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Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?
vanity ^ | 11-5-08 | Various

Posted on 11/05/2008 4:34:48 PM PST by TitansAFC

Today, Red State ran an article on the origination of nasty lies from within the McCain/Palin camp. They report, Romney staffers now working on the McPalin campaign have been spreading the stories of Palin’s “ineptitude” to the press. Red State and other reporters accuse Romney staffers, including Kevin Madden (former Romney press-man) of pushing reporters into “Troopergate” stories and other possible negative Palin story angles. Palin provides a threat to Romney for a presidential run, but now is not the time for in-party fighting.

American Girl has been very critical of long-time Romney supporter Kathleen Parker (see here and here), a “Republican,” from the National Review for her consistent ridicule of Palin instead of criticising the Democrat ticket. Parker has proven to be a putrid, vile opportunist in this election. Parker has only proven to me that she would stab my dog if it helped her personal interests.

Mitt Romney has an obligation to his party and beliefs to publicly hog-tie Madden, Parker, and his surrogates (I have a list). If Romney fails to reign them in and rehires them for another WH bid, he can count on American Girl fighting hard against his nomination.

This is no threat, but a promise. I will take my money, my volunteers, my time, this blog, and more - and back another candidate. Guaranteed.

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When I was in St. Paul for the Republican Convention, more than a dozen people told me acolytes of Mitt Romney were feeding all the stories to the media portraying Palin in a negative light.

In fact, I heard that one of the biggest pushers of anti-Palin stories, including encouraging reporters to pursue the "Trooper-gate" story was Romney spokesman Kevin Madden.

I did not blog on it at the time because I perceived it to be people trying to finish off Romney. It likewise seemed clear to me that if this was going on, it was people loyal to Romney who were still hoping for his come back and not Romney himself.

These days it is hard to miss Kathleen Parker's savage attacks on Sarah Palin. She, along with several others listed here attacking Sarah Palin were also some of the first pundits in bed with the Romney campaign in 2007/8.

Again, it is hard for me to place the finger on Romney. It seems to me that these are people who are still convinced he's the better nominee and don't want Palin to be in any position to challenge him in 2012.

At this moment, however, it is absolutely clear -- there is an effort, organized or not, by supporters of Mitt Romney to harm the reputation of Governor Sarah Palin.

The American Spectator documented it yesterday.

Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House, have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election. "Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012," says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin. "The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He's in charge on November 5th."

Though I initially dismissed the Kevin Madden rumors, Amanda Carpenter has Kevin in his own words going after Sarah Palin.

And it is not just Madden. It may be hard for you to believe, but there are Romney supporters now working on John McCain's campaign who are, in fact, indisputably out to damage Sarah Palin's reputation. I am not just convinced of it. I know it to be fact. That there are "conservative pundits" echoing the same talking points makes me deeply suspicious.

I agree with Matt Lewis. I doubt Mitt Romney is responsible or encouraging it. In fact, I suspect he'd be extremely disappointed to find this out. Nonetheless, whether organic or organized, it is happening and it deeply worries me that these people now undermining Sarah Palin view Romney as the logical choice to lead the RNC or be the front runner in 2012. You don't get to sabotage your own side and then have your guy be the front runner.

We must remember this. Contrary to the quote in the American Spectator, if November 5th ushers in President-elect Obama, I stand with Sarah.


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To: TitansAFC

“The onstand in llgy serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He’s in charge on November 5th.”

Yeah Right. If he’s the new face of the Republicans then I’m tearing up my GOP card and go stand in the Obama line and see what crumbs the Dems will drop me.


101 posted on 11/05/2008 5:20:14 PM PST by RedMonqey (Embracing my "Inner Redneck")
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To: penelopesire

Sarah, God bless her, may (note may) have actually contributed to the loss in this election. Don’t go selling out McCain and tossing him under the bus. C’mon people.
She was grossly unprepared for this candidacy and like it or not, a lot of people (people you want to drive out of the party) were not impressed with her knowledge of the issues and her preparedness. So all this talk about driving out true, long-standing republicans will actually shoot the party in the foot. Remember, conservatives can never win an election when they inject religion into the equation too much.
BTW - Did you donate $2500 to the Republican Party this year? Remember, money talks and God is also on the side of all men/women (including this Lincoln/Nixon/Reagan/Bush Sr mantra Republican).


102 posted on 11/05/2008 5:21:43 PM PST by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: TitansAFC

Names please. I believe this is a hit on Romney with no substance unless names are given. Heresay doesn’t cut it. The Romney supporters I know of are all strong Palin supporters as well. I’ve never heard anyting negative from them regarding Palin. I have heard complaints that the McCain handlers mishandled the campaign. The same handlers that mishandled the McCain campaign and hindered Palin’s effectiveness are now turning on Romney. These handlers are the enemies within — and their names are?


103 posted on 11/05/2008 5:22:57 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: retrogo
"This is second hand or third hand information. Kind of like someone saying to you 'you should have heard what they were saying about you' because they want to start an argument. The person who wrote this should have kept it to themselves, they are being played in my opinion."

Signed up eight days ago...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...meow

104 posted on 11/05/2008 5:25:04 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Schadenfreude!)
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To: Bobkk47
How can anyone put blame on Sarah, she worked her heart out to help this miserable loser.
105 posted on 11/05/2008 5:25:04 PM PST by boomop1
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To: khnyny
Romney didn’t make it was because of the MSM. They took him out early.

Romney took himself out. The MSM had nothing to do with his blatantly political flip-flopping on critical issues. His morph from Northeast moderate to staunch conservative standard-bearer was about as convincing as a Lon Chaney Jr. time lapse into the Wolf Man.

106 posted on 11/05/2008 5:25:56 PM PST by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: Reagan69
You seriously doubt it? He was in charge, right? It was his campaign, wasn't it?

Ever see Twelve O' Clock High"? There's a scene where Gregory Peck sums it all up. "Its always the group commander."


107 posted on 11/05/2008 5:27:02 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Bobkk47
Secondly, Romney would have won this election.

Yet cuz nothing inspires the country like an elitist, rich, white liberal from Massachusetts/s

BARF!!
108 posted on 11/05/2008 5:27:44 PM PST by RedMonqey (Embracing my "Inner Redneck")
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To: StAnDeliver

Agreed.


109 posted on 11/05/2008 5:28:10 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: TitansAFC

Romney has zero chance to ever get elected.

They need to face it, it will never happen.


110 posted on 11/05/2008 5:28:16 PM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: FrankR

As long as Parker is out there spouting the moderate line, it will be easy to tie Romney to it.

Moderates do not have to be invited back in


111 posted on 11/05/2008 5:29:17 PM PST by reefdiver (How do you keep the Conservative a Conservative, in Washington DC ?)
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To: TitansAFC; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

112 posted on 11/05/2008 5:30:55 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: PhiKapMom

Romney isn’t running for anyting and won’t. Since you say you “know” then you know how badly McCain’s campaign was run. If there was criticism from the Romney people, it was criticism of the ones running McCain’s campaign that were doing such a horrendous job. The Romney people wanted McCain and Palin to win the election and were frustrated with people who seemed to be working against that.


113 posted on 11/05/2008 5:31:50 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: Bobkk47
Secondly, Romney would have won this election.

Can't beat McCain in the primaries, but somehow he could have won the election...yeah that makes lots of sense.

114 posted on 11/05/2008 5:32:47 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: americanophile

Yor’re the only one bring religion into this discussion. Romney’s a loser. Period.


115 posted on 11/05/2008 5:33:14 PM PST by RedMonqey (Embracing my "Inner Redneck")
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To: TitansAFC

REDSTATE is full of RINO lovers-the blueblood’s home, perhaps?

I went there a few times and was amazed how they belittled real conservatives.


116 posted on 11/05/2008 5:34:38 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: TitansAFC

Screw Romney! If he did nothing and knew nothing let him say so. He is a Massachusetts liberal. I trust him like I trust Obama to not raise my taxes. We don’t need him. Palin is the real deal.


117 posted on 11/05/2008 5:34:57 PM PST by Irish Owl
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To: TitansAFC

I am sooo over Mitt Romney.


118 posted on 11/05/2008 5:36:01 PM PST by TNdandelion (This should be fun.)
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To: Bobkk47
Palin was an awful pick.

Did you pick that up from Katie Couric or Keith Olberman?

Secondly, Romney would have won this election. He would have debated rings around Obama, and his financial expertise would have made a very persuasive argument to the undecideds.

Why didn't Romney debate rings around McCain then? It might have actually helped him win the primaries. You really think that being the CEO of an investment banking firm would have helped him in this election? By the time, the Democrats got through with Romney, just about every voter in the country would have had the idea that the entire subprime mess was the sole responsibility of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital.

McCain was an awful candidate, the worst the GOP has had since Bob Dole.

Can't disagree with that statement but Romney wouldn't have been any better and probably would have been worse. Romney couldn't fire up the base and he wouldn't have had Sarah Palin to do so.

119 posted on 11/05/2008 5:36:36 PM PST by CommerceComet
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To: StAnDeliver

Yeah, I signed up to troll for a leading Republican candidate.


120 posted on 11/05/2008 5:36:45 PM PST by retrogo
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To: RedMonqey
"Yor’re the only one bring religion into this discussion. Romney’s a loser. Period."

Really? So how would you describe this, the third comment from the top:

"Sarah Palin is being treated unjustly and maliciously by these so-called religious people. I used to respect Mormons."

121 posted on 11/05/2008 5:37:43 PM PST by americanophile
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To: TitansAFC

“Today, Red State ran an article on the origination of nasty lies from within the McCain/Palin camp. They report, Romney staffers now working on the McPalin campaign have been spreading the stories of Palin’s “ineptitude” to the press. Red State and other reporters accuse Romney staffers, including Kevin Madden (former Romney press-man) of pushing reporters into “Troopergate” stories and other possible negative Palin story angles. Palin provides a threat to Romney for a presidential run, but now is not the time for in-party fighting.”

I wouldn’t be surprised, although I hate to go off on a story until it is confirmed.
The Republican party needs to get back to the things that made it appealing to voters. Romney is not part that change. The party needs to be purged of people like him.


122 posted on 11/05/2008 5:38:34 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Flush Obama/Biden in 2008!!!!)
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To: CharlotteVRWC
Don't mislead folks. Republicans come in three flavors ~

1. Conservatives (about 99.9875% ~ otherwise called "the base")

2. RINOs ~ Republicans in Name Only ~ not necessarily Democrats, but outside the mainstream, these guys are popular or charismatic in their homestates and when in office can serve as "placeholders" for party organization, sometimes even helping turn the Democrats into a non-governing minority.

3. Countryclubbers ~ usually wealthy people, maybe lawyers and doctors, who have "some time" to get involved in party organization activities ~ setting up campaigns, recruiting candidates, etc. Many pay their own way.

In recent years Republican narrow margins of control have put the RINOs in the position of controllng the direction legislation will take ~ much to the distress of "the base". Democrats suffered the Democat equivalent of these guys for years as "Blue Dog Democrats". They've snuffed most of them.

Countryclubbers are welcome at the party operations and organization level but they really ought to stay out of the party philosophy and theory levels. Since they're rich and/or bright people with something to add, they are frequently tolerated, but not when it comes to telling folks what "we believe".

Romney is kind of a base man with RINO leanings and a supporting staff of authentic but very dangerous countryclubbers who go off the reservation to attack Holy Rollers and Catholics.

Not quite sure what we ought to do about Romney since it's usually not a smart idea to purge former Governors.

Which reminds me, maybe Romney's supporters could be reminded that we haven't been kicking their Governor out so leave ours alone eh.

There, that's settled. We can all get along together now.

Send money!

123 posted on 11/05/2008 5:40:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Mitt Romney reminds me of George Hamilton.


124 posted on 11/05/2008 5:41:28 PM PST by TNdandelion (This should be fun.)
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To: CommerceComet; Bobkk47
You're responding with logic and common sense to a Romneybot. Unfortunately he'll be swayed by facts and reason as much as the Obama cultists were.


125 posted on 11/05/2008 5:43:36 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Marxism in the name of Jesus.


126 posted on 11/05/2008 5:44:42 PM PST by TNdandelion (This should be fun.)
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To: Reagan69
It's easier to run against a Dem President than a fellow Pub President??? Just my guess. LOL
127 posted on 11/05/2008 5:46:55 PM PST by TNdandelion (This should be fun.)
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To: TNdandelion

Hamilton’s a better actor.


128 posted on 11/05/2008 5:49:34 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Yeah...and a better color. (paranoid)


129 posted on 11/05/2008 5:52:50 PM PST by TNdandelion (This should be fun.)
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To: EverOnward

McCain’s campaign was not well run which was distressing when we tried to give the campaign a lot of names but no takers but by the same token I know where the leaks were coming from against Palin. If you think that I believe some paid Romney people wanted McCain/Palin to win then I have swampland for sale in AZ. That is not the people that supported Romney or volunteered. I am talking paid staffers that undermined Sarah Palin and continue to do so with their sniping.

Know all about how Romney’s people undermined other campaigns — funny when you all get together and compare notes you see a pattern.

Good if Romney never runs for office again so maybe he will call off the dogs against Sarah Palin. By this time he has to know who is behind it if the rest of us do.


130 posted on 11/05/2008 5:58:17 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: americanophile

Ok, You got one. It’s weak but it does mention Mormons. That’s hardly a pogram against Mormons and a hysterical comparsion to what Jews gone through. Come back when the State opens the camps for Mormons.


131 posted on 11/05/2008 6:11:29 PM PST by RedMonqey (Embracing my "Inner Redneck")
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To: Abbeville Conservative
Yeah... I wonder were are all the RomneyBots are now.... they can get the heck off of FreeRepublic... a bunch of Judas backstabbers just like the PUMAS.
132 posted on 11/05/2008 7:33:06 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

I think, by sabotaging McCain/Palin by Romney and his smitten mittens gave the Presidency to Obama and therefore working for the enemy.


133 posted on 11/05/2008 7:36:49 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: TitansAFC

At the risk of angering some Mitt fans here who I respect, I agree with this article.

But, there were others, as well. Time will tell.


134 posted on 11/05/2008 7:38:23 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I think Jim Robinson should purge FreeRepublic of ALL Romneybots !!


135 posted on 11/05/2008 7:38:28 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: onedoug

ping


136 posted on 11/05/2008 7:44:00 PM PST by stylecouncilor (I'm a loner Dottie; a rebel.)
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To: TitansAFC

Post the list please.


137 posted on 11/05/2008 7:46:20 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG....)
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To: timestax

I only voted for McCain because he picked Palin. She has the future.


138 posted on 11/05/2008 8:00:08 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG....)
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To: LdSentinal

yep, add Michael Savage to that list too.
He was a Romney supporter who was VICIOUS about Palin the first week or two after she was announced.


139 posted on 11/05/2008 8:10:30 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: org.whodat
Yea, because college education automatically means BIG INTELLECT and GREAT LEADER?
Don't fool yourself into thinking your superior to Palin because you got your degree in three years.
Woopty doo.
140 posted on 11/05/2008 8:26:06 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: PhiKapMom

BTTT


141 posted on 11/05/2008 8:30:32 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: TitansAFC
It never ends. The lies about Romney continue and he still catches all the blame, despite the fact that he campaigned his pattooty off for McCain/Palin and other Republicans.

The two most talented people we have are Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney. While the left does Palin in, the right does in Romney. Wonderful. Let's lose the presidency again in 2012. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Really AFC, you're better than that.

142 posted on 11/05/2008 8:34:37 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08 (Obama IS a socialist!))
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To: La Enchiladita

You Romneybot you. They’re smokin’ you out! : )


143 posted on 11/05/2008 8:36:18 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08 (Obama IS a socialist!))
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To: evad
I couldn't agree more with your entire post. Well said.

Unfortunately, they're running with the lies about Romney to stop once and for all any talk of his being the nominee in 2012. They lie like the Liberals. NOT a good thing.

144 posted on 11/05/2008 8:41:21 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08 (Obama IS a socialist!))
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To: snarkytart

No, I just know what the deer caught in the headlights look means. And it’s not someone I want in charge of the codes any more than I want bamma in charge.


145 posted on 11/05/2008 8:41:56 PM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: org.whodat

She was pulled from her element into a media firestorm and delivered almost every single time.
She will grow into handling the media..it’s called lack of inside the beltway experience, it’s not stupidity.


146 posted on 11/05/2008 8:47:15 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: PhiKapMom

The enemy within and the lies get bigger. You know full well that the people who supported Romney supported Palin. The Romney pepole I know are not happy with the way the McCain campaign was run, NOT with Palin. They fully support Pain.


147 posted on 11/06/2008 12:50:22 AM PST by EverOnward
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To: TAdams8591

First off, you have never heard me knock Romney (or Mormons, for that matter - someone seemed to lump with me the Anti-Mormon bigots earlier...).

I said “Team Romney,” and I meant it. That means all of the pro-Romney media saboteurs (Parker, among others), the campaign team who we now know have been leaking smears for a long time in a series of disgruntled acts for not picking their guy (Mitt), and those folks - members of Team Romney - who have been quick to spread ridiculous smears and attacks ONE day after the election in the hopes of destroying Palin so that Mitt somehow becomes the new front-runner.

My only repudiation of Mitt Romney himself right now is that he ought to be calling these folks out by name and repudiating them harshly. He could shut them up NOW - and nobody can convince me otherwise.

But we need to know their rnames, print their names, and remember their names. These folks are going to be looking for jobs in the next campaign season, and we need to make them radioactive for what they are doing, and have done, to Sarah Palin and this campaign.

I will never forget these folks - NEVER.


148 posted on 11/06/2008 5:49:50 AM PST by TitansAFC (In 2008, please vote GOP and show us that you love your country more than you hate John McCain)
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To: TAdams8591
..they're running with the lies about Romney to stop once and for all any talk of his being the nominee in 2012.

And their running with lies about Sarah too.
It's a total, concentrated effort to eliminate any future Republican candidate with a chance to win.

They want us to nominate another McCain.

149 posted on 11/06/2008 6:14:24 AM PST by evad (.!.)
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To: EverOnward

Did you bother to read what I said? I specifically said staffers not supporters — staffers are PAID. I have never said supporters on here did not support Palin. I know Romney supporting pundits that didn’t — Kathleen Parker and others. I made a specific point time after time of saying staffers not supporters.

There is a big difference and shame you cannot see it. Saw some of those paid staffers here in my state in an earlier campaign and don’t respect them and their tactics at all.


150 posted on 11/06/2008 8:04:09 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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