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CATHOLIC VOTE ON MARRIAGE AND FAMILY: MUCH TO CHEER ABOUT (won DOMA in CA - AZ - FL)
Catholic League ^ | 110508 | Bill Donohue

Posted on 11/05/2008 1:34:43 PM PST by Fred

Catholic League president Bill Donohue commented today on the role Catholics played in securing marriage and family rights in the election:

“Were it not for Catholics, the institutions of marriage and the family would have taken a hit in places like Arizona, Florida and California. Indeed, in Florida and California, their vote proved to be decisive.

“Arizonians rejected gay marriage by a vote of 56% to 49%, though the margin among Catholics was less—51% to 49%. In Florida, the Catholic vote proved to be controlling: overall, the ban on gay marriage won by 62% to 38%, but among Catholics it was 66% to 34%. Californians narrowly defeated gay marriage by a margin of 52% to 48%, but Catholics rejected it by an impressive 60% to 40% differential. A vote in California to support parental notification lost by 52% to 48%, but it won among Catholics by a hefty 58% to 42%.

“On both issues, Catholics and Protestants who are regular church-goers clearly supported a ban on homosexual marriage and affirmed their support for parental consent. Unmarrieds and those who don’t go to church overwhelmingly voted for the right of two men to marry; they also voted to deny mothers and fathers of their right to be notified in advance if their child is considering an abortion.

“Those who support traditional values, then, tend to be religious and married while those who sport a preference for moral relativism tend to be secular and single. The implications are clear: tax laws, and other public policy initiatives, which are both family-friendly and church-friendly, are critically important.

“Because those who reject traditional values and religion voted heavily for Barack Obama, it’s a sure bet the culture war will only get hotter. We expect to be quite busy.”


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2008; catholics; catholicvote; defendmarriage; doma; gaymarriage; obamaisawhiner
All constitutional amendments. We have been shown the way to victory thru these movements.

This is GLOAT POST ONLY, OBUMMER TYPE WHINING NOT ALLOWED

1 posted on 11/05/2008 1:34:44 PM PST by Fred
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To: Fred

Catholics are only telling one half of the story here.

Yes, the Catholics did help get marriage amendments passed.

BUT, Catholics also voted heavily for Obama and Obama’s future Supreme Court can override those state amendments in a single decision.


2 posted on 11/05/2008 1:38:08 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Yes, if they don’t repent they will all be damned to hell.


3 posted on 11/05/2008 1:40:32 PM PST by SaintDismas (Starting to regret the handle I chose for this forum)
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To: Fred

Well...now THAT is the 1/2 full version of the story....
HALF of the Catholics voted to support the baby murdering Obama....and the same HALF voted AGAINST the gay marriage
amendments....

If you get a 50% on a test....you flunk.


4 posted on 11/05/2008 1:41:19 PM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
The Catholic Bishops started to find their voices in the past month ... It wasn't nearly enough.

They need to keep pounding on the pro-life issues constantly ... not wait until a month before the next election.

If it drives a few apostates out of the Church, and into open apostacy, so be it. The Church would be smaller, but speak with a clearer voice.

5 posted on 11/05/2008 1:44:27 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Fred

Some people have been saying that America is “lost” because of Hispanic immigration, and I don’t buy that for a second. We need to actively court Hispanic Catholics. This is a huge opportunity, and we’ve been foolishly blowing it off.

Mexico’s president Felipe Calderon is by our standards conservative. He’s been a reformer and pushed for free markets.

No excuses. Let’s get to work.


6 posted on 11/05/2008 1:49:01 PM PST by ksm1
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Gloat only.

You are missing the point, this is the trend and the direction that we need to go to retake the congress. Can you make comments in that direction.

As to your comment, the voter in CA and FL show a very strange pattern on how they voted irregardless of their church affiliation. They overwhelmingly supported Obummer, yet, they also supported the DOMA initiatives in large numbers.

My conclusion for this is that the vote for Obama is a revenge vote against Bush (extremely poor reason). And the voter, in general, is center right when it comes to social issues.

These voting patterns give me great hope for the future. We can unite and retake congress.


7 posted on 11/05/2008 1:50:25 PM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and OBAMA IS A whiny MARXIST)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

There are “catholics” and Catholics. If every American who had ever been baptized in any Protestant denomination was called a Protestant voter by the media, we would see similar voting patterns among that group, since it would cover a whole lot of “protestants” who never bothered to darken the door of church.

There is no Catholic vote. There is the churchgoing vote and the non-churchgoing vote, and voting patterns of Catholics who attend mass regularly are virtually indistinguishable from those of Protestants who attend services regularly.


8 posted on 11/05/2008 1:56:12 PM PST by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The Supreme Court and abortion was one of the major factors of my vote. I cannot imagine anyone calling themselves Catholic or Christian and voting for bho.


9 posted on 11/05/2008 2:39:52 PM PST by mouse1
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
BUT, Catholics also voted heavily for Obama and Obama’s future Supreme Court can override those state amendments in a single decision.

I guess we won't talk about all the Protestants who voted for Obama and all the evangelicals who just stayed home.

10 posted on 11/05/2008 3:25:39 PM PST by Hacksaw
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“Arizonians rejected gay marriage by a vote of 56% to 49%...

With my addition that makes 105%. Sounds like you've got some Chicago politicians doing the counting.

11 posted on 11/05/2008 4:45:52 PM PST by curmudgeonII (Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit.)
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To: curmudgeonII

lol


12 posted on 11/05/2008 8:09:54 PM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and OBAMA IS A whiny MARXIST)
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To: LadyNavyVet; Presbyterian Reporter
There is no Catholic vote. There is the churchgoing vote and the non-churchgoing vote, and voting patterns of Catholics who attend mass regularly are virtually indistinguishable from those of Protestants who attend services regularly.

Sorry to disagree with you, but that's not how the numbers are shaping up. There was a 10%+ difference in McCain support, between Evangelicals & Protestants (no matter how often they attended church) versus your weekly-mass-attending Catholics:

75% McCain, 25% Obama - [White Born Again ***] Evangelicals*
65% McCain, xx% Obama - White Protestants**
62% McCain, 35% Obama - State of Utah
54% McCain, 44% Obama - Weekly church-goers
51% McCain, 49% Obama - White Catholics*
xx% McCain, 53% Obama - Monthly church-goers
45% McCain, 54% Obama - Catholics
xx% McCain, 59% Obama - Semi-annual church-goers
38% McCain, 61% Obama - Occasional churchgoers
xx% McCain, 68% Obama - Don't attend church 21% McCain, 78% Obama - American Jews

Presbyterian Reporter, if you maintain a ping list, can you include me on it?

13 posted on 11/06/2008 8:14:31 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Alex Murphy

You are comparing apples to oranges. If every voter who had ever been baptized in a Protestant church was considered a “Protestant voter” by pollsters, the voting patterns of so-called protestants would line up very much with those of so-called catholics.

That comparison is never made, however, because it doesn’t comport with the “What’s WRONG with those people?!” meme.


14 posted on 11/06/2008 8:43:17 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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