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Billy Graham Won't Advise Obama Because of Strong Pro-Abortion Position
Life News.com ^ | 11/7/08 | Steve Ertelt

Posted on 11/07/2008 12:19:28 PM PST by lewisglad

Billy Graham Won't Advise Obama Because of His Strong Pro-Abortion Position

by Steven Ertelt LifeNews.com Editor November 7, 2008

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Respected Christian preacher Billy Graham has been an advisor and spiritual helper to presidents dating back to President Eisenhower.

But that relationship with presidents will now come to an end because incoming president Barack Obama takes such a profoundly pro-abortion position.

To be sure, Graham's health is playing a part in the decision his son Franklin Graham told the Associated Press.

"My father feels like his time and day for that is over," Franklin Graham said. "But he would certainly like to meet (Obama) and pray with him."

But Franklin expressed concerns about Obama's abortion position -- something he mentioned to the senator during the campaign as a stumbling block -- and indicated that as the main reason.

He told AP the Bible is clear in its teaching that human life deserves respect and protection even before birth.

"President-elect Obama has heard our position," Franklin Graham told the news service. "And I told him that this was very difficult for us and hard for us. It's a moral issue that we just can't back down on."

"But he's our president-elect, and those positions that he holds that are contrary to Biblical teaching, I hope that God will change his heart," Graham added.

Obama's position in favor of unlimited abortions throughout pregnancy for any reason was a key issue for pro-life voters during the campaign.

Obama also came under fire for supporting the so-called Freedom of Choice Act, a Congressional bill that would make unlimited abortions under Roe v. Wade the national law and overturn the abortion reduction laws of all 50 states.

The senator also drew condemnation for his votes in the Illinois state legislature against a bill that would have made sure newborns who survive failed abortions receive appropriate medical care.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: abortion; bho2008; bible; billygraham; christians; digg; foca; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; pastors; proaborts
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To: Blogger
Weren’t the Clintons pro-partial birth abortion? I think this is more Franklin talking than Billy.

Yes they were.

However, people can change and see the light. Maybe it's Franklin or maybe it's Divine grace but Billy could have had an awakening. Who knows how God works in the heart of a man?

51 posted on 11/07/2008 1:05:43 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: lewisglad

What a Great Man how many men have had that much access to so many presidents?


52 posted on 11/07/2008 1:08:15 PM PST by Rightly Biased (McCain is the reason Sarah Lost <><)
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To: latina4dubya
yes--the Clintons are pro-partial birth abortion... and Billy Graham thinks very highly of Bill Clinton... i never understood that...

He also absolved Clinton of the adulterous behavior, "It isn't his fault, women throw themselves at him," and other rot. I didn't understand it then myself. So then what is the difference here, why was he okay with Clinton's pro-death stance?

53 posted on 11/07/2008 1:08:48 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: Always Right; lewisglad
killing live babies crosses everyone’s line.

Apparently not, he won with the help of a lot of people who claim they are Christians.

54 posted on 11/07/2008 1:10:52 PM PST by wmfights (Elections have Consequences!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Mr. Graham should have thought of this dilemma long ago when he decided to become a Democrat. But, wait, he’ll now likely part ways with Obama on adding homosexuality to the school curriculum, and on redistribution of wealth, and on radical terrorists being on Obama’s staff.

Now why exactly did this guy join the Democrats?


55 posted on 11/07/2008 1:14:39 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Rightly Biased
For a preacher with no church, and who spent his life preaching to football stadiums full of people he never saw again, the First Families gave Graham the rare chance to be a White House family pastor.

He gave them a sanctuary; they gave him a congregation. He carried the families through times of loss--literal and political; several wanted him to be with them during their last nights in the White House.

Richard Nixon collapsed in Graham's arms at his mother's funeral in 1967. Bill Clinton took him to sit at the bedside of a dying friend in 1989. Graham was the first person outside the family whom Nancy Reagan called when her husband died in 2004.

Last month, Johnson's daughters Lynda and Luci reached out to him as their mother was dying. Two days before she passed away, he called and talked to them, and since Lady Bird was awake and alert, they put the phone to her ear.

The former First Lady and the former White House pastor chatted some and then shared a prayer together.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1651625-1,00.html

56 posted on 11/07/2008 1:16:20 PM PST by lewisglad
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To: MozarkDawg

Yes he did-and I will freely admit I lost a LOT of respect for him when he embraced Anklepants like he did...

...and now that I see he has always been and is STILL a registered member of the party of death, I have none at all.


57 posted on 11/07/2008 1:17:45 PM PST by snuffy smiff (the most pathetic thing about libs is not that they lie-but that they lie unto themselves)
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To: lewisglad

Thank you for the pictures. I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior after listening to Billy Graham in a televised broadcast. That was in 1973. The picture of Billy with Ronald Reagan made me cry...I’ve missed Ronald Reagan so much this week—the sincere regard that he had for Billy Graham is obvious in this photo. The look on his face is how I like to remember him. It reminded me that Ronald Reagan was EVERYTHING good and kind and honest and strong that the current President elect is not...God forgive this nation for they know not what they have done. I’m just so sad for this Country...


58 posted on 11/07/2008 1:17:59 PM PST by TerrisFriend ("I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me!" God Bless the U.S.A.!)
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To: Christian4Bush

You’re right. I couldn’t remember the exact phrase.

Don’t know how we’ll put up with this clown for 4 years. Wouldn’t be surprised if his own party turns on him.


59 posted on 11/07/2008 1:21:37 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: DrewsDad

Rev Wright...


60 posted on 11/07/2008 1:21:52 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Thank you Billy Graham for standing up for principal!! That is a hard thing for many star crossed celeb-tards, some “ministers” included, to do these day.

Watch how the Dems turn on him.....


61 posted on 11/07/2008 1:22:14 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: TerrisFriend
That was my favorite picture as well. Look at the faces of Nancy & RR, its obvious how fond they were of him.


62 posted on 11/07/2008 1:24:19 PM PST by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

I like that pic. The good old days. My dad use to say that. Im 51 and know what he meant now. It gets worse by the day, Im looking for Christs return, the world get more screwed up by the second.


63 posted on 11/07/2008 1:27:54 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: lewisglad

Praise God for a man of the Word!


64 posted on 11/07/2008 1:30:51 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Nightshift

gnip....


65 posted on 11/07/2008 1:31:10 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Always Right

McCain’s forte is letting Democrats off the hook. It’s been his bread and butter tactic back as far as the eye can see.


66 posted on 11/07/2008 1:31:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Okay lefties... the problem with wanting something, is that you sometimes get it. Good luck now!)
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To: lewisglad

Good.

you have to stand for something


67 posted on 11/07/2008 1:38:46 PM PST by wardaddy (I'm looking for a new Danelaw to move my family to...)
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To: PleaseNoMore
Pray for what, exactly?
I'd pray for his conversion, pray for him to see the light.
I'd pray for the presidency itself, that the Marxist doesn't’ destroy it.
But I won't pray for his success if it follows the wrong road, which is the literal translation of the Sermon on the Mount phrase “blessed are,” Obammie the Commie alluded to during his campaign.

I don't want “success” if it involves and affront to God. But I will pray for God to change Obama.

68 posted on 11/07/2008 1:40:59 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: lewisglad

I believe this is a mistake.

Obama needs to hear the actual gospel, not the twisted one he heard from Wright.


69 posted on 11/07/2008 1:43:08 PM PST by Brookhaven (.)
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To: lewisglad

Good for Rev. Graham! God bless him!
Rev. Graham’s wife was my grandmother’s 5th cousin. So this makes me very happy.


70 posted on 11/07/2008 1:44:39 PM PST by Fudd Fan (The ballot box is gone and the soap box is next. It's midnight in America.)
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To: Blogger

I thought the same thing. Is Obama really that different from Clinton on this issue?


71 posted on 11/07/2008 1:45:27 PM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: DrewsDad

“If Obama is serious about having a diverse cabinet, won’t he have to get a strong evangelical/born-again Christian on the team?”

Jimmy Carter claims to be a strong evangelical/born-again Christian, but he left his pro-life Southern Baptist church and joined the pro-choice Methodist church over abortion.


72 posted on 11/07/2008 1:45:45 PM PST by Brookhaven (.)
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DIGG Billy Graham won't Advise baby killer Obama

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Any Christian who voted for this baby killer needs to question if they are, in deed, a Christian!

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73 posted on 11/07/2008 1:46:36 PM PST by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: Brookhaven

Perhaps Rev. Graham thought that Obama was not receptive to salvation at this time, and he would always be there to talk with him if need be.


74 posted on 11/07/2008 1:52:54 PM PST by lewisglad
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Not even Bill and Hillary supported infanticide.
Heck - not even the good folks at NARAL supported infanticide.

As far as I can tell, Obama is the most extreme position in the nation on this issue.
I don’t think you can get more extreme than Obama unless your name is Peter Singer.


75 posted on 11/07/2008 1:53:05 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: lewisglad

Wow! I can’t believe that old apostate is taking a stand. It has to be the first time in about 1 million years.


76 posted on 11/07/2008 1:55:25 PM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: lewisglad

I challenged a person who claims to be a strong Christian, always talking about the Bible, says he hates abortion...but is voting for Hussein.

Makes me nauseous. (spelling?)


77 posted on 11/07/2008 2:13:39 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: lewisglad

Pastor John MacArthur doesn’t think so highly of Billy Graham, I respect Pastor John MacArthur’s opinion as a Spiritual Leader.


78 posted on 11/07/2008 2:14:18 PM PST by AmericanSamurai
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To: lewisglad

Graham is stepping aside here because of failing health, not because of Obambi’s abortion position. He still did serve in his traditional role to Clinton, after all.

Let’s not make something out of nothing here, as his son has said;

“My father feels like his time and day for that is over,” Franklin Graham said. “But he would certainly like to meet (Obama) and pray with him.”


79 posted on 11/07/2008 2:14:20 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: lewisglad

Amazing.

It says something about Obama that Billy Graham would sit down and fellowship with Gerald Ford and Bill Clinton (and with Dick Nixon after we knew he was a crook) but not him.


80 posted on 11/07/2008 2:18:45 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (It's time to turn about, like Sheridan at Cedar Creek. Let's punch them out of their boots!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Or LBJ for that matter, who was one of the foul men ever to occupy the White House. (and that is putting it politely as possible)


81 posted on 11/07/2008 2:21:30 PM PST by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
"The Chicken's have come home to roost"....

Hmmm...

Maybe he can get that Rev. that was your mentor in IL Comrade Zero....

Thank you Billy Graham.

82 posted on 11/07/2008 2:24:06 PM PST by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: Dutchboy88
Now why exactly did this guy join the Democrats?

I'm certain that he joined long before they became the world's biggest freak show.

83 posted on 11/07/2008 2:24:19 PM PST by Marathoner (I'm done with the GOP if they throw Sarah under the bus)
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To: lewisglad

God bless you, Rev. Graham.


84 posted on 11/07/2008 2:24:41 PM PST by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: lewisglad

How long until Obama flips off Billy Graham and jokes about his ill health?


85 posted on 11/07/2008 2:25:41 PM PST by kenth (It's all about the zero.)
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To: MrLee
Wasn’t Franklin persona non grata at the Bush White House because he told Bush the TRUTH about Islam?

Care to share?

86 posted on 11/07/2008 2:25:49 PM PST by Krodg
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To: DBCJR

I was thinking of Isiah who used to annoint the kings of Old Israel and even the King of Assyria, it seems odd that Graham won’t be on the scene to do the same for Obama.

Well, that is change, but not for the better, Obama has set his heart to allowing a slaughter that would make even the Molech worshipers pale..


87 posted on 11/07/2008 2:32:16 PM PST by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: lewisglad

Good for Graham.


88 posted on 11/07/2008 2:33:52 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: lewisglad

Losing that election really shook my faith. Why would God let this happen ?

doubts.


89 posted on 11/07/2008 2:34:47 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Our party is at war. and those who do not support Palin will be backed into the ocean.)
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To: Marathoner
I'm certain that he joined long before they became the world's biggest freak show.

Exactly the old DEM Party used to be fairly Conservative. BTW another man who changed the face of the nation was a preacher and was also a DEM. Like him or hate him Jerry Falwell a DEM helped put Reagan in the White House and helped at the time turn a nation back on the right course. As for Graham associating with the presidents even the not so moral ones? It is the sick in need of the physician say's GOD's Word.

Graham also had political views on China I did not share but can understand why. Billy's wife's parents were Missionaries in China IIRC and Franklin's Mentor was Bob Pierce a man whom too many times to count went into Communist China after the purge for the Gospel sake.

Overall Billy Graham has been a great man doing GOD's work. Why Graham did some things we don't understand may stay between Himself and GOD as he served the Gospel and answered to The Lord not man.

90 posted on 11/07/2008 2:36:53 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: Marathoner

Sorry. He could have long ago denounced the unbiblical positions, but he chose to grandstand with the other charlatans. His love of the spotlight and embrace of Bill and Hillary tells you everything about this man’s flawed theology.


91 posted on 11/07/2008 2:39:56 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Losing that election really shook my faith. Why would God let this happen ? doubts.

Because the nation as a whole turned it's back on him. This must be kept separate though with mans one on one with HIM. When nations fall away they come under judgement. GOD gives nations warnings then GOD judges. This does not mean His chosen or elect are abandoned as individuals.

92 posted on 11/07/2008 2:43:21 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: Krodg

Seems I remember a short time after 9-11 that Franklin Graham went to see Bush and pretty much told him the truth about Islam. After that, he was never invited back again.


93 posted on 11/07/2008 2:47:30 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
God Bless Billy Graham for his courageous stand.

Second that.

94 posted on 11/07/2008 2:50:09 PM PST by Mojave (http://www.americanbacklash.com/)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Very good question. I offer three possible answers.

1. Much of what you thought was the gospel, was actually a concocted story made by men. You have been led to believe that if you pray earnestly for something, God, like Santa, will give it to you because he wants you to be happy. The real gospel promises suffering during our brief wait here. See Tyndale, Hus, etc.

2. God is pouring out judgment upon the US and the world and we refuse to notice. This is not the “end times” stuff (left behind, etc.), but real wrath noted in the Scriptures. We will get caught in the gears right along with the unbelievers. We just will not face condemnation, if we are among those He has decided to rescue. Read Isaiah through very slowly and listen to the “chosen people’s” anguish over the discipline. Ours could be temporary or long term. No human knows.

3. There is no God.


95 posted on 11/07/2008 2:51:41 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: lewisglad
"President-elect Obama has heard our position," Franklin Graham told the news service. "And I told him that this was very difficult for us and hard for us. It's a moral issue that we just can't back down on."

Senator "Coke-head" Obama is in favor of infanticide. I would have been very disappointed if Billy Graham would serve as an advisor to anyone in favor of infanticide, and I am glad that Billy Graham made the decision that he did.

96 posted on 11/07/2008 3:01:16 PM PST by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

In Reverend Wright’s words: G** D*** Anything that GOD CREATES! and Obie adored him as his Mentor for TWENTY YEARS!

May GOD BLESS THE GRAHAMS FOR ALL THEY ARE!


97 posted on 11/07/2008 3:16:41 PM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: Always Right

McLame was terrified of crossing THE MESSIAH!!!

WHY? WHY? WHY?


98 posted on 11/07/2008 3:18:56 PM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: lewisglad

Obama HUSSEIN DOESN’T WANT NOR APPROVE OF THE GRAHAMS!!! CAUSE HE AIN’T NO CHRISTIAN!!!
CHRISTIANS ARE THE INFIDELS! TO BE DISPOSED OF BY JIHAD!


99 posted on 11/07/2008 3:22:22 PM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: wagglebee; WKB; MHGinTN; Arthur Wildfire! March

ping


100 posted on 11/07/2008 3:25:43 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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