Posted on 11/06/2008 1:35:14 PM PST by Demosthenes
The justices have achieved their position because of their knowledge and respect of the law. They are not en mass going to ignore this situation. (Particularly Souter) Guess I should have put some kind of sarcasm marks around that part.
Not this crap again
If you aren’t interested in facts, why post?
Some people believe that he really does have natural born status and that there is something in the original BC that is embarassing to him - thats why he’s stonewalling.
Most embarassing thing I can think of is that he was born a girl and named Barbra (after Streisand) and that when he went to Indonesia as a boy, he had a sex change operation.
Jest kidding - but there might be something there that he is ashamed of ...
On the other hand, there are two many ambiguites and questions that have been raised about his status, so that it is in the nation’s interest to put it to rest. The Constitution takes precedence over any single citizen.
Therefore, the BC should be made public - warts and all (if any).
If he is found to be natural born, fine - he won fair and square. I would swallow my teeth, but he would be MY President.
However, if the BC proves that he is NOT natural born, then he needs to be disqualified.
Nobody made Obama run for POTUS, he MUST accept the consequences of running.
If he is legit and gets a little embarassed, well - thats life. If he gets disqualified, well, thats shameful.
Remember ...
If you want to run with the BIG dawgs ... you gotta learn to piss in the TALL grass ...
If true then full speed ahead.
His real Islamic name is Nimrod. He doesn’t want to be called President Nimrod.
If you aren’t interested in this topic, why not play in another sandbox?
I found two files regarding this case:
http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a391.htm
http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm
Both appear to be denied, or am I reading these wrong.
Read them carefully - petition to ATAY the election on 11/04/08 was denied.
Response by Obama is STILL required by 12/01/08.
STAY, that is ... fat fingered it ...
The Ayatollah Hussein IS NOT the President elect yet, and may never be. We will see what the Electors decide mid-December about supporting an illegal alien as President of the US. McCain may yet win.
Any lawyers care to explain once and for all?
A petition For a Writ of Certiorari is a legal request to have the Supreme Court agree to accept a case on appeal from a lower court.
Phillip Berg has asked Justice David Souter to grant such a Writ and Souter has taken the issue under advisement. Souter has asked Obama’s lawyers to submit their arguments by December 1st as to whether he should proceed to request a Writ of Certiorari. Supreme Court procedure is that 4 of the Justices must concur before the Supreme Court agrees to hear a case. The Supreme Court receives about 8,000 Petitions for a Writ of Certiorari a year and it usually accepts about 25 of those (which is called “granting cert”).
Granting Cert: the Supreme Court will hear a case that lost at a lower level.
Cert denied: the Supreme Court rejects the Petition for Writ of Certiorari and will not accept a case from a lower court on appeal.
So the SCOTUS denied it, correct?
Obama does not HAVE TO show a birt cert by any given date, correct?
You’re most welcome.
The Supreme Court has neither accepted nor denied the case. Justice Souter will rule on the merits at some time after December 1.
There is no decision yet on whether Obama will have to show a birth certificate by any certain date but those who are saying that Justice Souter is requiring Obama to show his long form birth certificate by December 1 are mistaken. The only thing Obama’s lawyers have to do by December 1st is respond to the Berg Petition for a Writ of Certiorari if they want to take a position on whether or not it should be granted.
This is the ORIGINAL scotus case #: 08-570
Title: Philip J. Berg, Petitioner v. Barack Obama, et al.
Docketed: October 31, 2008 (placed on the docket with SCOTUS)
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit (this is the court from which Berg is appealing)
This is the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit case #: 08-4340
Rule 11: Berg is asserting that Supreme Court Rule 11 applies. His reasoning is that: “the Supreme Court may still grant certiorari under Rule 11 because this case “is of such imperative public importance as to justify deviation from normal appellate practice and to require immediate determination of this Court.” Supreme Court Rule 11.
Oct 30 2008: Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed FOR THE original SCOTUS case # 08-570. (Response due December 1, 2008). This gives Obama the deadline to respond.
Oct 31 2008: Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter. NOTE THE NEW CASE # ... This NEW case number is an application for an injunction.
Nov 3 2008: Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed. This is a supplemental brief to the ORIGINAL case # 08-570.
Nov 3 2008: Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter. THIS IS THE DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION FOR AN INJUNCTION.
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