Posted on 11/08/2008 11:46:57 PM PST by 444Flyer
A man wearing a McCain-Palin T-shirt during a Philadelphia celebration on election night was arrested, cuffed and stuffed into a police cruiser, and supporters said it was for no more than wearing the endorsement of the GOP nominees for president and vice-president. Although the man protested that he didn't want to cause any trouble, officers manhandled and arrested him, the video posted on YouTube shows.
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Nice to know the Philly cops arein The Obama’s pocket.
I wonder what the military thinks?
I enjoyed the neanderthals cheering obama as they cuffed the guy.
“I enjoyed the neanderthals cheering obama as they cuffed the guy.”
They are bringing hope and change and ending war, planting gardens, holding hands and singing happy songs only—dontchaknow-—NOT.
wow. the cheering tells it all.
This man had every right to wear that shirt and do what he did. What he did was also very dangerous but if this is a sign of things to come under Obomba, we are in for a very rough time.
Nice. The chanting sounded like something out of kenya or rawanda. I can understand the police wanting to get the guy out of there before a riot started. It sure as hell ain’t right though.
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I hope most American soldiers remember that when and if Obama decides to suspend elections in his first or second term.
I’m sure they will.
At first, I thought the worst about this, but the way he stutters instead of actually finishing the words “Peaceful Protest,” The plastic sword, and lifting his arm right before the cop pulls his shirt, means he was not in the right. And he was dumb for not realizing he was in danger, going in the bookstore and turning his shirt inside out.
I downloaded this and watched it in slo-mo. Really studied this incident. My conclusion: This might be a Alex Jones inspired setup. There is not enough info, putting words on the screen to try to shape the viewers opinions invalidates it. The news media might have picked it up if it didn’t have the 911-inside job crap and the devil picture at the front.
as someone said in a previous thread this is akin to going into a biker bar and yelling “Harley riders are wimps.”
Alex Jones is possibly a CIA plant to discredit people who might want to believe some of his stuff. Classic disinformation and psychological warfare.
I gotta side with the cops on this. It’s not right, but the cops may have saved his life as well as a few others.
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they are men....they will follow whatever orders that be.....
be very very afraid.
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bending over backwards to explain the unexplainable....what would have happened if this was a bama person at a McCain rally?....troops would be called in to protect the one lone protester.......
The toy sword is odd. But other than standing out in this crowd, why was this guy arrested?
He was arrested for disobeying a police officer. Theyasked him to move along, and he said, saying he has a 1st Amendment right to free speech.
I’ve always been one to question the legality of having to “obey” a police officer, especially when I’m not violating any laws. I still question it.
In this particular instance, the police had a good reason to tell him to leave, to avoid a physical disturbance and incite the crowd to violence.
But, at the end of their discussion, he said, and he raised his hand to point to it, that his car was the other way. That’s when the little cop rushed him and grabbed his shirt.
This is a prime example of why community policing tactics should be taught to our police officers, this whole thing could have been avoided with just a little bit of diplomacy and finesse.
But, don’t get me started...LOL
I saw him being detained. I didn’t hear him being told that he was under arrest. It would be interesting to see the police report.
Under “Dear Leader” we can expect to see several more “Waco” scenarios play out as dissenters will be arrested and those who resist will be taken by force.
It's been over 40 years, but I seem to remember also swearing that any orders I followed had to be lawful orders, to protect said Constitution.
Not the President; not "the nation"; not "the people": the Constitution.
Didn't get a chance to do much defending back then; might be necessary in the not to distant future, though.
What were those people chanting after they pulled him away from the crowd but before they walked him to the police car? I think it was ‘no more...something” I couldn’t understand it.
The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:
“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)
During the Revolutionary War, the Continental Congress established different oaths for the enlisted men and officers of the Continental Army:
Enlisted: The first oath, voted on 14 June 1775 as part of the act creating the Continental Army, read: “I _____ have, this day, voluntarily enlisted myself, as a soldier, in the American continental army, for one year, unless sooner discharged: And I do bind myself to conform, in all instances, to such rules and regulations, as are, or shall be, established for the government of the said Army.” The original wording was effectively replaced by Section 3, Article 1, of the Articles of War approved by Congress on 20 September 1776, which specified that the oath of enlistment read: “I _____ swear (or affirm as the case may be) to be trued to the United States of America, and to serve them honestly and faithfully against all their enemies opposers whatsoever; and to observe and obey the orders of the Continental Congress, and the orders of the Generals and officers set over me by them.”
Officers: Continental Congress passed two versions of this oath of office, applied to military and civilian national officers. The first, on 21 October 1776, read: “I _____, do acknowledge the Thirteen United States of America, namely, New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, to be free, independent, and sovereign states, and declare, that the people thereof owe no allegiance or obedience to George the third, king of Great Britain; and I renounce, refuse and abjure any allegiance or obedience to him; and I do swear that I will, to the utmost of my power, support, maintain, and defend the said United States against the said king, George the third, and his heirs and successors, and his and their abettors, assistants and adherents; and will serve the said United States in the office of _____, which I now hold, and in any other office which I may hereafter hold by their appointment, or under their authority, with fidelity and honour, and according to the best of my skill and understanding. So help me God.” The revised version, voted 3 February 1778, read “I, _____ do acknowledge the United States of America to be free, independent and sovereign states, and declare that the people thereof owe no allegiance or obedience, to George the third, king of Great Britain; and I renounce, refuse and abjure any allegiance or obedience to him: and I do swear (or affirm) that I will, to the utmost of my power, support, maintain and defend the said United States, against the said king George the third and his heirs and successors, and his and their abettors, assistants and adherents, and will serve the said United States in the office of _____ which I now hold, with fidelity, according to the best of my skill and understanding. So help me God.”
The police clearly had a public safety issue they had to address. Still, it's awfully ironic that his behavior was allegedly deemed disorderly while the Obama supporters were behaving like a crazed mob.
Brilliantly said.
It really depends on what their assessment of the situation is. I’ve seen situations where they determined that allowing civil disobedience was the best option to keep the overall peace and was in the interest of public safety.
I was a protester in the late 60’s and early 70’s. We got away with a lot, actually. But, sometimes, they had a hair trigger, and we got our azzes kicked and hauled off to jail. LOL
I think they are saying “O-BA-MA” over and over again.
Yea, I guess so, I thought I heard something else, but I guess not.
I go with the cops on this one. The guy had that goofy sword, that is provication and had they not taken him out he and perhaps others were going to get hurt.
A cat can join a large group of cats but when a cat walks into a large group of dogs you better yank the cat out of there.
It was a 'peaceful night'; or seems so; without Media reporting the downside.
Just wait folks, before it’s all over we’ll see burning tires being shoved down over the heads of anyone deemed to be an ‘anti-Obamunist’.
Hey, it worked for Baby Doc in Haiti, you know the guy John F’in Kerry used to fawn over.
“gotta side with the cops on this”
If only the Hitler had thought of that.
He could have put the jews into camps before Crystalnacht for their own protection.
They probably arrested him for his own safety and you have point about the Prop 8.
Unfortunately, I agree, you have the freedom of speech up to the point you yell fire in a movie theater. People will get hurt. This guy would have been assaulted at the least. Welcome to "The New World Order", also known as TEOTWAWKI.
Anyone disagrees, please wear a T-shirt with a racist word on it to a ball game. Its your right, but your either stupid, or looking for a fight.
This won’t be the most popular post here, but ...
The cops probably saved him from serious injury or death. They tried to get him to leave, but he refused. The crowd was already turning ugly toward him. When they started chanting Obama! Obama! Obama! the police cuffed him and took him away - to safety.
All it would have taken to turn the crowd into a rioting mob would have been for one Obama supporter to get physical. The man would have been stomped and a full scale riot would likely ensue. Some people like to celebrate by smashing windows and burning cars.
There were some near hysterics shrieking his name. (Obama)
It was more frightening than anything I have seen.
That mentality lets me know that mob rules now.
So instead of breaking up the neantherdals for acting in riot form, we arrest the guy who might “cause” them to riot.
Yeah, laws are useless. It’s all about what the MAJORITY wants.
So, we have to remove an individuals CONSTITUTIONAL rights to protect him from the rioters who would be breaking the law.
And this from a Freeper...
That is what will bring this nation down.
So your logic is that McCain/Palin is the equivalent to a racist Tshirt.
I think we have our work cut out for us.
And I’m not optimistic even reading this thread on FR this morning.
No, of course not, but to the voters of Obombus, it is.
“I wonder what the military thinks?”
That’s a good question. I know the oath I took was to defend the US Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I took that oath seriously, and I’ve never waived it.
I am confident the US military, especially the officer corps, take that oath just as seriously, as do the majority of the professional NCOs; and, since we have an all-volunteer force I like to think the rank-and-file do, as well.
But it will be interesting to see what happens, what the military will do, if the Obama Administration oversteps and starts to unleash on us the legions of modern-day storm troopers he has intimated he will create. I can see a military coup d’ etat in that event, or at least a refusal to carry out certain orders.
I understand what you are saying, I really do.
I just don’t like the precident being set that an individuals rights are superceded by the mob rule.
And ironically, that same logic is what created slavery.
They are still on a "high" from the Phillies winning the World Series, and this could have escalated into a full scale riot with a lot of cops getting hurt.
Philly is a mess, to be sure, check out the you tube vids of the New Black Panthers "protecting" polling sites:
National Black Panther (NBP) goons intimidating white poll watchers in Philly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd_5SlP8IpQ&feature=related
NBP thug exhibits his highly developed intellect and integrity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek78MhY84xs&feature=related
Philly cops show up to deal with the situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTtk4iXv_xY&feature=related
Sorry about the links, I have to get to work this AM, so cut and paste.
Are you supposed to remain silent if there is a fire?
btt
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