Skip to comments.Gun sales up following Obama's election
Posted on 11/08/2008 12:05:17 AM PST by Marie
BAY COUNTY -- The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says gun sales have tripled since the election of Barack Obama because people fear Obama will tighten gun restrictions. Michigan gun shop owner Glenn Duncan says he's seen a sales spike too, "in the last two weeks, the owner of Duncan's Outdoor Shop in Bay City says sales have doubled. They're (buyers) worried if they don't buy them not they won't be able to get them."
Senator Barack Obama does support a ban on carrying concealed weapons and a ban on assault weapons. Duncan tells NBC25 that scares hunters "that's what deer hunters use that's what duck hunters use and so it kind of scares a lot of people right now." NBC25 caught up with Doug Krentz, he's a verteran who stand firm on his right to bear arms, "I'm not going to give up my guns for anybody. I took an oath in 1965 to defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic."
Duncan tells NBC25 that this scares hunters. "That's what deer hunters use. That's what duck hunters use and so it kind of scares a lot of people right now." NBC25 caught up with Doug Krentz, veteran who stands firm on his right to bear arms, says, "I'm not going to give up my guns for anybody. I took an oath in 1965 to defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic."
From her bio: Prior to TV6, Elizabeth worked as a reporter/producer for News Central 34, a student produced newscast at Central Michigan University. She also took on internships at WIFR in Rockford, Illinois and WJRT in Flint.
Another article: Flint cheers for Sen. Barack Obama
Sen. Barack Obama fans celebrated at the Local UAW Hall 599 in Flint when Obama was announced as the 44th President of the United States. Hundreds gathered at the UAW hall on Leith street for a Democratic watch party. People cheered as they watched the election result come across the big screen.
With all that education one would think that the woman could edit a simple paragraph. Perhaps she just really sucks.
And can someone please explain to me what exactly is an "assault weapon"?? Heck, I can turn a butter knife into an "assault weapon".
Basically, it's a gun that *looks* scary.
*That* is what all the hype is about?? They're alright with a .30-30, but are fired up about .223 semi-automatic that looks like it could be an automatic weapon?
What in the *hell*?
I'd never bothered to look it up before and just assumed they were talking about something like an M-16.
What rational do they have to targeting *this* particular issue? Is it the amount of ammo the gun holds?
A fist is an assault weapon. I guess we will have to turn our hands in to the authorities.
Under the obama administration harsh words will be considered an assault weapon.
They have no rationale, other than to use it as a stepping stone to total gun confiscation and banning.
First they go after the non-sporting-looking weapons, like the semi-auto ARs and AKs by calling them “assault rifles”. Then they go after the “high powered sniper rifles” aka your big game or long range hunting rifle. Then they froth some more and take the remaining hunting rifles, also as “sniper weapons”.
Pretty soon, no more guns.
Then I am already guilty.
If you aren't a member, the telephone number to call to join is 1-877-NRA-2000.
If the NRA doesn't suit you, and many people have legitimate complaints about its compromising ways, then there are several other alternatives:
And there are others: the Second Amendment Sisters, and the National Association for Gun Rights (I don't know much about them, but their website looks accurate to me with regard to the Heller decision).
It's critical that we band together now.
They are not familiar with the rural world or with the concept of responsible gun owners. They know murders and drive-bys.
So it will not be surprising when the Obama administration views us and our rights in those terms. BLOAT if you can.
“They’re alright with a .30-30...”
They won’t be forever, but they have to do it piecemeal.
“First they came for the assault rifles, but because I was a hunter and not a rightwing militia nut...”
Two things, having in particular to do with rifles and handguns. First of all, the left is afraid of citizens owning guns - especially rifles - that would be the most useful during a revolution. If the radical left takes over the government, they don't want citizens, armed with effective rifles, fighting the secret police or whatever. They want isolated, unarmed subjects who can be easily rounded up to the reeducation camps. The Founding Fathers did not know about reeducation camps, but they did understand tyrants. That is why they envisioned a citizenry owning the same type of military small arms that the army has.
Secondly, the left supports violent criminals because violent crime destabilizes society and a destabilized society is easier for Marxists to try and take over. So the left does not want you to own a handgun to protect yourself even in your own home. Also, the liberals think that the safety of a criminal is more important than your property rights, so they think it is wrong for you to use force against someone stealing your property.
A lot of the gun control proposals sound very technical - all about whether a rifle has a bayonet lug or not, whether a handgun can hold more than 10 rounds, etc. Don't get distracted by those little details. The big picture is, the left wants citizens to be disarmed and helpless against tyrants and common criminals.
My disappointment in the result of the election is great. That disappointment is aimed at the American people. Those who were able to set aside and dismiss President-elect Barack Obama’s associations with shadowy people and organizations. Those who chose to elect as president a man with such a short resume. Those who voted for him out of knee-jerk reaction to President George W. Bush and the Republicans.
How many know that the Congress has been controlled for the last two years by the Democrats? How many know that the sub-prime mortgage crisis and Wall Street melt down has its roots in Democratic programs signed by President Bill Clinton? More than 63 million voters had the wool pulled over their eyes. The Brooklyn Bridge has finally sold. Change was wanted so badly that a man has been elected that we know nothing about, to be president! Our enemies are dancing in the streets.
At least we here Free Republic know a snake oil salesman when we see one. Remember the story of the Pied Piper? Obama is playing the flute.
I thought Joe the Plumber would make a difference. It turned out that the election was swayed by Joe the Gullible.
America, what have we done?
Don’t just buy weapons and ammunition, buy high capacity magazines?
An ‘assault weapon’ is whatever is legally defined as illegal. That’s how it has worked.
So yes, anything can be called an ‘illegal assault weapon’. Rocks, 11 round mags, anything defined in the bill as an ‘assault weapon’ is illegal contraband.
It’s really that bad. And yes, I can imagine a national ban chicago-style on concealed carry. The democrats will not give a flying rats a$$ about rights.
Ancient history, but 17 round magazines that cost $12 in 1992 were going for $120 in 2002.
And that’s with a sunset possibility. Glock magazines are in high demand, and the dirty secret is they are prone to wear out faster than about any other gun part from any supplier.
The mag catch area starts to get iffy after a few hundred inserts, you’ll see the wear. Eventually they can start falling out during firing if old and worn.
Metal mags last as long as they don’t rust though. But like I said, within 8 years Glock mags went up 10x value, and I paid it too. They get horded and they wear out, insane stuff for plastic junk parts really that cost probably a buck to make.
I'll bet you couldn't imagine a ban on political speech within a certain period of time before an election, the sentences of juvenile murderers being overturned because laws in other countries don't permit such sentences, and companies being owned by the feds, either. If we've learned anything, it's that we can no longer safely assume that it can't happen.
In particular with guns, I think you're going to see one of the attacks being the notion that only those in a well regulated militia are allowed to own guns. As you know, the gun grabbers claim this means something like the National Guard. Now, on July 2 of this year in Colorado Springs, Chairman Hussein told us of the plan he has for his own well regulated militia:
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."You don't have to go very far to see Congress passing a law defining Obama's civilian national security force as the well regulated militia of the 2nd Amendment.
So just keep mind that while you can't imagine it, the RATS are imagining it and they have the means, for now, to push a lot of it through.
I took that same oath in 1970. I take it very seriously. The fact I am no longer in uniform does not change my allegiance to the Constitution.
“And can someone please explain to me what exactly is an ‘assault weapon’??”
An “assault weapon” to a liberal, who is inherently ignorant or anything relating to firearms, is any firearm that “looks scary.”
In reality, an assault weapon is a select-fire weapon that has the ability to fire both automatic and semi-automatic rounds, the change being accomplished by the flipping of a switch or toggle.
An “assault weapon” is whatever the Democrats say it is. The new assault weapon ban that the Dems tried to introduce during the Bush years uncluded nearly every semi-auto that had a detachable magazine including M-1 carbine, Mini 14, M-1A and many others. Expect more of this in years to come. I put a muzzle brake on my MIni 14 before the first ban; it would have made it an illegal firearm if done during the ban years. I need to figure out how to ensure that I can prove that it was added before any new laws are enacted.
“First of all, the left is afraid of citizens owning guns - especially rifles - that would be the most useful during a revolution. If the radical left takes over the government, they don’t want citizens, armed with effective rifles, fighting the secret police or whatever. They want isolated, unarmed subjects who can be easily rounded up to the reeducation camps. The Founding Fathers did not know about reeducation camps, but they did understand tyrants. That is why they envisioned a citizenry owning the same type of military small arms that the army has. Also, the liberals think that the safety of a criminal is more important than your property rights, so they think it is wrong for you to use force against someone stealing your property. The big picture is, the left wants citizens to be disarmed and helpless against tyrants and common criminals.”
You’ve put it succinctly in a nutshell. MOLON LABE!
I have just discovered, in a roundabout way, that the Second Amendment was really only intended for trap shooting. Yes, the Founders meant that the only right protected was for the busting of clay plates with single-shot fowling pieces on a Sunday afternoon, and then only under the careful supervision of our Masters. That was the only right intended. The “gun nuts” have to get with the program, and stop this fiction that the Second Amendment was intended for the people as a last-resort against tyranny. /s
Instead of yes we can it should be no we won't. Stand up and reject the bastards.
It won't be a court battle.
Exactly. Welcome to the light.
“Assault weapons”, as defined in the Clinton AW ban, are semiautomatics that have a few scary-looking features - features which are downright harmless (and provide only a discernible advantage in the depths of full-blown warfare). The great joke of the AWB was that you could still buy exactly the same gun, just without the largely pointless flash suppressor.
You’re right. It wasn’t about M16s or machineguns, as those have been strictly regulated since 1934, and any made after 1986 are outright prohibited.
There was a limit on magazine size: 10 rounds max, when the norm was 12, 15, 17, 20, 30 or more for various guns. While that was certainly an annoyance for guns designed to hold/use more, a curious result was the explosion of the “subcompact handgun” and “big bore handgun” markets: if you can’t have over 10 rounds, then either make the gun really small (subcompact 9mm Glock 26) or really powerful (full-size .45ACP M1911).
The only “guns” actually banned in the last “assault weapon ban” were extremely large handguns which are little more than novelties.
So yes, an “assault weapon” is basically a gun that looks scary. “Looks” is the important part.
Now, with all that background...
Obama intends to restore the ban and make it permanent. This time, it won’t be just about looks. Expect a ban on any semi-automatic that uses detachable magazines.
...thing is, it wasn’t, and won’t be, about machineguns. They’re already effectively banned completely (save for a very few, very old, very very overpriced ones).
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