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1 posted on 11/05/2008 7:13:45 AM PST by Def Conservative
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To: Def Conservative

Well, just damn. Now we gotta get that border opened so they’ll love us.


42 posted on 11/05/2008 7:40:32 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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Sad reality: because of how this election sews up the ethno-monolith Black and Hispanic Dem vote for probably a generation, in upcoming national elections, non-Dems will have to run very divisive, borderline race-baiting campaigns to make up the difference with the white vote.


43 posted on 11/05/2008 7:42:29 AM PST by bailmeout ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" - G Orwell)
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Hahahahaha - this has got to be the best news yet - ol pandering filthy McLame open border POS got screwed by the illiegals. YES this is great.

It proves we can not sacrifice our values and expect the racists on the left to like us. Years of indoctrination in the schools and govt are going to take years to change.

So McLame hows that pandering racist group of LaRaza working out for ya?

Oh yeah McLame hows that McCain-Feingold bill to screw over conservatives working out for ya? Seemms like Soros and ACORN handed you your as* when you worked to screw over the conservatives with this reaching over the isle bullshit.


44 posted on 11/05/2008 7:42:49 AM PST by sasafras (Dont be fooled - the DIVERSITY MANTRA - is the left's tool to incite hate, racism and division)
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Sometimes I still believe the GOP wanted to lose this election.

They want the RATS to give the amnesty, they want them to screw the economy, they want national healthcare, which they know will be awful, all provided from DC to you by the Democrats, instead of themselves. I think of all the Congress candidates that bailed and retired from the GOP. Why now?

Once everyone is wallowing in worse than Carterlike misery, they can then run on change and hope.


53 posted on 11/05/2008 8:03:30 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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Latinos see themselves as a “minority” even though they are Caucasian. They are part of the “victim” class who Obama is the leader of. Even though they often compete, Latinos joined with the black “minority” to gain power over whitey. There is clear class and racial warfare in the U.S. but only one side realizes it's in a war. Blacks, or Latinos who think Obama should be President because of the color of his skin or his “minority” status are every bit as much the enemy to me as groups like the KKK who don't want Obama to be president for the same reasons.
54 posted on 11/05/2008 8:04:36 AM PST by Prokopton
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The real reason we lost this election can be laid firmly at the feet of George Bush and McCain. McCain pissed off most of the conservative base, so much so that even a good candidate like Palin could not swing the tide.

Bush on the other hand pissed off everyone. He may have done a few good things, but the socialist crap he passed, including McCain-Finegold, was against every Conservative principle that Republicans are supposed to stand for.

Bush will go down in history as the destroyer of the Republican party. What we have to do now is start reforming the party and kicking out people that follow the Bush-McCain mindset and replacing them with good solid conservatives.

58 posted on 11/05/2008 8:09:49 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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Does this mean we can finally drive a stake through the heart of the "Latinos are our natural allies" myth?

If we grant voting rights to illegals, they will vote Democrat by a margin of at least two-to-one, if not more. This is not a good deal for Conservatives!

67 posted on 11/05/2008 9:21:42 AM PST by gridlock (18 Million Democrats voted for Hillary in the primaries. Are they all racists?)
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Latino voters voted for Barack Obama over John McCain by a more than a 2-1 margin nationally: 66 percent to 31 percent.

It's very clear that, democrats know how to play the political game a lot better than republicans.

We take the high road and pretend that, whatever the constituency, they'll vote for whomever is best for America rather than whoever is best for that constituency.

Democrats play to a constituency, like blacks or hispanics or women or Jews, by promising them things; whatever it takes.

So, why can't we play the same game? Why not go after the Hispanics or the blacks or women? We may have to take some hits on our principles, but, how else to win? Democrats certainly have no scruples and they win. So, we may also have to do "whatever it takes".
73 posted on 11/05/2008 11:39:05 AM PST by adorno
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i do not know how we can think that we can win another national election. the numbers of minorities, legal and illegal, are growing by leaps and bounds every year.

these people do not vote conservative. hell, they didn't even vote for mccain who isn't a conservative!

what do you think they'll do to palin in 4 years!?!

it will take an unmitigated disaster to wake people up in this country.

87 posted on 11/05/2008 2:47:54 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact i DID only read the excerpt.)
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What tipped the vote was the “change” issue. Because we had such a terrible president and spineless legislators, The Democrats owned the issue.


88 posted on 11/05/2008 2:50:06 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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