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Exit Polls: Latino voters tip balance
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/exit-polls-where-latino-voters-tipped-the-balance/ ^

Posted on 11/05/2008 7:13:44 AM PST by Def Conservative

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To: sasafras

But we can reach out to latino voters with still recognizing we have borders for a reason.

Shunning all GOPers who reach out to hispanic is not the way.


61 posted on 11/05/2008 8:19:06 AM PST by Def Conservative (Don't let the MSM turn Obama into the next JFK...start destroying his legacy NOW!)
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To: Def Conservative

“Shunning all GOPers who reach out to hispanic is not the way.”

We need to shame them - showing how they have voted for someone who will support killing Latino babies and destroy Latino families. This is how the left has done it they have divided and conquered - we need to steal this playbook we need to shame them - show how a vote for Obama is a vote for a liberal white elitist banker in Manhattan who hates Latinos and sees them as nothing but disposable workers- which is not far from the truth.


62 posted on 11/05/2008 8:28:02 AM PST by sasafras (Dont be fooled - the DIVERSITY MANTRA - is the left's tool to incite hate, racism and division)
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To: SoFloFreeper

We already saw how that reaching across the aisle to his “”friends”” worked out. I swear, I felt like reaching into the TV and slapping the crap out of McCain for calling them “my friends” repeatedly. There is no way, no how that the DemocRats have EVER been McCain’s friends.


63 posted on 11/05/2008 8:31:38 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: sasafras

Oh I most def agree with that. Demonize the white liberals, point out how welfare is harming them, give the facts


64 posted on 11/05/2008 8:31:49 AM PST by Def Conservative (Don't let the MSM turn Obama into the next JFK...start destroying his legacy NOW!)
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To: HelloooClareece
“Way to lose an entire voting block of hard working Christians. Republicans came off as bigots and played right into Dem hands. McCain and others tried to tell us this would happen, here’s the proof.

I understand its a security issue but Savage and others made us look like racists. Unforgivable.”

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

Maybe, just maybe others on here will think about that. We had this group coming to our side and yes, many of them were first generation Hispanics that were born in Mexico and other Latin American countries that I dare say came here illegally a long time ago. But they became productive citizens and believed (and still do) in alot of our principles. But when you make commercials and the focus of some peoples hate and they are people that look like you and that you can identify with, what happen last night happens and the Conservative movement DESERVES the shellacking it got.

When we divest ourselves of the Savages, Tancredos, Bucahans and other bigiots,we'll get them back.

Flame away, but the longer people on this site and our side live in denial, it might be 2022 before we get the White House and Congress back because those Bigots will finally be gone from the face of the earth.

65 posted on 11/05/2008 8:37:09 AM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Prokopton
Have you ever wondered why Irish Catholics, who should be voting conservative Republican now, still vote Democrat like their fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers and great-great-grandfathers did? ..... Polybius

That must be the reason blacks are almost all Democrats because Lincoln, the Republican, set them free and the Democrats controlled the racist south that hung them from trees. Is that it? ....... Prokopton

Actually, up until the late 1940's, many blacks DID vote Republican. Martin Luther King was a Republican.

Once the old "Dixiecrats" became Republicans, blacks flocked to the Democrat Party.


66 posted on 11/05/2008 9:08:20 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Def Conservative
Does this mean we can finally drive a stake through the heart of the "Latinos are our natural allies" myth?

If we grant voting rights to illegals, they will vote Democrat by a margin of at least two-to-one, if not more. This is not a good deal for Conservatives!

67 posted on 11/05/2008 9:21:42 AM PST by gridlock (18 Million Democrats voted for Hillary in the primaries. Are they all racists?)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Take this crap line of reasoning elsewhere.”

We lost the LEGAL Latino vote dillweed. Do you know the difference between legal and illegal or are the lines blurred at this point? Uh huh, I thought so. You posted to me as if I were referring to illegals because you’re blind to the difference.

BTW My spouse and I donate good money to FR for the opportunity to speak freely and have done it for longer than you so check yourself.


68 posted on 11/05/2008 11:09:02 AM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: Rottweilerson

Again, you assumed due to bias that I was referring to Illegals. I was not. McCain warned that we would lose the LEGAL Latino vote. A block that is a natural fit in our party as they are very conservative, hard working, family loving people.

We did lose that vote.


69 posted on 11/05/2008 11:11:44 AM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: Big_Monkey

Yes indeed.

Somewhere along the line FReepers forgot that there is a difference between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. That is what will kill our party.

The legal immigrants voted against us because of how we felt about their family members. Reagan knew better, some here do not.


70 posted on 11/05/2008 11:16:01 AM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: qwertypie

Hispanics from Mexico are Christian, hard-working, and family loving. They are a natural fit for our party.

Reagan knew best. That’s my motto. If we are to compete with India and China we have to keep our population growth up. Statistically AA’s and Hispanics are reproducing way faster than whites. Since Hispanics work so hard and pass that ethic on to their kids we should be embracing them, not shunning them. They are the future of this country like it or not.


71 posted on 11/05/2008 11:26:59 AM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: The South Texan

Bless you!

The Legal Latinos think we’re bigots. They have a reason to think that everytime they hear Savage or someone like him.

I always thought he was a plant. He used to run with radicals and suddenly became a bigoted “conservative” talk show host?? I don’t think so. I think he’s leading sheep to slaughter and laughing with his lib buddies all the way to the bank.

We will have to decide whether we, as FReepers, are Reagan Conservatives or Savage/Buchanan Conservatives. I know where I stand.


72 posted on 11/05/2008 11:35:56 AM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: Def Conservative
Latino voters voted for Barack Obama over John McCain by a more than a 2-1 margin nationally: 66 percent to 31 percent.

It's very clear that, democrats know how to play the political game a lot better than republicans.

We take the high road and pretend that, whatever the constituency, they'll vote for whomever is best for America rather than whoever is best for that constituency.

Democrats play to a constituency, like blacks or hispanics or women or Jews, by promising them things; whatever it takes.

So, why can't we play the same game? Why not go after the Hispanics or the blacks or women? We may have to take some hits on our principles, but, how else to win? Democrats certainly have no scruples and they win. So, we may also have to do "whatever it takes".
73 posted on 11/05/2008 11:39:05 AM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

You are right on!

If we don’t get some more minorities in the GOP, we’ll say goodbye to any chance of halting the libtards.

It amazes me that people are saying drive a stake through “latinos are our natural allies” argument bt still insist on propping up token blacks like that has a an effect.

The GOP is the stupid party if we don’t reach out to hispanics, the black vote is gone and the youth vote is NOT there. The white vote is shrtinking people. Wake up!

P.S.-Conservatism in the political arena is only worth something if you have representatives to bring it through. We can’t do that as a minority party—be that the GOP or some dumb ass third party yall try to start.


74 posted on 11/05/2008 1:28:35 PM PST by Def Conservative (Certified black enough to say Obama is NOT my president!)
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To: The South Texan

I look forward to working with you and other like minded conservatives on making sure we don’t let the Dems add another race to their plantation.


75 posted on 11/05/2008 1:30:42 PM PST by Def Conservative (Certified black enough to say Obama is NOT my president!)
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To: HelloooClareece

“Way to lose an entire voting block of hard working Christians. Republicans came off as bigots and played right into Dem hands. McCain and others tried to tell us this would happen, here’s the proof.”

Proof? Only to you, McCAin and the aliens. Get over this nonsense. Uncontrolled immigration from 3rd world socialist loving countries just elected the president of the United States. And your attitude helped.


76 posted on 11/05/2008 1:38:02 PM PST by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: HelloooClareece

“This is not McCain’s fault, this is talk radio’s.”

Oh, BS. Now you’re just imagining stuff. First, Savage is hardly representative of ‘republicans’. Now, show me one instance of the BIGOTRY by talk radio against ‘hispanics’. They are the ones with their countries flags marching in my streets DEMANDING everything they don’t deserve. But THAT doesn’t bother you? Either give me facts or think before you help the left destroy the ONLY voice conservatives have.

Maybe that’s your plan.


77 posted on 11/05/2008 1:43:49 PM PST by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: qwertypie

” But, sheesh, blanket hostility will kill us even worse.”

PC will kill us faster, we’re grasping our last breath now because of it. We’ve surrendered to any foreign demand especially by Mexico. It’s crazy. And dangerous.


78 posted on 11/05/2008 1:47:38 PM PST by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Def Conservative

“Shunning all GOPers who reach out to hispanic is not the way.”

Define ‘reach out’? Amnesty again? What?


79 posted on 11/05/2008 1:49:42 PM PST by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: AuntB

There’s gotta be a response to immigration that brings both sides in. While I was calling John McCain, Juan McCain during the primary, reality has now set in. The Democrats know how to play the race card, we don’t and we will lose another race to the Dems if we don’t start realizing we can’t win on white votes alone.


80 posted on 11/05/2008 1:56:41 PM PST by Def Conservative (IT'S THE HISPANICS, STUPID!)
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