well actually they are, but). They went with the best offer. Ypu realy don’t need to know more than that.


28 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:56 AM PST by all the best
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To: Dawn531

When you have a job and you vote for “free” healthcare all you are doing is voting to pay for your own and somebody else’s too. Government doesn’t pay for anything. Only taxpayers.

Stupid, stupid people.


29 posted on 11/05/2008 4:51:30 AM PST by DB
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To: Scoville300k

European and Canadian style socialism has a lot of appeal to folks. It is not until they have experienced it for a decade or so do the citizens come around to the realization that nothing is free.

For the conservatives we need to devote time to studying Europe and Canadian politics. We know that Canada is becoming more conservative, but they still have the socialism baggage weighing down their economy.

If we learn more about how to fight European and Canadian Socialism, then we can put up roadblocks in the next two years to stop passage of those things that are cast in concrete in Europe and Canada.


30 posted on 11/05/2008 4:52:16 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Scoville300k
You may be right, but I'm not quite there yet. Let's be honest, who have we really had articulating our conservative message the last 20 years. Bush 1, Bob Dole, Bush 2, Bush 2 and now McCain...see a pattern?

W was not a conservative. He's a good man and we owe him a beck of a lot for keeping us safe here at home, but he was a disaster on the home front. He vetoed nothing when we had the house and the senate. Let's not even get into the inability to articulate a message, let's just say we didn't have too strong a “bully pulpit” these last 20 years.

We had a bunch of losers in the House and the Senate when we could have transformed the political landscape but instead spent like drunken sailors. Lesson 1...never try to outspend a liberal to curry favor with the electorate.

In addition, our side fell in love with being called Congressman so and so or Senator so and so. Getting all the right invites to the DC social scene, etc, etc. Many of them were just hacks and deserved to lose in 06 and 08.

We'll see what the big O will do, but the most immediate concern should be rebuilding the conservative movement...at all costs. Let the great purging begin and yes there should be litmus tests. You're either a conservative or your not. Lee Atwater opened this door of the “big tent”, it's time to close it.

31 posted on 11/05/2008 4:52:44 AM PST by mek1959
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To: panaxanax

Hugs!


32 posted on 11/05/2008 4:52:49 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Scoville300k
Unforunately, I agree!!! I am retired but keep in touch with a colleague who is still working at the ole' company. He currently makes $200,000 and the company has a health care plan that he must pay 20% into. However, he sincerely believes that health care is a right and should be free. I asked him if he thought that he would still be making $200,000 if his health care were free and he said that he thought that he should. In his opinion, the company (or the rich) should pay for his health care. I simply think that his position on the issue could be summarize in the phrase, a willing suspension of common sense.

Additionally, I have coffee with two other retirees here in NYS once per week. They simply believe that the people on Wll Street make too much money (salary and bonuses). When I tell them that those salaries and bonuses are taxed at a very high rate (in both NYS and NYC) and that the state can't exist without that tax revenue they simply shrug and say that such income is unfair. Once again the phrase, a willing suspension of common sense applies.

33 posted on 11/05/2008 4:52:50 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Can someone IM me when all the vanities stop? I want to read NEWS, not every single FReepers personal opinions!!!

Well, the news today is all about the millions of Generation O screaming "O-bah-ma! O-bah-ma! O-bah-ma!"

34 posted on 11/05/2008 4:52:57 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: DB

Yeah, that’s what many said about “Campaign Finance Reform”.


35 posted on 11/05/2008 4:53:26 AM PST by Sister_T (Sarah Palin can lead a horse to water AND make him drink.)
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To: DB
I think there is a high probability that the “fairness doctrine” won't make it past the supreme court. There's that pesky first amendment thing...

Not once He appoints new justices. It is only a matter of time

36 posted on 11/05/2008 4:53:52 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Agreed! Looking for news...


37 posted on 11/05/2008 4:54:14 AM PST by EBH (The Day the Music Died)
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To: cripplecreek
Blacks demand reparations. I agree. They're the only immigrant group to get free passage to America, as well as free room and board the first 250 years America was settled. That there was dehumanizing and degrading slavery is beside the point. Do you really think any AFrican-Americans want to go back to Africa?

It's time for them to pay up for letting them live in the land of the free.

38 posted on 11/05/2008 4:54:43 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Bombing Billy Ayers-the Timothy McVeigh of his generation)
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To: all the best
Go give the churches property to the homeless. The homeless need it more than the church does. That's the position of Obama supporters.

You neighbor has more than you? Go help your self - it isn't fair they have more so taking it is economic justice - just ask them.

39 posted on 11/05/2008 4:55:19 AM PST by DB
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To: panaxanax

Yes, I stated my opinion, but I stated it within a thread, I didn’t start another vanity.


40 posted on 11/05/2008 4:55:22 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: Scoville300k
Your opinion is not news.

Call your Mom next time, she I am sure is interested in your opinion.

41 posted on 11/05/2008 4:55:43 AM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: TheCipher

What conservative is going to be replaced anytime soon?


42 posted on 11/05/2008 4:56:05 AM PST by DB
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To: Scoville300k
Scoville300k - Since Nov 5, 2008

Vanity Guy

43 posted on 11/05/2008 4:56:25 AM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Scoville300k; Old Sarge; MeekOneGOP; darkwing104
To most Americans, "free" health care, "free" housing, "free" food, are wonderful things.

Nothing is "free". Someone has to pay, and that is the working people of America.

44 posted on 11/05/2008 4:56:55 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The USA is now under Marxist siege.)
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To: Sister_T

Different court.


45 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:12 AM PST by DB
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To: Scoville300k

Obama ran to the right and Mccain did not have the money to stop it his non stop 6 to 1 media blitz !

The election was bought and paid for with 650 million of foreign money that Bush’s gutted DOJ ignored and
Dem run depts let Acorn go unchecked .
McCain did not have a clue how to run a nation wide campaign and he hired Davis the same Dole idiot.


46 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:29 AM PST by ncalburt
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To: RetiredArmy
"Go now, beat the lines."

Maybe I can hire someone to stand in line for me? I don't have time today. My dog and I have to go to the range to celebrate yesterday's events. ;-)

47 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:43 AM PST by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (RINOs? PUMA))
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

CAWT - Drudgereport.com cnn.com newsmax.com breitbart.com

Just a few sites for your news reading pleasure.

No one’s FORCING you to read anything. Yet.


48 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:58 AM PST by Scoville300k
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To: DB

Really?

How’d that Supreme Court thing work out with “McCain/Feingold?” The First Amendment didn’t seem much of a barrier there did it?


49 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:58 AM PST by Scoville300k
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To: Paladin2

I dunno, I’m still trying to figure out when I can stop paying for my own mortgage, it’s gonna be great!


50 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:59 AM PST by FunkyZero
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