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Ronald Reagan's BIGGEST Mistake....is
My Keyboard ^ | 10/6/2008 | Robert Eimiller

Posted on 11/06/2008 3:27:18 PM PST by Bob Eimiller

Ronald Reagan is one of the greatest Presidents in history, but I now realize nobody is perfect. There is no way he could have foreseen or even imagined that his first and most important decision would sow the seeds of Marxism in America.

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Ronald Reagan is one of the greatest Presidents in history, but I now realize nobody is perfect. There is no way he could have foreseen or even imagined that his first and most important decision would sow the seeds of Marxism in America.

When he selected George H. W. Bush as his running mate. H.W. was placed in position to carry on the mantle of Reaganism...or preferably American Conservatism. Unfortunately the man who considered the Laffer curve, or simply "trickle down economics"... Voodoo economics. In fact I believe H.W. Bush even coined that phrase during the Republican debates for the 1980 election.

H.W. was no conservative and his economic policies and political naivete' spawned a Clinton presidency. George H.H. Bush actually drove the country to the Clinton's with a pathetic campaign of moderation and left leaning compromise.

After eight painful years of embarrassment and the policies of a Clinton regime the country was still clinging to a "wisp" of memory and fondness for the Reagan philosophy...individual responsibility, prosperity and love of the greatest country in history.

George W. Bush captured a spotlight because he was the only hope, albeit another "Bush", who ran cloaked in the Reagan mantle. Note he used Reagan as his mentor...certainly not his father!

George W. Bush another great "Reaganite" in moderate clothing...was a typical Bush.

George W. and his obviously "inherited" traits became the fertile ground for Marxism in America and our "FRIEND" John McCain completed the demise of our precious America.

Yes... our beloved Ronald Reagan sowed the seeds for Marxism Obama style for generations to come.

Our tears on Memorial Day will be a sad reminder of the blood shed by two short centuries of heroes who died in vain for the liberty we may have just lost forever.

1 posted on 11/06/2008 3:27:19 PM PST by Bob Eimiller
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To: Bob Eimiller

Nobody who arrives in Washington can escape the deal-makers.


2 posted on 11/06/2008 3:29:27 PM PST by Misterioso ( "Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon." -- M. Rothschild.)
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To: All

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Fight the Marxist. We’re going after him.
http://www.freedommarch.org/


3 posted on 11/06/2008 3:29:36 PM PST by patriot08
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To: Bob Eimiller

His biggest mistake was not fighting hard for Robert Bork. This nation is a lesser nation because he is not on the USSC.


4 posted on 11/06/2008 3:29:42 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (We are all cubans now!)
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To: Bob Eimiller

To me his biggest mistake was not going after those who bombed the marine barracks ....was afraid of the Arab street ....might have gotten really mad ....


5 posted on 11/06/2008 3:29:52 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Bob Eimiller
You forgot Colin Powell.


6 posted on 11/06/2008 3:31:43 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Bob Eimiller

Reagan’s biggest mistake was signing the original amnesty bill without securing sufficient safegauards that would be enforced.


7 posted on 11/06/2008 3:32:24 PM PST by lone star annie
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To: patriot08

I hope you’re prepared to be called racists, and can give it the weight it deserves-none.


8 posted on 11/06/2008 3:32:58 PM PST by mrsmel (That one is not my president.)
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To: Bob Eimiller

I knew things were going to go downhill as soon as President Bush Sr. declared that he wanted “a kinder, gentler nation” as if the country under Reagan somehow was not kind enough.

His son “W” then went on to squander the Reagan legacy and bury the Reagan revolution.

W is to Obama what Carter was to Reagan.


9 posted on 11/06/2008 3:33:52 PM PST by CrosscutSaw
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To: Bob Eimiller

thought this thread might be about Ron Jr.


10 posted on 11/06/2008 3:34:23 PM PST by outlawjake
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To: lone star annie

I agree! We live with this decision today. How many times have I heard a democrat say well Reagan offered the same program when he was President.

He didn’t see the precedent he was setting.


11 posted on 11/06/2008 3:34:49 PM PST by Moconservative
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To: Bob Eimiller
Biggest mistake as President: Anthony Kennedy, not even close. While he could have fought harder for Bork, there were plenty of other like-minded jurists Reagan could have nominated to the bench after him. Roe v. Wade would be on the trash heap of history by now but-for Kennedy's spineless changing of his vote in Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

Biggest mistake as governor was not being a social conservative. Liberal abortion laws and no-fault divorce all started in this country because of laws he signed off on. Further, he was live and let live with some early anti-homosexual behavior laws.

12 posted on 11/06/2008 3:36:42 PM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: darkwing104
You forgot Colin Powell.

Colin Powell was appointed Secretary of State by Bush... Chairman of the joint chiefs was not a policy mistake. Powell was just a soldier who was promoted and actually did his job.

13 posted on 11/06/2008 3:37:22 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Bob Eimiller

Funny you bring this up. Just the other day I was thinking about when the post Reagan downfall began and the one thing that stuck out in my mind was when Bush the Elder gave a speech talking about “the new world order”. I remember thinking WHAT!!!


14 posted on 11/06/2008 3:37:40 PM PST by Coachm
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To: GreatOne

H.W BUSH gave us Suitor... I rest my case


15 posted on 11/06/2008 3:39:18 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Bob Eimiller

In a way that’s true. But history doesn’t stand still. Things change and nothing lasts forever. Even without the Bushes involved, the fortunes of a party or an ideology wax and wane. But misfortune doesn’t last forever either.


16 posted on 11/06/2008 3:40:03 PM PST by x
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To: CrosscutSaw
W is to Obama what Carter was to Reagan.

I've been saying for weeks that Obama will be Carter II. How I wish McCain had picked up on Obama's bind him with bad news tatic and compared every one of Obama's proposals to Carter's failed presidency. Appropriateely doing an end run around the Clinton years, and reminding people just what happens when democrats take over because you vote 'against" a previous opponent rather than voting "for" policies of candidates running in the current election.
17 posted on 11/06/2008 3:40:42 PM PST by gatechie
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To: Bob Eimiller

Biggest mistake: Amnesty.
Second biggest mistake: Signing into law abortion in California.

The creative revisionist history is entertaining, but completely ignores the Perot factor. People were sick and tired of imbalanced budgets and an ever expanding federal reach into our lives. Only 4 out of ten voted for Clinton, and this was after George Bush had already been in office for nearly four years. Had we controlled the insatiable appetite in congress for spending money, giving away freebies and pork, and actually controlled the size of government which Reaganites wanted, Perot would never have happened.

Instead we had unionization of public employees across the nation, ensuring that no matter what was done with today’s budget, it’ll be ten times as wacked out in a decade from all the promised salaries, bonuses and retirements.


18 posted on 11/06/2008 3:42:53 PM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Bob Eimiller
There is no way he could have foreseen or even imagined that his first and most important decision would sow the seeds of Marxism in America.

Don't blame Ronaldus Maximus! The seeds of Communism were planted well and deep here long before under such 'leaders' as F.D.R. and others of his ilk. The Communists tried to take over in the 30's during the Depression and failed but they never gave up and just morphed into a long term plan, infiltrating the schools, churches and government agencies. Now the seed has sprouted.

19 posted on 11/06/2008 3:43:23 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Bob Eimiller

Reagan’s biggest failure was Beirut.

We’re still paying for cutting and running out of there in 83’.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 3:45:38 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: gatechie

Are you kidding?? Carter wasn’t a MARXIST.... Obama isn’t an incompetent socialist like Carter... Obama may be dangerous to our way of life.


21 posted on 11/06/2008 3:46:42 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Bob Eimiller
"is"? OK, it is being dead!
22 posted on 11/06/2008 3:47:24 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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To: Don Corleone

Reagan destroyed the “seed” ...The Bushes reconstituted it.


23 posted on 11/06/2008 3:48:30 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: darkwing104

I don’t believe that Colin Powell as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was a mistake. SOS is another thing altogether.


24 posted on 11/06/2008 3:51:46 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of The Free Because of The Brave)
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To: Bob Eimiller

I think the republican party lost conservatives when Trent Lott sold his soul to the devil and let Clinton off in the dead of night behind closed doors.

That’s when the republican party lost it’s soul.


25 posted on 11/06/2008 3:53:05 PM PST by stockpirate (Sarah for Chairwoman of the RNC.. Or the RNC can go to hell - BORG - Barack Obama Resistance Group)
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To: SkyDancer

Don’t you know who advised Reagan to pull out of Lebanon?? None other than JOHN MURTHA!!!!! Also, I have heard recently that McCain also advised him of that.....during the campaign, so don’y know if it’s true.


26 posted on 11/06/2008 3:59:19 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SkyDancer

Don’t you know who advised Reagan to pull out of Lebanon?? None other than JOHN MURTHA!!!!! Also, I have heard recently that McCain also advised him of that.....during the campaign, so don’y know if it’s true.


27 posted on 11/06/2008 3:59:33 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
His biggest mistake was not fighting hard for Robert Bork. This nation is a lesser nation because he is not on the USSC.

We should be glad he never had a chance to vote on Heller:

"The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that there is no individual right to own a firearm. The Second Amendment was designed to allow states to defend themselves against a possibly tyrannical national government. Now that the federal government has stealth bombers and nuclear weapons, it is hard to imagine what people would need to keep in the garage to serve that purpose."

--Robert Bork, Slouching toward Gomorrah

28 posted on 11/06/2008 4:00:48 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Bob Eimiller
He was a great president. His biggest mistake was amnesty and believing it would remain a one time deal.
29 posted on 11/06/2008 4:01:58 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: Bob Eimiller

I’ve been saying for years that picking Bush was the Gipper’s biggest mistake. But I would never say he sowed the seeds for Obama.


30 posted on 11/06/2008 4:02:34 PM PST by LeavingNewYork
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To: Bob Eimiller

Yup. Bingo. Could’ve picked Kemp or another even better young conservative, instead he picked and old Tory.


31 posted on 11/06/2008 4:03:54 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Barack Obama, the American Salvador Allende.)
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To: Bob Eimiller
Have you seens what he's been up to in Georgia lately? Between his Carter center "Waging peace, fighting desease, Building hope . . . . Help us change the world" and poking his nose into conversations with foreign govt's about US policy in order to subvert the sitting president.

He's outgrown the smiling face Southerner you remmber from the 1970s. He'd never be as good a speaker with that Southern drawl, but he's every bit as partisan and anti-American.
32 posted on 11/06/2008 4:04:52 PM PST by gatechie
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To: Bob Eimiller
The Rockefeller group supposedly told Reagan in Detroit he would not be President if he didn't pick Bush.
33 posted on 11/06/2008 4:05:09 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: Bob Eimiller

dying while we still needed him? God Rest your soul, Beloved Ronnie.


34 posted on 11/06/2008 4:06:48 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Jimmah Carter cubed. Obama, the only man in America who can make Hillary Clinton look good.)
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To: Ann Archy

Kinda before my time, just remember reading about it ... Murtha huh, figures ... and McCain???

I had bad feelings regarding McCain. Only reason I voted for him was Sarah .....


35 posted on 11/06/2008 4:07:20 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Bob Eimiller
Ronald Reagan's biggest mistake of his lifetime was making this statement, which is often posted by libertarian goofballs who have nothing better to do with their lives than to hang around and pollute this conservative website:

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.

The statement was made to a group of libertarians whom Ragan was hoping to draft into his presidential campaign. Luckily, Reagan lost to Ford the following year, and went on to refine his own political philosophy even further. Thus did the man who was once a democrat that sympathised with liberals, who as governor of California signed an abortion bill into law, follow the common transition that liberals make through libertarianism into liberalism. President Reagan expanded the federal war on drugs to the state we know it today. He sent American troops over seas, even when it was not vital to our national interest, he championed anti-pornography laws, and restrictions on abortion. Generally speaking, Ronald Reagan the president was a greater foe to the libertarians than any Democrat president in recent memory. And bear in mind, that when we talk about "Reagan Conservatives" here, we are only referring to President Reagan, as opposed to Democrat Ronald Reagan or earlier years. Like the rest of us, the man evolved over the years, be we conservatives only rever the Conservative giant that he eventually became.

36 posted on 11/06/2008 4:07:57 PM PST by presidio9 (America: Home of Affirmative Action in Leadership.)
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To: Bob Eimiller
H.W BUSH gave us Suitor (sic)... I rest my case

With respect, I disagree. First, you asked for Reagan's biggest mistake, not Bush I; each was egregious. Second, Kennedy has done much, much more damage than Souter. While both have been on the wrong side of major decisions, it is often Kennedy who writes the decision - the "sweet mysteries of life" pablum from Casey, for example.

37 posted on 11/06/2008 4:08:36 PM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Bob Eimiller

Ridiculous. If this is some attempt to further besmirch President Bush, then it’s near-sighted. Pres. Bush has accomplished some significant things, and he has made a few mistakes.

His successes have out-weighed his mistakes. His greatest mistake was in not defending himself. I’ll never understand that, and it contained the seeds that was responsible for McCain’s loss.

However, a real conservative could have overcome that in this election. Sen McCain was not able to overcome, because Sen McCain is not a real conservative.


38 posted on 11/06/2008 4:09:33 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Bob Eimiller

Amnesty.


39 posted on 11/06/2008 4:10:58 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("...a hyphenated American is not an American at all." T. Roosevelt)
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To: Bob Eimiller

The Bush family are ideologically corrupt.


40 posted on 11/06/2008 4:11:30 PM PST by Globalist Goon ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: Bob Eimiller
When Lewis Powell stepped down from the Supreme Court, Ronald Reagan should have FIRST selected Robert Bork to replace Powell while the Republicans still controlled the Senate.

Once the Democrats took the Senate it was too late for Bork because the Democrats violated all truth and principle to destroy a most qualified selection in Bork.

Instead he wasted the opportunity by selecting Sandra Day O'Connor, which he did in part to throw a bone to the "forced diversity" cult.

Even the great Reagan fell prey to the nonstop drumbeat of political correctness and the politics of forced 'diversity'.

41 posted on 11/06/2008 4:11:38 PM PST by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: SkyDancer

yeah...me too. WHY isn’t McCain screaming to his aides to STOP LYING about SARAH??? Or is Johnny BEHIND this?


42 posted on 11/06/2008 4:12:54 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CrosscutSaw

“Compassionate Conservatism” ... my ass.


43 posted on 11/06/2008 4:13:44 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Misterioso

some cartoonist always drew HW Bush carring a PURSE.
like a sissy Bitch.


44 posted on 11/06/2008 4:14:53 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: gatechie

But not a Marxist... Big difference


45 posted on 11/06/2008 4:14:58 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Bob Eimiller

For some reason, when it comes to the Gipper’s biggest mistake, not getting Nancy to abort Skipper comes to mind...but no, that would have been wrong.


46 posted on 11/06/2008 4:15:01 PM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Bob Eimiller
His biggest mistake was stating the intention to take as many people off of the income tax rolls as possible. This backfired spectacularly, as instead of freeing entrepreneurs from crushing tax burdens it has created a large and growing caste of moochers who have no intention of ever becoming productive enough to pay their own way. When they hit 50%, it's lights out for America - and we may be there now. If we are going to have an income tax at all, then everybody should pay - down to the first dollar earned.

Reagan was also one of the first to advance the disastrous idea that home ownership would magically turn minorities into conservative voters.

The good he did greatly outweighed the bad, but Reagan was certainly not the pristine economic conservative he is imagined to be on FR.

47 posted on 11/06/2008 4:15:33 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Finalapproach29er
The Rockefeller group supposedly told Reagan in Detroit he would not be President if he didn't pick Bush.

Wow... I never knew.... ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Are you well stocked in Tin Foil?

48 posted on 11/06/2008 4:17:06 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule; Ken H
One interesting side to the Robert Bork story you don't hear very much is that back when he was appointed there were a number of Republicans who were happy to see his nomination destroyed by the Democrats.

A lot of these Republicans never forgave him for the role he played as Richard Nixon's "hatchet-man."

49 posted on 11/06/2008 4:17:45 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: outlawjake
thought this thread might be about Ron Jr.

I started to laugh at this, but the more I think about it; the harder it gets to form an argument against it....

50 posted on 11/06/2008 4:18:01 PM PST by awelliott
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