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Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?
vanity ^ | 11-5-08 | Various

Posted on 11/05/2008 4:34:48 PM PST by TitansAFC

Today, Red State ran an article on the origination of nasty lies from within the McCain/Palin camp. They report, Romney staffers now working on the McPalin campaign have been spreading the stories of Palin’s “ineptitude” to the press. Red State and other reporters accuse Romney staffers, including Kevin Madden (former Romney press-man) of pushing reporters into “Troopergate” stories and other possible negative Palin story angles. Palin provides a threat to Romney for a presidential run, but now is not the time for in-party fighting.

American Girl has been very critical of long-time Romney supporter Kathleen Parker (see here and here), a “Republican,” from the National Review for her consistent ridicule of Palin instead of criticising the Democrat ticket. Parker has proven to be a putrid, vile opportunist in this election. Parker has only proven to me that she would stab my dog if it helped her personal interests.

Mitt Romney has an obligation to his party and beliefs to publicly hog-tie Madden, Parker, and his surrogates (I have a list). If Romney fails to reign them in and rehires them for another WH bid, he can count on American Girl fighting hard against his nomination.

This is no threat, but a promise. I will take my money, my volunteers, my time, this blog, and more - and back another candidate. Guaranteed.

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When I was in St. Paul for the Republican Convention, more than a dozen people told me acolytes of Mitt Romney were feeding all the stories to the media portraying Palin in a negative light.

In fact, I heard that one of the biggest pushers of anti-Palin stories, including encouraging reporters to pursue the "Trooper-gate" story was Romney spokesman Kevin Madden.

I did not blog on it at the time because I perceived it to be people trying to finish off Romney. It likewise seemed clear to me that if this was going on, it was people loyal to Romney who were still hoping for his come back and not Romney himself.

These days it is hard to miss Kathleen Parker's savage attacks on Sarah Palin. She, along with several others listed here attacking Sarah Palin were also some of the first pundits in bed with the Romney campaign in 2007/8.

Again, it is hard for me to place the finger on Romney. It seems to me that these are people who are still convinced he's the better nominee and don't want Palin to be in any position to challenge him in 2012.

At this moment, however, it is absolutely clear -- there is an effort, organized or not, by supporters of Mitt Romney to harm the reputation of Governor Sarah Palin.

The American Spectator documented it yesterday.

Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House, have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election. "Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012," says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin. "The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He's in charge on November 5th."

Though I initially dismissed the Kevin Madden rumors, Amanda Carpenter has Kevin in his own words going after Sarah Palin.

And it is not just Madden. It may be hard for you to believe, but there are Romney supporters now working on John McCain's campaign who are, in fact, indisputably out to damage Sarah Palin's reputation. I am not just convinced of it. I know it to be fact. That there are "conservative pundits" echoing the same talking points makes me deeply suspicious.

I agree with Matt Lewis. I doubt Mitt Romney is responsible or encouraging it. In fact, I suspect he'd be extremely disappointed to find this out. Nonetheless, whether organic or organized, it is happening and it deeply worries me that these people now undermining Sarah Palin view Romney as the logical choice to lead the RNC or be the front runner in 2012. You don't get to sabotage your own side and then have your guy be the front runner.

We must remember this. Contrary to the quote in the American Spectator, if November 5th ushers in President-elect Obama, I stand with Sarah.


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To: All

You guys are going to have to get a new hobby.

Romney’s net worth is about 1/2 of what it was in January of this year. That costs not just him. It costs his kids and grandkids, too. The market has savaged him.

He’s not running again. For anything. Nothing in government could possibly pay him enough to have a shot at recovering his portfolio. He likely would have turned down any job McCain offered.

I think the folks on FR need to wake up and look at the world around them. It’s A Different World Than It Was Even As Recently As 1 September 2008. The markets are devastated. The net worth of the US of A is devastated.

And . . . what happened from mid Sept to late October is essentially the only reason McCain is not president elect. Not policy. Not campaigning style. Not Palin. Not Romney.

Money. The 3% of people who had to change their minds to beat Obama voted to punish the GOP brand for what happened in October. Just the same way they will punish Obama in 2012 for $250/barrel oil.

It doesn’t matter what abortion position there is. Or guns. Or gay marriage. Or missile defense in Poland. Or a middle name of Hussein.

People lost their life savings in October, and 3% made their choice.

Now relax, forget the hated Romney, the hated McCain and the hated anything else. Nothing matters for the next 4 years but the price of oil and the Dow Jones Industrial Average. Any talk of policy is utterly silly because for both sides . . . there’s no money to fund anything.


51 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:12 PM PST by Owen
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To: igoramus08

He reminds me of a slick car salesman.

Especially with that just too-perfect hair and those ever-s-white capped teeth.


52 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:13 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: TitansAFC
McCain and Romney RINOs of a feather.

Geeze I wanted either Fred or Hunter but the MSM and the RINO cabals have spoken and we got McCain.

The silver lining? Sarah Palin and what a breath of fresh air she turned out to be. She gave McCain half a chance and a heck of a lot more votes than he would have gotten with Romney or some other RINO for veep.

53 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:17 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: org.whodat; CharlotteVRWC

-—”This may be disinformation to further fragment the Republican Party.....
You could say that about this vanity as well.”-—

Right.....even with the actual quotes from Romney-ites, right?


54 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:18 PM PST by TitansAFC (In 2008, please vote GOP and show us that you love your country more than you hate John McCain)
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To: TitansAFC
With Bush not grooming a successor and McCain probably not running again due to his age, that opens up struggles by others for control of the GOP.

The person/faction that manages to wrangle controller-ship of the party has a leg up on the 2012 nomination.

If that struggle takes too long, it could ruin GOP hopes for both 2010 and 2012.

55 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:32 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: igoramus08

For an upbeat conservative 100% patriotic ticket, I would choose Palin/Huckabee.

(If we still have free elections in 2012. It’s possible that the ticket then could be Obama/Ayers vs. Obama/Ayers.)


56 posted on 11/05/2008 4:50:58 PM PST by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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To: TitansAFC
"I did not blog on it at the time because I perceived it to be people trying to finish off Romney."

Looks like Romney's people have finished off Romney. If he can't control his staff, how can he hope to be President?

57 posted on 11/05/2008 4:52:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a Suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: TitansAFC

This is disheartening.

Sarah Palin is a true conservative and one of the only reasons that McCain didn’t lose by a larger margin. I wouldn’t have voted for McCain had Palin not come on board.

Whether or not Romney or any of his team members are behind these lies, Romney is not a TRUE CONSERVATIVE.

Romney is washed up and toast. I will not support him for a run in 2012. We need someone more like Duncan Hunter. Someone who stands up for conservative values no matter what!

Besides, I am renouncing my Republican Party affiliation today. So...honestly I don’t care who the next GOP nominee is, the GOP can KISS MY ASS GOODBYE!


58 posted on 11/05/2008 4:52:20 PM PST by sierrascrapper (DUNCAN HUNTER the TRUE CONSERVATIVE CHOICE that was shut out)
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To: Bobkk47
Romney would have won this election.

GMAFB... Romney would have lost in a Mondale-like landslide. In retrospect, McCain is the ONLY GOP candidate that could have made this a race considering all that he was up against. Palin was excellent and energized the base in a way that @ss Romney never could have. I am so sick of RINO Romney sycophants desecrating this forum.

59 posted on 11/05/2008 4:54:29 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: LdSentinal; All

You may also want to consider Nina Easton of Fox Panel. Her husband was a muckity-muck in the Romney campaign. Another one who couldn’t wait to sink her claws into Governor Palin.


60 posted on 11/05/2008 4:55:19 PM PST by fortunate sun (Proud Palinista!)
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To: TitansAFC
"Today, Red State ran an article on the origination of nasty lies from within the McCain/Palin camp...Romney staffers now working on the McPalin campaign...including Kevin Madden...pushing reporters into “Troopergate”...Palin provides a threat to Romney for a presidential run...critical of long-time Romney supporter Kathleen Parker, a “Republican,” from the National Review for her consistent ridicule of Palin instead of criticising the Democrat ticket. Parker has proven to be a putrid, vile opportunist in this election. Parker has only proven to me that she would stab my dog if it helped her personal interests...This is no threat, but a promise. I will take my money, my volunteers, my time, this blog, and more - and back another candidate. Guaranteed."

A famous commentator is also way off Romney for '12. Sharing a vile hatred of Ed Rollins is not enough to make enemies of enemies puerile friends...

But back to Madden & Murphy -- nobody deserved it more than Romney:

Adviser says governor "faked" stance on abortion

"Governor Mitt Romney's top political strategist [Mike Murphy] has told a prominent conservative magazine that his client has been ''faking" his support of abortion rights in Massachusetts."


61 posted on 11/05/2008 4:55:41 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Schadenfreude!)
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To: Palladin
Huckabee's as much of a redistributionist as Obama, just with the Gomer Pyle GOL-OLL-Lyyyyy!! or Sha-ZAYAMMM!


62 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:38 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: TitansAFC

Oh, here we go again. Blaming Romney’s Mormons is starting to become like blaming the Jews for everything.


63 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:45 PM PST by americanophile
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To: TitansAFC
Romney has never stopped running for President.

He would have lost too, and if he ever runs he will lose.

64 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:45 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: TitansAFC

Rich,white men are all become LIBERALS! Bush included.

Romney is a total turkey who I mistrust;birds of a feather flock together.
His staff is garbage and so is Romney for not stopping this.


65 posted on 11/05/2008 4:57:45 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: GerardKempf

“the infighting has begun and it’s not bringing us any closer to unifying this party. The his fault her fault crud is only giving the Dems strength.”

Not necessarily. This has to be done. The party has to get rid of those who are RINO. They have showed that they are dem lite. That is not what the Republican party needs. When we had true Conservatives at the helm, what happened? We won...1980, 1984, 1988 (carryover from Reagan), 1994 with the Contract for America. What has happened since? The Republicans became the party of amnesty and big government. We got our clocks cleaned in 2006 and last night with those people in power.

We need to get back to our true roots. Only way to do that is expose and run out the RINOs. You can’t make an omlette without breaking a few eggs. Then our party can unify behind the true ideals of Conservatism.


66 posted on 11/05/2008 4:58:57 PM PST by MissouriConservative (If My people, who are called by My Name, will humble themselves and pray...2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Mega Dittos!


67 posted on 11/05/2008 5:00:07 PM PST by melissa_in_ga (Welcome to the USSA. Be alert. Stock up.)
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To: TitansAFC; All

Don’t be so quick to believe something you read.
There is no real source to these rumors. It could also be that the same person that wants to throw Gov Palin under the bus, is the same person(s) that want to also throw Romney under the bus!


68 posted on 11/05/2008 5:00:14 PM PST by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: GerardKempf

We might as well get it out of our systems now. Now is the time for ‘infighting’! The future of conservatism is at stake! None of us wanted McCain to begin with...not many more wanted Romney.

It is time for new blood in the party. Sarah fits the bill. The only thing that concerns me in the least about her is what appears to be a populist streak. Other than that..she has my attention big time. Bobby Jindal does too.


69 posted on 11/05/2008 5:00:53 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: americanophile

Accusing people who are anti-Romney of being anti-Mormon is what has gotten old. Newsflash-— I hate McCain too.

In general I despise people in the party who promote liberalism, condone it, or pose as something they are not. Romney poses as a conservative, and does a bad job at it, then sics his supporters on the real articles while keeping his hands clean on the surface.


70 posted on 11/05/2008 5:01:34 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: TitansAFC

I think they sabotaged Mac’s entire campaign. Now, I wonder why they would want to do that.


71 posted on 11/05/2008 5:01:52 PM PST by Reagan69
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To: TitansAFC
No I saw enough to make up my own mind, I really don't need any more info. "attended five colleges in six years before graduation with journalism degree". I graduated in three years with BS.
72 posted on 11/05/2008 5:02:20 PM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: CharlotteVRWC; All
This may be disinformation to further fragment the Republican Party.....

Gee, 'ya think??/s
73 posted on 11/05/2008 5:03:18 PM PST by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: SMCC1
Romney is the biggest phony there is (well, maybe Hussein is #1).

It says a lot about how weak a candidate Mitt is that for all of his advantages (money, pedigree, looks, organization, smart, communications skills, etc) he still failed to connect with primary voters.

Many of his supporters blame religious bigotry for Romney's demise. The real reason is authenticity bigotry. Republican voters don't like phonies.

74 posted on 11/05/2008 5:03:27 PM PST by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: Soul Seeker
Just responding to what I read:

"Sarah Palin is being treated unjustly and maliciously by these so-called religious people. I used to respect Mormons."

75 posted on 11/05/2008 5:04:40 PM PST by americanophile
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To: StAnDeliver

You believe that?

Romney’s a fraud and a liar.


76 posted on 11/05/2008 5:05:11 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: TitansAFC
I believe Mitt to be a honorable man of integrity and in no way associated with these allegations.

It amazes me how FReepers run wild with disinformation as though it were fact.

I would think a Romney/Palin ticket would have beaten The One but alas, we had our candidate selected by dimocrats and MSM.

If you want to vent against someone, do everything you can to further discredit and bring down this 5th column that calls itself the free press.

77 posted on 11/05/2008 5:05:41 PM PST by evad (.!.)
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To: TitansAFC

Hey team Romney

He hasn’t got a snowball’s chance in hell of ever getting elected nationally. Deal with that.


79 posted on 11/05/2008 5:05:52 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: TitansAFC

Anyone notice that female Nina ___ from Fortune magazine on the show with Brit Hume. What’s her background. Is she a Mitt-bot?


80 posted on 11/05/2008 5:05:59 PM PST by pointsal
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To: MissouriConservative

Bravo.


81 posted on 11/05/2008 5:06:14 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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Besides all of Romney’s other obvious flaws, after the Stock Market scandal does ANYONE remotely believe he could elected?

No way. He would have been MONDALED if he had been the nominee.

McCain should come out and denounce this crap, but I bet he doesn’t.


82 posted on 11/05/2008 5:06:29 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: Palladin

So sorry to disagree with you, but Huckabee helped to get us McCain in the first place! I am never going to forgive him for that one. He is nothing more than a populist syncophant. Let him have his little show on Fox, play his guitar. That’s where he belongs right now.


83 posted on 11/05/2008 5:06:49 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: TitansAFC

Over the next few years the conservative movement needs to rebuild. Palin or Romney? Who will draw people to fundraisers, conventions, etc?


84 posted on 11/05/2008 5:06:55 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: CaribouCrossing

It is true! I know personally some of the backstabbing of the other candidates by Romney’s people. I don’t think for a minute that he did not know what was happening.

The Romney/Bush people from Jeb and GW have been leaking against Palin from Day One. There was a meeting in June with Bush/Cheney/Romney to try and put pressure on McCain to pick Romney as VP. I was told by a reliable source that never was going to happen. For months the Romney surrogates pushed for him to be the VP candidate and you can bet money he would have undermined McCain.

Remember that Romney was in the meeting of economic people that suggested McCain suspend his campaign and fly back to DC and ask the President to have a meeting which McCain and Boehner were backstabbed by Paulson/Bush when they let Obama run the meeting and Paulson made sure Obama had the House GOP plan which he proceeded to tear apart.

Connect the dots!


85 posted on 11/05/2008 5:07:04 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: americanophile
Look, people are very suspicious of “newbies” who show up the day after a big GOP defeat asking questions about conservatives. DailyKos types do it all the time. If you really are a conservative, then stick around for a while and let people get used to you - if you are sincere then I'll be the first to apologize, and will be happy to discuss whatever you want.
86 posted on 11/05/2008 5:07:53 PM PST by americanophile
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To: Bobkk47

Yeah, I’m sure conservatives would have turned out in droveeds for the socialist Romney, especially after they started running all the videos of his advocating abortion, homosexual rights, gun control etc.

If you believe Romney is a conservative, you probably believe that Obama had no idea Rev Wright was a racist.


87 posted on 11/05/2008 5:08:22 PM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: TitansAFC
more than a dozen people told me acolytes of Mitt Romney were feeding all the stories to the media portraying Palin in a negative light.

This is second hand or third hand information. Kind of like someone saying to you "you should have heard what they were saying about you" because they want to start an argument. The person who wrote this should have kept it to themselves, they are being played in my opinion.

88 posted on 11/05/2008 5:08:29 PM PST by retrogo
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To: Perdogg

I never liked Romney, and not just because of “Romney Care” in Massachusetts.


89 posted on 11/05/2008 5:08:37 PM PST by kesg
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To: pointsal

I believe she is.


90 posted on 11/05/2008 5:09:48 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Bobkk47
Palin was an awful pick.

You've got to be joking. Palin was one of the ONLY things McCain got right in this campaign. Name ONE VP pick who could have raked in the votes like Palin did. It wasn't enough to win, sure, but she generated enthusiasm that we haven't seen since Reagan. No one was going to get fired up about the Maverick/Helmet ticket, face it.

Palin will be back. McCain is history. Romney has crapped his pants with this backstabbing nonsense.

91 posted on 11/05/2008 5:09:58 PM PST by TXBlair (Oprah, you can expect to see me at your door with my hand wide open.)
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To: Owen
And . . . what happened from mid Sept to late October is essentially the only reason McCain is not president elect. Not policy. Not campaigning style. Not Palin. Not Romney.

Agree with all you say Owen except what happened in the primary sealed our doom. We just had the wrong guy forced on us.

The real question is, will we figure it out?

92 posted on 11/05/2008 5:10:01 PM PST by evad (.!.)
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To: pointsal

Nina’s husband was part of Romney’s national campaign.

I do believe his staffers were/are doing this however, I seriously doubt he is behind it.


93 posted on 11/05/2008 5:10:26 PM PST by Reagan69
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To: AHerald

One of the big reasons Romney didn’t make it was because of the MSM. They took him out early. The MSM then promoted 0 to such a degree that now he IS POTUS.

Do I really have to say it? Don’t believe everything you read.


94 posted on 11/05/2008 5:10:32 PM PST by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: Bobkk47

This election wasn’t about who won the debates or who had the experience. The press saw to that. Honest reporting would have given both to McCain hands down.

It was about who had the curb appeal, who was a novelty, who could make the world love America again, and who was perceived as more like the middle clas than an elitist new englander like George Bush.

Romney loses on all counts. Plus many Americans think of Mormonism as a cult. Unfortunate but true. 20,000 people at a time in middle America wouldn’t have turned out to see and hear Romney give a speech.

Romney will never win a national election. Never.


95 posted on 11/05/2008 5:12:54 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: boomop1
I'll fight anybody putting down Governor Palin.


96 posted on 11/05/2008 5:13:48 PM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: TitansAFC
I am/was a strong supporter of Romney in the primary. I guess everyone seems to forget the misrepresentations McCain (himself not his surrogates) played against him with the whole "timeline" issue before Super Tuesday. All and all I doubt Romney would have won either. He would have been great in the debates but the election was more of a refutation of Bush and I doubt any Republican could won this year.

Even if Romney is behind these attacks on Palin, its nice to have a Republican who will not pull punches and can fight (no matter how "swarmy") unlike Bush I, Bush II, Dole and McCain.

97 posted on 11/05/2008 5:13:49 PM PST by Fast Ed97
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To: TitansAFC

If Mitt ever runs, I will stay home.


98 posted on 11/05/2008 5:16:52 PM PST by bfree (Vote McCain, Not Hussein!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
"You believe that?"

Noob ... are you sure you know who you are responding to?

Go back and read #61 again ... the easily grasped point of citing Murphy's Globe gotcha is that Romney ... has proven incapable of hiring nothing more than double-crossing Hessian mercenaries to run his national political aspirations ... something we can do without in the next conservative candidate ...

99 posted on 11/05/2008 5:17:33 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Schadenfreude!)
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To: Palladin
Sarah Palin is being treated unjustly and maliciously by these so-called religious people. I used to respect Mormons.

I still do. But not the Romney campaign or Mitt himself. (Methinks George would be ashamed.)

100 posted on 11/05/2008 5:18:59 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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