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After his breathtaking victory against Thomas Dewey in the 1948 election, President Truman dove headfirst into his second term.
After his victory against John Kerry in the 2004 election, President Bush relaxed at Crawford for nearly a month.

Unfortunately, he would find this term quite different from the first, which was filled, for the most part, with great successes butincreasing unpopularity among the American people.
Similar results. Bush had successes with two Supreme Court judges and the surge.

Just over a year after being inaugurated for his second term, Truman found himself facing perhaps the most important event of his entire Presidency - the invasion of South Korea by the Communists to the North.
Bush found himself facing a faltering effort in Iraq and waning support from the American people.

American forces, not entirely ready for such a conflict (Truman had issued a roll-back of the armed forces after World War II), were hastily sent at first simply to defend South Korea. When this was realized, Truman fired Defense Secretary Louis Johnson and replaced him with General George Marshall. Under Marshall's leadership, the strategy in Korea changed into one in which North Korea itself would be invaded.
Bush stubbornly hung on to his Secretary of Defense despite the setbacks until the 2006 "thumpin" occurred. Then he fired Donald Rumsfeld and replaced him with Dr. Robert Gates. Under Gate's leadership the strategy as forwarded by Gen. David Petraeus changed into one in which Iraqi insurgency quieted.

Despite the public disapproval Truman faced over this threatening to take over the steel industry to prevent wildcat strikes, Truman's fortitude stayed the course.
Bush did nothing during the runup of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lending crisis. He rushed in for a bailout with the crisis hit the banking industry.

Embattled Final Days By the final year of Truman's Presidency, he found himself facing poll numbers from the American people lower than any President in history (a record which still stands as of mid-2008), his approval rating dropping as low as 22% (several points lower, even, than President Nixon on the verge of his resignation).
Same here with Bush!

Leaving the White House, Truman's poll numbers had increased slightly, though many still considered him a failed President. As the years have passed by, however, his ranking has grown steadily, as historians have been able to look at his record more and more objectively, viewing his great many successes and weighing them against those decisions which were seen as failures.
To be determined?

1 posted on 11/05/2008 10:56:08 AM PST by meandog
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To: meandog

Truman was ultimately a liberal Democrat. He was hated for his foreign policy. Ultimately those who write history (ie liberals) began to paint him in a more positive light.

Bush is, and will forever remain, the evil conservative Republican to these “historians.”


2 posted on 11/05/2008 11:02:29 AM PST by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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To: meandog

Does anybody else wonder why we still support the UN?

It tries to undermine the Constitution of the USA and
would love to cripple our Constitutional Republic.
In over 60 years No major politician has ever tried to
get the USA out of the UN.

16 out of 17 of the AMERICANS that were involved in
creating the UN were later identified, in sworn
testimony, as secret communist agents.

The first Secretary General was the AMERICAN Alger
Hiss.
Alger Hiss served time in prison pursuant to his
involvement in a Communist spy ring.

Many of the other AMERICANS that were involved in
creating the U . N. fled the country, to avoid
prosecution.

The ONE AMERICAN, that was involved in creating the UN
and was NOT later identified, in sworn testimony, as a
secret communist agent, was Dean Acheson.
Dean Acheson’s law firm was the legal representative of
the Soviet Union, in US courts.

If the AMERICANS that were involved in creating the UN
were Communists, what do you think we got from the rest
of the world?


3 posted on 11/05/2008 11:03:04 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama, Change America will die for.)
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To: meandog

“Leaving the White House, Truman’s poll numbers had increased slightly, though many still considered him a failed President. As the years have passed by, however, his ranking has grown steadily, as historians have been able to look at his record more and more objectively, viewing his great many successes and weighing them against those decisions which were seen as failures.”

i think bushs approval ratings are going to go up among liberals considering he is the reason they control huge majorities in the house and senate with the most liberal president ever. how can you not applaud after he gives you that gift?

i think bushs ratings are going to plummet through the floor among conservatives considering he pissed away everything we worked so hard to build.


4 posted on 11/05/2008 11:04:24 AM PST by philsfan24
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To: meandog

Bush’s legacy is Iraq. If it is a thriving pro-western nation with a regular tourist trade 5 to 10 years from now, that’s his legacy, just like Truman with S. Korea... if it falls into chaos under a premature 0bama ordered withdrawal, he gets the LBJ Vietnam legacy.


6 posted on 11/05/2008 11:10:36 AM PST by Chet 99
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To: meandog
Bush's second term was a disaster. From Harriet Miers to Dubai Ports to Amnesty for Illegals to losing the congress and senate, to his failure to push for financial reform in spite of warning of grave consequences, to his support of that horrid bailout to his refusal to curb spending to his stubbornly allowing our troops in Iraq to suffer through the insurgency before being forced to change the policy there, and on and on.

He did some good things in his first term though his spending was out of control. Had he served only his first term he'd be respected right now. He ruined his reputation with the second. History may change that verdict but for now the jury is in.

8 posted on 11/05/2008 11:55:45 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: meandog

Truman’s First Term

Dropped atomic bombs on Japan ending WWII
Saved Iran and Greece from Soviet takeovers
Airlifted supplies into Berlin saving the city from the Soviets.
Rebuilt Western Europe as a bulwark against communism with the Marshall Plan.
Won reelection

Truman’s Second Term

Abandoned China to Mao Tse-Tung
Invited the invasion of S Korea by excluding it from America’s sphere of protection
Attempted to socializ... uh take over and run the steel industry
Fired MacArthur for trying to win in Korea
Settled for stalemate in Korea during which more American soldiers died for nothing than in the two commie invasions
Left office least popular president in history


9 posted on 11/05/2008 12:01:22 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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