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Update Marion County Lags Behind in Vote Tabulation- Indiana Switched to McCain???
Indiana Secretary of State Results ^

Posted on 11/06/2008 3:45:10 PM PST by TruthCanHurt

Edited on 11/06/2008 8:19:48 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Indiana Presidental Predictions In Doubt

Declaring Indiana for obama might be premature per the Indiana Sec of States website. This was just updated...

Indiana General Election November 4, 2008

Last Updated November 6, 2008 (06:27 PM)

District Candidate Votes
Statewide Obama, Barack Joe Biden (Democratic) 1037982  
Barr, Bob Wayne A. Root (Libertarian) 24100  
McCain, John Sarah Palin (Republican) 1115146  
Faith, Michael L. (W/I(Americas Independent)) 12  
Castle, Darrell L. (W/I(Constitution)) 4  
McKinney, Cynthia A. (W/I(Green)) 19  
Baldwin, Chuck (W/I(Independent)) 210  
Bone, Lawson Mitchell (W/I(Independent)) 10  
Mottus, Kevin (W/I(Independent)) 6  
Nader, Ralph Matt Gonzalez (W/I(Independent)) 189  
Plemons, John Leroy (W/I(Independent)) 0  
Kujawski, "Lou" (W/I(Republican)) 0  
Moore, Brian Stewart A. Alexander (W/I(Socialist)) 2  

Link: http://www.in.gov/apps/sos/election/general/general2008?page=office&countyID=-1&officeID=36&districtID=-1&candidate=


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
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To: cookcounty

that pisses me off to no end

barr never had a chance and yet those who voted for him gave obama those two states

VA is interesting
they have to count tens of thousands of oversea votes from the military, same as here in florida

now if barr wasn’t running in VA, was he????
and those overseas come in then VA could be another state which could turn

how about NC

do they have to county overseas military votes yet as they have the marines down there who would use NC while they are away on duty

SO maybe besides IN, NC and VA could turn over


51 posted on 11/06/2008 4:07:15 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: UncleDick

I am a true conservative and I would have a VERY HARD TIME voting for Ron Paul.


52 posted on 11/06/2008 4:07:26 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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To: frankiep

I agree. Anyone of them would have done better than McCain and a couple would have beaten Obama. Once McCain was nominated, the race was over.


53 posted on 11/06/2008 4:08:34 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: TruthCanHurt

It would just further prove that McCain was not campaigning as a Republican or Indiana would never have been in play.

Of course, $3.7M to $0 in spending tends to make even Red states turn all kinds of shades of blue. McCain had the same brilliant groundgame in Indiana that he did in Colorado, Nevada, Florida, etc. etc. etc. The guy literally thought that by saving ‘Maverick’ that all those ‘moderates and independents’ would just come running out of the woodwork for vote for him.

Please GOD, let this be a cautionary tale so that we never do this again. Let Republicans elect the Republican nominee and let Democrats nominate Democrats. It’s entirely a travesty of political justice to allow democrats to elect BOTH!!!


54 posted on 11/06/2008 4:08:34 PM PST by bpjam (Any people wonder how so many German stood by while Hitler did what he did?)
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To: Clemenza

LOL

I’m suffering a lot since obama maybe won

the fat lady sings etc

now if NC has to count those military votes yet as well as VA
who know

IN has turned

who can do the EV count on that

please come on I know I am clutching at straws here but it keeps me going


55 posted on 11/06/2008 4:09:41 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: TruthCanHurt

where is a site with the state-by-state pop vote counts?

is that site still updated?


56 posted on 11/06/2008 4:09:46 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Clemenza
My parents live in Boca Raton, the buckle of the Bagel Belt...

When I was a kid (in the 50's) we used to vacation in Fort Lauderdale and my Dad retired there in the 80's.His second wife died about 6 months after they arrived so he left.Bagel belt.I've never heard that.Funny...funny!

57 posted on 11/06/2008 4:11:10 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: TruthCanHurt

Not to be a party pooper and I wish it weren’t so, but even if Florida, Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia switched, McCain would still be behind 41 electoral votes.


58 posted on 11/06/2008 4:11:17 PM PST by itsthejourney (mtbopfuyn has risen from the ashes)
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To: bpjam

I agree. McCain should not been running on the Republican ticket. He and Ron Paul should have been on their own libertarian or independent party tickets.

Lets just get one good conservative run next primary.
We can’t have conservatives splitting the votes in primaries allowing an Independent to get the win.


59 posted on 11/06/2008 4:11:17 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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To: itsthejourney

I am not trying to turn the election...

However, a closer vote would bring in more attention to the election fraud that occurred in all of the other key states.

This is very IMPORTANT and needs to be addressed before 2012. Otherwise we are doomed to repeat this mess.


60 posted on 11/06/2008 4:13:00 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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To: itsthejourney

still looks good on the map though

more red the better plus knowing my state against obama would have been good

still it is still a red state no matter how ACORN , snow birds, north easterners , illegals voted


61 posted on 11/06/2008 4:13:44 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc
IN has turned who can do the EV count on that

You forgot about OH (and CO).If McLame won everything Bush won in '04 except OH,Hussein wins.Don't know about CO.

62 posted on 11/06/2008 4:14:11 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: manc

Do you live in the panhandle? If so, that explains it.


63 posted on 11/06/2008 4:14:39 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: manc
McCain conceded.
64 posted on 11/06/2008 4:14:57 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: manc

I’ve read somewhere that a lot of the states do not even bother counting the non-military absentee ballots filled out by John Q Public unless the election is close.

I remember it being one issue being brought up when algorella was whineing about making sure every vote was counted back in 2000.


65 posted on 11/06/2008 4:15:01 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper
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To: aliquando

NO.... California.


66 posted on 11/06/2008 4:15:54 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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To: TruthCanHurt
I agree. McCain should not been running on the Republican ticket. He and Ron Paul should have been on their own libertarian or independent party tickets.

If that had happened Hussein would have carried every single state.....with about 39% of the popular vote.

67 posted on 11/06/2008 4:16:09 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: itsthejourney

What I meant was McCain has 163 now, plus the above 66 would be 41 short of the magic 270.


68 posted on 11/06/2008 4:17:11 PM PST by itsthejourney (mtbopfuyn has risen from the ashes)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

No chance. Sarah would climb up on that table and kick him between the eyes with her stilletoes.


69 posted on 11/06/2008 4:18:26 PM PST by Krodg
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To: aliquando

nope next to jacksonville


70 posted on 11/06/2008 4:20:50 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Disturbin

It is also due to about 20 thousand dead people voting and thousands of felons. When I lived in Florida in 2004, several democratic poll workers were caught voting multiple times in their cars. No doubt that went on this year too. If Barak is so great, why do they need to cheat?


71 posted on 11/06/2008 4:21:20 PM PST by irishfox
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To: trumandogz
McCain conceded.

So did Gore. LOL

72 posted on 11/06/2008 4:23:12 PM PST by Krodg
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To: irishfox

The real question is how rampant was the cheating... Dems knew from the last election what they could get away with... Being registered in multiple states and voting for example.

There were I believe 200000 people registered in GA, FL, and OH simultaneously.


73 posted on 11/06/2008 4:23:12 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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To: TruthCanHurt

I agree with you. The boasting about early voting and absentee ballots were in numbers that could change the results considerably. The results should not be announced until the entire country is finished voting. McCain could not even wait for the polls to close in Alaska before conceding.


74 posted on 11/06/2008 4:23:40 PM PST by All Blue State
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To: 2CAVTrooper

really
sort of not right if it is the case

NC is close so I would expect them to count the votes from the marines

plus I just looked at the NC site and if bob barr wasn’t running MCCain would have got NC

so really NC has not turned blue like the dems like to brag about

Still look at my state as red because of all the ballot questions going conservative

VA is changing due to liberals moving in there plus blacks got out to vote for the non white guy this time around

who are the racists? no we haven’t got past the race issue in this country yet


75 posted on 11/06/2008 4:24:30 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Cinnamontea

YESSS!!!


76 posted on 11/06/2008 4:24:34 PM PST by lucyblue
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To: 2CAVTrooper

really
sort of not right if it is the case

NC is close so I would expect them to count the votes from the marines

plus I just looked at the NC site and if bob barr wasn’t running MCCain would have got NC

so really NC has not turned blue like the dems like to brag about

Still look at my state as red because of all the ballot questions going conservative

VA is changing due to liberals moving in there plus blacks got out to vote for the non white guy this time around

who are the racists? no we haven’t got past the race issue in this country yet

IN has not turned blue and MT went for obama but it became more republican locally
strange

was there fraud there?

OH I can bet fraud was going on quite a bit with the help of Bruner
Pa or I should say Philly must have done a couple of hundred thousand votes from the dead and made up again

so they never got their big mandate as they like to brag about


77 posted on 11/06/2008 4:27:16 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: TruthCanHurt

sweetness... take that Obama! Now lets get after Virginia, Ohio, Florida, Colorado and lets take back this country!


78 posted on 11/06/2008 4:27:44 PM PST by conservative_guyz
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To: manc

Maybe birds of a feather tend to flock together? I remember a quote after the 04 election from someone living on NYC’s upper east side who was incredulous that Bush could have won because everybody she knew voted for Kerry.


79 posted on 11/06/2008 4:27:52 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: syriacus

Da*n right it makes a difference; to me anyway. I gotta tell you I was mightily embarrased that my state would have voted for Zero. At least I can tell my friends over in Ohio that we Hoosiers know a Marxist when we see one.

By the way I did go the Ind. Sec. State website just before posting this and the original poster had it right. These appear to be good numbers.


80 posted on 11/06/2008 4:27:59 PM PST by technically right
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To: UncleDick
Partisanship has trumped ideology on the Right since Goldwater lost. Pre-neocon conservatism will gain no traction in the GOP until Obama decides that Nation Building, spreading of democracy to the turd-world (at taxpayer expense), and general military adventurism are "progressive" goals - in part because they grow the government. Likewise for government intrusion in the form of the Patriot Act.

And even then, when we are treated to the Medicare-expanding, big-brothering, nation-building, deficit-spending Hussein W. Obama, the collective sanity in the GOP will be fleeting - once Republicans regain power (on a tidal wave of small-government conservatism that carried Bush to power - ughh), they will squander their mandate by expanding government just like Bush. Why? Because we will again actually be led by unprincipled, but "electable", Republican moderates who mouth the right platitudes but who will act to gain the sympathies only of the left and the media (in the rare instances there is a difference). You will be admonished again to shut up and send money, and take one for "the team". Best case scenario is that your efforts are rewarded by some rino neocon ***hole like Bush being elected.

81 posted on 11/06/2008 4:28:04 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: manc

Don’t assume that Barr votes would go to McCAin if Barr was not running... Many, if not all of those votes would have sat out the presidential vote as they would not support McCain. Period. Probably close to 70% of Barr’s support would not go to McCain.


82 posted on 11/06/2008 4:29:20 PM PST by conservative_guyz
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To: All Blue State

I would not concede until every military and overseas vote had been counted

Infact I would demand that our military votes be counted not just in tight election

as those in VA have not been counted yet and maybe those in NC and FL


83 posted on 11/06/2008 4:30:23 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: GQuagmire
Not to be a jerk, but it doesn’t matter

As a resident of Indiana, it matters to me. At least, me and my fellow Hoosiers don't have to share in the shame of being a blue state.

84 posted on 11/06/2008 4:31:27 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: aliquando

well she would say that wouldn’t she

she in NY I am in FL a supposed swing state

I know what I see and know what I hear from going around this state


85 posted on 11/06/2008 4:32:20 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Truth and accuracy always matter.


86 posted on 11/06/2008 4:33:48 PM PST by dools007
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To: TruthCanHurt

very true

here in FL the snow birds vote in their old state and then move down here in time for thanksgiving for the warm weather and vote again
some of them were caught last year for it
then add in the illegals voting
then add in the ACORN vote as many times as you can during early voting then it would swing this state much more

then add in the rich northerners who have property down here for get aways or rentals who use their address here to vote in this state they do not live

early voting should be done away with IMHO
it makes it easier for cheating


87 posted on 11/06/2008 4:35:38 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: UncleDick

“Most Republicans agree with you, which is why they went down hard on Tuesday. If the Republicans want to be relevant again, they need to offer a choice (Paul) not an echo (McCain).”

So are you saying that if we nominated a kook (paul) who’s nuttier than a jar of chunky peanut butter that we would have won on Tuesday?

Paul is a joke.

He’s all for term limits unless they apply to him.

He’s for sticking millions worth of earmarks for the Trans Texas Highway AKA NAFTA Super Highway into the budget so then he can vote against it and still get his money.

He’s a two faced lying fraud who is a disgrace to the very party he claims to be a member of.


88 posted on 11/06/2008 4:36:08 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper
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To: manc
Florida is a difference of 235000 votes without the provisional, military, or absentee counts included.

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/enight.asp

89 posted on 11/06/2008 4:38:04 PM PST by All Blue State
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To: TruthCanHurt

should this not be on breaking news??????????????

as the media reported this yet

I wouldn’t know as I am in black out mode to them


90 posted on 11/06/2008 4:38:12 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

If these close states had gone to the Marxist Onada, the dems would have taken the results to court. So what does our erstwhile former warrier do—he just walks away. It truly is breathtaking.


91 posted on 11/06/2008 4:38:14 PM PST by dools007
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To: McGruff
If the RNC doesn't change the way our nominee is chosen they are doomed to repeat their mistakes.

I don't think we can afford to wait for the RNC to change the process on their own, they likely won't. How can we convince them to change the process? We need to take back the Republican party and we will have to start with making sure RINOs don't get nominated to begin with in order to do that.

92 posted on 11/06/2008 4:38:23 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

So did it truly switch or not? I’m a native Hoosier myself and feel as you do about the shame of Indiana turning blue.


93 posted on 11/06/2008 4:38:23 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: McGruff

I voted for Paul in the primaries but, like everyone else who is sensible, realized that in the general election you close ranks behind the person who was nominated and vote accordingly.


94 posted on 11/06/2008 4:38:40 PM PST by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Cinnamontea
“Does anyone else want to slap those who voted for Bob Barr?”

Were not talking Ross Perot here. Bar supporters have been a pain in the A## calling in to talk radio, and high-jacking conversations on forums like FR, but their overall numbers were insignificant. Barr received 487,101 votes or 0.4% of the vote. It would not have done any good if McCain could have gotten all of Barr's votes.

95 posted on 11/06/2008 4:39:04 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: All Blue State

thanks for that
any idea on if NC has voted their absentee and military ballot yet as it is really close there too

how many did VA go down by , off the top of my head wasn’t it 150,000 or 200,00 which if so then those tens of thousands still couldn’t turn VA

I know obama has won and I know we would still need OH,CO but it does make a difference to close the winning margin on obama so as to reduce their landslide B/S they are doing

OH I am sure has a couple of a hundred thousand illegal votes too

for anyone in the know

is there no way for the GOP to look at these votes and see how many were illegal?


96 posted on 11/06/2008 4:41:57 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

Montana went to McCain.

http://sos.mt.gov/ELB/elections/2008/general/StatewideRaces/President/index.asp


97 posted on 11/06/2008 4:42:55 PM PST by All Blue State
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To: dools007

agreed
I as amazed that he gave up so quick maybe that why Palin wasn’t happy plus not winning
she’s a fighter which is one of the reason I love the woman

He should have not gave anything away until those military votes are counted in VA,FL,NC and then appealed the decision in OH for illegal votes of which I am sure there are loads


98 posted on 11/06/2008 4:44:31 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127431/posts

There are your new Reagans.


99 posted on 11/06/2008 4:46:35 PM PST by merry10
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To: Shethink13

I’m a Hoosier now, too.

It was bad enough that my beloved state of OHio, where I was born and raised, turned blue and went to the dark side...but now - living in Indiana for the past 16 years...I can’t fathom it turning blue, too!!

SheThink13 - I think I remember you from the March for Justice ten years ago....if I remember correctly, you were the “nice lady”....according to my then young sons, who brought candy to them for Halloween.


100 posted on 11/06/2008 4:47:25 PM PST by MasonGal
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