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60 Million votes for the loony left.
I Made This Up. | 05NOV08 | mapmaker77

Posted on 11/05/2008 5:52:49 AM PST by mapmaker77

I think that the best place to lay the blame for last nights debacle is the U.S Dept of Education. 40 years worth of liberal non-education has paid off for the loony left. I'll bet that out of those 60 million voters that chose the left yesterday, not one in 10 thousand could accurately define socialism. Well, we are about to have to learn about it the hard way.


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Here are just three examples of what happens now. 1. Let's implement the fairness doctrine. In one fell swoop, an entire American industry will be wiped out. Lost jobs and lost tax revenue. 2. Let's destroy the coal mining industry. Not much thought of how we will replace 50% of our current electrical generating capacity. More lost jobs and lost tax revenue. 3. Let's cut the defense budget by a quarter, in the middle of not 1, but 2 wars. That will probably put another million people out of work. The loony left with it's brilliant ideas and the law of unintended consequences. Uneducated children grow into uneducated adults who have the vote. And all too often exercize it.
1 posted on 11/05/2008 5:52:49 AM PST by mapmaker77
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To: mapmaker77

FReeper teachers have slagged me for saying this before, but I’ll say itagain: Public schools are not for education. They’re for indoctrination.


2 posted on 11/05/2008 5:56:47 AM PST by clintonh8r ("My friends, we've got them just where we want them." McCain. Or Custer.)
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To: mapmaker77

Nice Post and thread!


3 posted on 11/05/2008 5:56:54 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: mapmaker77

I swore an oath, I’ll fight. When libtards are within the sights, I’ll let whatever happens happen. Only for honest folk will I be there for ya.


4 posted on 11/05/2008 5:58:17 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: mapmaker77

Essentially. And, of course, those people still expect the bountiful consumer and employment choices made possible by the world’s largest and relatively free economy.

Unfortunately, as you have pointed out, they are unable to connect the dots thanks to the formal education they have received, as well as the horribly slanted news the mainstream media reports and the politically slanted products of the entertainment industry.


5 posted on 11/05/2008 5:58:39 AM PST by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: mapmaker77

Right on. I have concluded that to be a Democrat is to either be woefully ignorant or to be on the take.

I work for an oil company and the bullseye will be on us here in Texas, one of those states who refused to go along with the Dem’s propoganda machine.

Must go to buy a couple of more cases of shells prior to them taxing them away.....


6 posted on 11/05/2008 5:59:48 AM PST by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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It amazes me that, even in deep conservative states like Alabama, the liberal mindset has managed to take over the schools.

Is it just that conservatives are lazy? Just don’t fight? Don’t get involved?

I guess the problem with favoring smaller govt. is that we don’t want to actually get involved with it to fight it.


7 posted on 11/05/2008 6:00:33 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: mapmaker77

It’s far simpler than that.

8 years of Republicans diddling away their hard earned right to govern.

Bush - aside from terrorism, capitulated and signed every drunken sailor spending bill and every stupid law (CFR) that crossed his desk.

House/Senate - Those republicans compromised their way into utter FAILURE.

Us- 16 years of voting for the “most conservative” instead of insisting at every turn, REAL conservatives.

Loss well earned.


8 posted on 11/05/2008 6:03:29 AM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: mapmaker77
I've been waiting for the day that our public schools (indoctrination centers) turned out enough brain-dead liberal zombies to destroy freedom and capitalism and to end this freedom thing we had going for us over the past 200 years.

Best part of it, we all just sat there like total zombies ourselves and let the local school districts confiscate our hard earned money to feed upon themselves. In turn, they have turned out two generations of good little communists, the second run more liberal and marxist than the other.

There will be no turning back. We have morphed overnight from the USA to the USSA.......United Socialist States of America!

9 posted on 11/05/2008 6:04:09 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: mapmaker77

True, but look on the bright side. Not everyone bought into it. In fact, for all the talk of huge turnout, *fewer* people voted in this election than in 2004.

The GOP and conservatives, in general, didn’t bother showing up last night. You can probably blame McCain and his past antics for that. He has alienated a good number of conservatives and they turned their back on him last night.

So what’s the bright side? I think those conservative voters are still out there. The party just needs to field a better candidate.


10 posted on 11/05/2008 6:04:26 AM PST by VOR78
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To: Crimson Elephant

We have to join the PTA first just like Sarah.
I am sending my kid to private schools she deserves it. if it means no new cars and no HDTV then so be it.


11 posted on 11/05/2008 6:04:34 AM PST by omega4179 (Resistance begins 11/5/08 wheres the birth certificate?)
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To: mapmaker77

Well, if the left’s past is any indication of what’s to come there will a rather long period of normalization following the election.

They know you are pissed and would be wary of anything they’re doing right now.

Give it six months to a year before you see anything substantial.

They’ll wait for the masses to relax a little.

OR:

They will come riding fast and hard out of the gate and assume control in the way that you mentioned.

I don’t think it will the second as you and I would end up in the streets armed for bear/socialists.

So, look for a long pause while they sharpen their knives in the backroom and gear-up for their freedom culling.


12 posted on 11/05/2008 6:04:35 AM PST by Boucheau (A wise & frugal gov't...shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. T. Jefferson)
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To: mapmaker77

“The loony left with it’s brilliant ideas and the law of unintended consequences. Uneducated children grow into uneducated adults who have the vote. And all too often exercize it.”

They don’t care. Hell, they revel in their ignorance, and wear it on their sleeves proudly. All they care about are the freebies they are convinced they’ll be getting. Funny thing, though: Without the tax revenues they’ll get nothing but platitudes. They voted for The Marxist, now they can live with it.


13 posted on 11/05/2008 6:05:39 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mapmaker77

It’s NOT the Dept. of Education, and it’s not the past forty years.

It’s government school, and it’s more than a century.

The most powerful, destructive, fraudulent agency working to destroy the United States is the government school

Government school is also THE MOST SUCCESSFUL government program, because it is accomplishing precisely what it was designed to do: create under-educated, dependent, fearful, obedient drones.


14 posted on 11/05/2008 6:05:41 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: mapmaker77

60 million America haters came out in force yesterday. RIP America 1776 to 2008.


15 posted on 11/05/2008 6:06:17 AM PST by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: bestintxas

64 million voted in the D primaries, but only 62.5 million in the general. Unheard of in history.

Is this PUMAs staying home?

Or did 1.5 million Rs cross over in OpChaos?


16 posted on 11/05/2008 6:06:36 AM PST by txhurl (obama elected president?)
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To: VOR78
The GOP and conservatives, in general, didn’t bother showing up last night. You can probably blame McCain and his past antics for that. He has alienated a good number of conservatives and they turned their back on him last night.

I'm not so sure about that. I think that's a myth.
17 posted on 11/05/2008 6:08:02 AM PST by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: clintonh8r

“Public schools are not for education. They’re for indoctrination.”

You said it and you’re right.

Here in NY, we’ve already been told, (ink isn’t even dry on the ballots), that we’re all getting a property tax hike, mandated services for Cathollic schools will no longer be funded, and our latest class of police academy recruits is cancelled and city jobs are going to be cut.

Thanks Democrats.


18 posted on 11/05/2008 6:08:27 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: LottieDah
60 million America haters came out in force yesterday. RIP America 1776 to 2008.

Basically.
19 posted on 11/05/2008 6:08:59 AM PST by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: Crimson Elephant

“Is it just that conservatives are lazy? Just don’t fight? Don’t get involved?”

They’re too busy working and providing for their families. But that’s about to change, since jobs will be at a premium, and the only ones hired will be the ones who swore allegiance to Hussein the Marxist.


20 posted on 11/05/2008 6:09:01 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mapmaker77

Even if you count his 18 million vote and Hillary’s 18 million votes from the primaries, I’m still not getting how you come up with another 30 million. Were there that many new voters?


21 posted on 11/05/2008 6:11:47 AM PST by jersey117
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To: DH

“We have morphed overnight from the USA to the USSA.......United Socialist States of America!”

That’s a fact. I think it was the American communist Norman Thomas who said America will not be conquered by socialism in a war, but it will vote itself into socialism, and ultimately, communism. Prophetic words, those.


22 posted on 11/05/2008 6:11:58 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mapmaker77

Mapmaker-you are so right-THe brainwashing of teachers and students and the poorly written and biased history in the “Social Studies” books is and has been appalling and “the chickens have come home to roost”. We are reaping what has been sown in the systems of indoctrination. And I now understand how Nazi Germany happened.

Cordio


23 posted on 11/05/2008 6:12:34 AM PST by Cordio
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To: mapmaker77

When you go look at the North Carolina results, you will see that “Straight Party” Democrat votes accounted for most of the votes. This translates to
the dumb masses following blindly and marking one spot on their ballots. This election was bought, if it wasn’t actually stolen.

(Hint: pronounce “dumb masses” quickly, together)


24 posted on 11/05/2008 6:12:50 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: mapmaker77

“the blame for last nights debacle is the U.S Dept of Education”

Balderdash, it is because of lack of character (morality), duty and honor are now foreign concepts, our behavior and choices have led to our decline.


25 posted on 11/05/2008 6:13:21 AM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: mapmaker77

26 posted on 11/05/2008 6:14:22 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: American_Centurion

Well said - you are correct on every point.

I cannot understand why “Republicans” think voters will vote for a fake, welfare state supporting, special interest pandering, half-ass Rino/Democrat when they can have the real thing by voting democrat.

We already have one democrat party.
If the Republican party doesn’t stand for anything other than being “Democrat Lite” they may as well disband.

Republicans who want to govern like democrats should just change parties - they will be more comfortable and the Republican party can return to the principles of small government, reduced spending, respecting and enforcing the law and promoting traditional American values.


27 posted on 11/05/2008 6:15:11 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself)
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To: VOR78

“So what’s the bright side? I think those conservative voters are still out there. The party just needs to field a better candidat.”

You forget all the illegals that are here. Demographics are against us, and the libtards know that. Mark my words, one of the first major acts of Hussein the Marxist will be to legalize the 20,000,000 illegals that are here, make them citizens, and register them as Democrats. And those “new citizens” will vote overwhelmingly for the party of their “savior.”


28 posted on 11/05/2008 6:15:12 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Harry Wurzbach

The Dems outpaced Republican turnout 39%-33%, and the white vote, which is usually around 80% of the vote and votes 55%+ Republican, hit what was likely an all time low of 75% last night.

Looking at those numbers, one would assume that the Dems just swamped our side last night, but given the rather underwhelming turnout, that assumption appears wrong. Taking that into account, I think it strongly suggests that some conservatives just didn’t bother.


29 posted on 11/05/2008 6:18:28 AM PST by VOR78
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To: mapmaker77
It's a black day for America. We have let our soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen down by voting into office someone who has advocated defeat in Iraq, and wanted to cut their spending. This man is nothing but a SOCIALIST, and now we will all pay the price for our folly. As for my fellow Americans in those coal states of PA and OH, you will deserve what you get. I would say good riddance, but they have taken us down the sewer with them.
30 posted on 11/05/2008 6:18:38 AM PST by patriot330
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To: omega4179

“I am sending my kid to private schools she deserves it. if it means no new cars and no HDTV then so be it.”

Smart move. But, you realize that a Hussein the Marxist administration and its eager camp followers in Congress will penalize and punish you for doing that, don’t you? Your taxes are going to be raised to such an extent that you won’t be able to afford to send your kid to private school; and, believe me, they will make homeschooling illegal, as they are already talking about doing that.

I’m afraid that nothing short of a revolution can save the United States now.


31 posted on 11/05/2008 6:20:09 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mapmaker77
Uneducated children grow into uneducated adults who have the vote.

Seeing all those kids screaming Obama made me sick. So ignorant of history and socialism and all the rest of the isms but so proud they voted for the man who will teach them all about the isms. Unfortunately, we will suffer with these snotty little, pseudo intellectual, ingrates.

32 posted on 11/05/2008 6:21:21 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: mapmaker77

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you on all fronts. There are so many people my age (my sister included who voted for 0) that think socialism and communism are good things that are “new” and haven’t been tried before. I wish I was kidding but this is the BS so many college professors shove down our throats (somehow, I stood up against it and survived). I also agree as far as their three goals:
1. crush dissent, 2. destroy “unfavorable” industry, 3. don’t press on our enemies but readjust things to invade Pakistan

smart /sarc


33 posted on 11/05/2008 6:24:05 AM PST by wrhssaxensemble (Piyush "Bobby" Jindal in 2012 after Obama makes an even bigger mess of everything)
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To: VOR78

The country is no longer that white.


34 posted on 11/05/2008 6:24:20 AM PST by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: Cordio

“And I now understand how Nazi Germany happened.”

Yup. And, believe me: Hussein the Marxist is a fascist, through and through.


35 posted on 11/05/2008 6:24:30 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mapmaker77; All

And they constantly call you stupid (believe me, just look at my facebook comments sometime) or even threaten to kill you (2 or 3 people have sent me death threats while I was in college) if you disagree


36 posted on 11/05/2008 6:31:41 AM PST by wrhssaxensemble (Piyush "Bobby" Jindal in 2012 after Obama makes an even bigger mess of everything)
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To: Cordio
And I now understand how Nazi Germany happened.

Nazi's blamed the Jews for the financial crises and having all the money. Obamaniacs blame middle and upper class whites for having all the money and financial control.

37 posted on 11/05/2008 6:36:30 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: mapmaker77

“I think that the best place to lay the blame for last nights debacle is the U.S Dept of Education. 40 years worth of liberal non-education has paid off for the loony left. I’ll bet that out of those 60 million voters that chose the left yesterday, not one in 10 thousand could accurately define socialism. Well, we are about to have to learn about it the hard way.”

Absolutely, positively, 1000% right on the money. The investment they made in the dumbing down of America that started in the 60’s will be paying off for them electorally for generations to come. In fact, “our” America may never recover. Despite FRs plaintive cries in the wilderness, America slept - and they took over.

American kids have been taught to despise education, and “feelings” became paramount. Where feelings are paramount, science and math is junk.


38 posted on 11/05/2008 6:38:02 AM PST by StatenIsland (The '08 Election: It's about the survival of our country, not making a point...)
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To: VOR78

I agree...it looks as though millions of Conservatives and/or Republican stayed at home.

In 2004 GWB received 62 million
John Kerry received 59 million
Total votes of 121 million

According to the numbers Drudge has on his website...
Obama has 62.5 million votes
McCain has 55.5 million votes
Total votes of 118 million

McCain received 6.5 million less votes than GWB
If McCain had those 6.5 million votes the popular vote would have been basically tied.

To me it looks as though we had 2 problems...
1. McCain was not the best candidate
2. Our GOTV was not what it was 4 years ago...part of that may have been because of having McCain as the candidate.


39 posted on 11/05/2008 6:44:33 AM PST by kygolfman
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To: Harry Wurzbach
"The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" a book by Charlotte Iserbyt is on line. She details the course of American "Education" and how it has created the system we have now and will watch grow by leaps and bounds following yesterday's election. This book is huge in size and in detail as it Chronicles "change".

Most of the "old school" teachers are now retired or have moved into private sectors. Those who are classroom teachers now are products of the public school system and of the liberal institutions that "trained" them. We are now looking at at least two generations that have been trained in Government schools. Why wouldn't they defend the only system they know and are permitted to use in their classrooms? History is now taught as Social Studies. Math and Reading are taught using methods that create ADD and cognitive dissonance in a vast number of our young children,primarily boys. Etc. etc....

It has been my privilege to be associated with Charlotte and many others who have been sounding the warning for many years. Many who heard the warning constitute the vast number of Homeschoolers we have today. I would hope that number will continue to grow.

Note that the first word in the title she chose is "DELIBERATE". The slow march to a socialist society has been carefully and "DELIBERATELY'orchestrated and will go into quick step in the very near future.

40 posted on 11/05/2008 6:49:08 AM PST by codder too
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To: kygolfman

That’s how I’m seeing it.

Another way to look at it? Despite having everything possible in his favor, including a weak GOP candidate, overwhelmingly positive news coverage, an unpopular sitting president AND a huge market downturn a month prior to the election, Obama posted a grand total of 3 million more votes than Kerry did in 2004, or about 60,000 per state on average and we KNOW that every loony lefty in the country turned out to vote for him, too.

If the GOP can get its act together, we’ll be fine for 2010 and/or 2012, at least as far as election viability is concerned. The country itself? Well, I expect the Dems to make a total mess of that.


41 posted on 11/05/2008 7:01:41 AM PST by VOR78
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To: Arthur McGowan
"Government school is also THE MOST SUCCESSFUL government program, because it is accomplishing precisely what it was designed to do: create under-educated, dependent, fearful, obedient drones."

Absolutely correct. The best use of time and energy to counter this maybe implementing vouchers on a much more widespread scale, but it had better be done quick before democrats completely reshape the state and lower courts.

42 posted on 11/05/2008 7:01:41 AM PST by Funee Kat
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To: StatenIsland

HOME SCHOOL the only way to guarantee your child will not be filled with propaganda. Catholic schools have now become as bad as secular given the infiltration of left wingers into the education system.


43 posted on 11/05/2008 7:03:18 AM PST by nigelstan
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To: King Moonracer
Latest stat is 1 in 4 are dropping out of school. Conservatives need to jump all over this. Public schools cannot defend it, any more than they could defend the welfare system.

Also, this racist Marxist would have never won except for A. bias media
B. ACORN in 21 states

Until these change, we are just another 3rd world county. IMO

44 posted on 11/05/2008 7:05:14 AM PST by progunsantichoice
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To: clintonh8r

Giving you a big AMEN!


45 posted on 11/05/2008 7:12:07 AM PST by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: Peter Horry

Not balderdash! Fact! If your children, if you have any, have escaped the brain sucking factory of public education count yourself very, very lucky. I spent a lot of time with two retired teachers yesterday, conservatives too, and they readily acknowledge what has been happening in the public schools. Unfortunately they had no solution as they think the union has such a strong hold it will never be broken. Both agreed that they would never send their children to a public school in todays “academic” environment.


46 posted on 11/05/2008 7:19:48 AM PST by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: progunsantichoice

A 25% dropout rate!!! Where did you see that?

The wealthy, liberal white-guilt driven media and ACORN are indeed major issues on our necks. As are the ill-prepared children that are brainwashed by schools and sent to further brainwashing at colleges when they are old enough to vote.


47 posted on 11/05/2008 7:22:34 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: omega4179

Say no to the PTA!!!!!!!!!!! The PTA is a national organization of people who want the government to do everything for everyone. But most parents don’t want to see that. They go along to get along. Research the national PTA. It’s just as bad as a teachers’ union. Shoot, it’s an arm of teachers’ unions.


48 posted on 11/05/2008 7:38:21 AM PST by petitfour
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To: pepperdog

Our problem is character/morality not schools/education nor the “dumbing down of America” ... so there, put that in your pipe and smoke it (remember that from grade school). Define the illness and you are more likely to find a cure.


49 posted on 11/05/2008 7:39:56 AM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: mapmaker77
Everyone has been saying if America doesn't change it will come under the judgment of God.

As I have said before we are not coming under judgment but have been under judgment for the last fifty years at least.

We shake our fist in the face of God and tell Him to get out of our business and take His Son's name with Him.

We tell Him we will decide what is right and what is wrong then proceed to justify and legalize what He calls sin and abomination two of which are child sacrifice and sodomy.

Then we thumb our noses at His strict plain warning not to touch that one little piece of ground in the entire universe that He kept for Himself and says is very Holy to Him.

We stick our noses right in the middle of it and pressure the people there to do our will and defy His.

We meddle with the land and the city of Jerusalem that He continually has His eye on and an intense personal feeling for.

Yes we pressure them to take the land that He says He loves and is Holy to Him chop it up in pieces and give it to their and His sworn enemies who defile it in the worst possible ways.

Yes we are under God's judgment and the heat is being gradually turned up hoping we will come to our senses and return to our first love.

God' does not have to do anything to us but to take His hand off and let us have our own way.

This is God's creation and He is in charge and His will,will be done.

In what I believe is the too distant future He is going to make His presence known in the Mideast in a way that the World and Israel will know It was Him that solves the Middle East problem that man has found to be too difficult.

50 posted on 11/05/2008 8:14:39 AM PST by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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