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Russia talks war War with Russia inevitable according to former Brezhnev advisor
All News Web ^ | 8-11-08 | Masha Dimitriov

Posted on 11/09/2008 1:04:47 AM PST by hippydippy

As fears grow regarding Russia’s growing militancy and seemingly anti-western posturing after Russian President Dmitry Medvedev announced that he will deploy a short-range missile system on the doorstep of the EU in the enclave of kalingrad a prominent Jewish Refusenik has stated that the US will be at war with Russia within five years.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bho2008; coldwar; coldwar2; kremlin; moscow; obama; poland; putin; russia; sovietunion; war
This is rather worrying, Russia seems not to have shaken it's cold war attitudes-nor have we?
1 posted on 11/09/2008 1:04:47 AM PST by hippydippy
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To: hippydippy

They’ve just been biding [Biden?] their time until we were stupid enough to elect a weak, appeasing, pacifistic sock puppet.

Welcome to Obamgeddon.


2 posted on 11/09/2008 1:07:45 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: hippydippy
Can I ask your age? I fought in the Cold War, as did my father after he served in two hot wars (WWII and Korea). Do you think that just because the name has been changed to “Russia” from the “Soviet Union” that everyone in the country was somehow transformed and their minds were changed? The DPRK (north Korea), Cuba and China are still communist, and Venezuela is as close as one can be without coming out of the closet. Unless the new president completely emasculates our military, we'll be fine. The Russians and Chinese know better than to pluck the eagle's feathers, and no one else would dare. When I left the service in 1983 we had weapons that are still not talked about that keep the wolves from the door, and I daresay we've developed many more since then.
3 posted on 11/09/2008 1:12:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: hippydippy

Well, ‘ol Dick Morris was saying a couple days ago that he thinks Israel will hit Iran’s nuke facilities in a few months, starting a new Mideast War. Life could get very interesting...


4 posted on 11/09/2008 1:12:28 AM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: hippydippy

“nor have we?”

Please elaborate.


5 posted on 11/09/2008 1:12:50 AM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: hippydippy

Remember what happened under Jimmy Carter’s Presidential rein.
Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, Shah of Iran was toppled and they stormed our Embassy took our Americans hostage and Sadat was assassinated. Oh yea, double digit inflation and interest. Gasoline shortages!


6 posted on 11/09/2008 1:13:37 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: hippydippy

...in five years? One year after Bambi is out of office, I hope. Have Palin pick a ‘bright and respectable’ US Senator or House Representative from the Foreign Relations Committe who has national exposure and credentials.

In 2012, Palin will have a much broader and deeper knowledge of “world affairs”.

Putin is crazy.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 1:13:40 AM PST by chief_believer
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To: hippydippy
This is rather worrying, Russia seems not to have shaken it's cold war attitudes-nor have we?

Is 'nor have we' the question or Russia seems not to have shaken it's cold war attitudes?

How is it that these people always seem to be given the thumbs up and a whole recent history of death and destruction is ignored? The only thing about the COLD WAR that 'changed' was the Clintons set in motion to spend what was called the 'Peace Dividend', stripping DOWN our military capabilities.

Russia has spent every day since trying to build back their military hook or crook.... remember 'oil for rotten food' and how many billions they paid Saddam for oil contracts....

8 posted on 11/09/2008 1:15:15 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: hippydippy
They are just waiting for Geo W to leave office.

BHO is going to be more than tested by countries that are anti-American.

9 posted on 11/09/2008 1:15:21 AM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll bet Hippy Dippy is a troll, a spy. Member since Nov. 5th 2008.Yeah, nice try.
He sounds like an Obamabot a useful idiot for the socialist revolution.

The army of “the one” is out here to infiltrate and destort
the truth.

Obama is their man. I think he has any interest in promoting the resurgence of the USSR.


10 posted on 11/09/2008 1:22:15 AM PST by ChiMark
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To: hippydippy

peace through strength, war through weakness. That’s how the world works.

al qaeda saw Americans as weak after 8 years of clinton. Then came Bush. He appeared dumb and incompetent and remember his response during 9/11 with the kids? Bush had to fight 2 wars to make up for his weakness.


11 posted on 11/09/2008 1:24:25 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Unless the new president completely emasculates our military, we’ll be fine.”

Precisely. That’s why I’m worried.


12 posted on 11/09/2008 1:27:26 AM PST by baa39 (www.FightFOCA.com - innocent lives depend on you)
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To: ari-freedom

Notice that this troll is not responding to postings.

drive-by postings.


13 posted on 11/09/2008 1:28:34 AM PST by ChiMark
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To: hippydippy

Everytime the bear is on life support, the USA has bailed them out with foreign aid. They always come back with the same belligerent attitude.


14 posted on 11/09/2008 1:29:29 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: chief_believer
Putin is crazy.

Like a fox!

15 posted on 11/09/2008 1:30:43 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: hippydippy; Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; Rushmore Rocks; milford421; PGalt; LibertyRocks

Ping.


16 posted on 11/09/2008 1:32:21 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: ChiMark

Actually I put that ‘not have we’? thing in to simply avoid someone making that comment-as would happen on so many forums, I see that won’t be a problem here-ingore it.


17 posted on 11/09/2008 1:34:03 AM PST by hippydippy
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To: ChiMark

I don’t see the problem with the post


18 posted on 11/09/2008 1:36:52 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: ChiMark

He has any interest in promoting the resurgence of USSR?

I don’t know if Hippy is a troll...
Anyway Russia don’t need promotion from anyone to wage its wars and go on with its agenda.

OSSAMABAMA has no control here


19 posted on 11/09/2008 1:37:02 AM PST by Ulysse
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To: hippydippy

The Russians are not to be trusted EVER. They will always use some perceived edge in power to their gain. They also have a mental defect similar to liberalism that makes them feel entitled. The stupidest things the W administration did was let them gain economic power. W believes a strong Russia is in our interest. Nothing could bee further from the truth.


20 posted on 11/09/2008 1:47:30 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: hippydippy
This is rather worrying, Russia seems not to have shaken it's cold war attitudes-nor have we?

It would seem that even with the FR servers being down for a day, that we haven't shaken the ever persistent trolls.

Any troll with a screen name like 'hippydippy' could suck a golf ball through a garden hose.

hippydippy - since November 5, 2008

I'll be watchin' you.
21 posted on 11/09/2008 1:48:33 AM PST by mkjessup (0bama the President-elect? 'Reverend' Jeremiah Wright IS a prophet: God has just damned America.)
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To: hippydippy

Russia won’t have to go to war with us. Their plan with BO is to re-form the Soviet Union. BO will oblige when they ask us to join it.


22 posted on 11/09/2008 1:50:38 AM PST by Rennes Templar (The Messiah and the Religion of Fleece)
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To: hippydippy

Yeah Barry, let’s unilaterally disarm and decimate our military. Let’s forget about that Star Wars stuff, too.<p<Wetting your short pants yet, son?


23 posted on 11/09/2008 1:53:09 AM PST by informavoracious (U.S.A. 1776-2008 R.I.P.)
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To: mkjessup

As I said I put that ‘nor have we’ to avoid a dozen replies that would say ‘are we any better’ you cant win can you.


24 posted on 11/09/2008 1:53:50 AM PST by hippydippy
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To: hippydippy

Not with a name like ‘hippydippy’ you can’t. LOL


25 posted on 11/09/2008 1:55:02 AM PST by mkjessup (0bama the President-elect? 'Reverend' Jeremiah Wright IS a prophet: God has just damned America.)
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To: hippydippy
to avoid a dozen replies that would say ‘are we any better’

Sounds like you aren't very familiar with Freepers. If you are serious about being a Freeper I would sugest mostly laying a little lower while you pick up the lay of the land. if you like what you see, stick around. If not, not.

26 posted on 11/09/2008 2:01:55 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This country has elected someone who will indeed emasculate the military.


27 posted on 11/09/2008 2:09:45 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: chief_believer

I have a background in economics and math and I can say that is pretty much the case. Barack Obama is going to be Jimmy Carter II no matter what he does. We have countervailing forces in the monetary and fiscal side of the economy. Any policy to benefit one side, hurts the other given our economic environment.

Too bad he wussed out and got a poli sci degree in college. If he had taken anything economics related, he would realize how useless his advisors are and that we are headed for a solid 2-3 year recession, longer if we get another oil supply shock from a middle east war.


28 posted on 11/09/2008 2:39:24 AM PST by DiogenesLaertius
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To: tallyhoe

This is all a replay of the 70’s. I was in Iran back then, when Carter screwed up the world. I have the feeling that Obama will again totally screw up the Middle East, Pakistan, cause a regional war, desperately trying to be a “peace president” and wreck our power and economy. In 25 years Obama will also receive the Nobel Peace prize.


29 posted on 11/09/2008 2:55:33 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: DiogenesLaertius
we are headed for a solid 2-3 year recession...

Is that 2-3 years factoring in the promised tax increases on the people who create jobs in this country?

30 posted on 11/09/2008 3:02:17 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Russians and Chinese know better than to pluck the eagle's feathers, and no one else would dare. When I left the service in 1983 we had weapons that are still not talked about that keep the wolves from the door, and I daresay we've developed many more since then.

Weapons are of little use in preventing war unless your adversaries believe you have the strength of purpose to use them.

Obama is the master of "mixed messages" that will tempt both the Russians and the Chinese to probe their meaning.


31 posted on 11/09/2008 3:20:29 AM PST by cgbg ("The Second Great Depression, popularly known as 'The Obamanation'....")
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To: Paul R.

Too bad Israel ha to do our bidding.


32 posted on 11/09/2008 3:33:44 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: hippydippy

We had an opportunity to have a good long term relationship with Russia after the breakup of the Soviet Union and WE blew it! 70 years of dealing with the Russians and the “Russian Experts” (Idiots)in our government still don’t have a clue about dealing with the Russians. Above everything else they are PARANOID...they have a system of disbelief about EVERYTHING. Regardless of our intentions...until WE prove them wrong by OUR actions they will always believe we are out to get them. Our stupidity in dealing with them is the problem..and as far as I am concerned it all goes back to the statement President Eisenhower made.. “beware the military-industrial complex”. They want to restart the cold war..they made billions on it and are crying in their beer that it is(was) over!


33 posted on 11/09/2008 3:50:24 AM PST by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Sounds like you aren't very familiar with Freepers. If you are serious about being a Freeper I would sugest mostly laying a little lower while you pick up the lay of the land. if you like what you see, stick around. If not, not.

Good advice!

Hippydippy obviously doesn't realize that

a) It's unlikely that anyone here would rush to retort "maybe we aren't any better," and

b) Many Freepers might actually argue that our Cold War attitudes back then were quite honorable and justified, and that there might be good reason today to resume an attitude of distrust vis-à-vis the Russians.

Regards,

34 posted on 11/09/2008 4:27:19 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: hippydippy

btt


35 posted on 11/09/2008 4:46:59 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: hippydippy
Tell them war is not necessary, we've already surrendered.
36 posted on 11/09/2008 5:41:29 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: hippydippy

Russia is a dying country and Putin is delusional

Countries fall from within( as we are in the process of doing )
and Russia is a walking corpse whose male average age span is now 59 and a country where the population is declining
Oil revenues are falling and the economic disaster that is going to hit us will hit them also

China will probably gobble up Russia’s Far East areas in the future


37 posted on 11/09/2008 5:45:31 AM PST by uncbob
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To: hippydippy

Impossible. We now have a pansy in an empty suit in the “Office of the President-Elect.” There can be no war, only surrender.


38 posted on 11/09/2008 6:20:04 AM PST by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: hippydippy

Russsia knows that Americans will not sign up to defend our allies under an Obama presidency. As far as the military goes I believe many of our men and women will be retiring now and will NOT come back to serve under this marxist. Sign ups will also be down.

The rest of the world will see what its like to live under tyranny now that they have gotten their leader. Good luck Israel - Jews voted 70% for Obama - the people who would of stood up and supported you are gone - middle America, the ones that die for our freedoms have a new battle and its not going to take place in the military.


39 posted on 11/09/2008 6:22:03 AM PST by sasafras (TIME FOR A RESURGENCE - FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - NO MORE COMPLAINING - LET'S GET BUSY!)
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To: uncbob

“Russia is a dying country and Putin is delusional”

Russia knows that its life depends on its death - therefore watch them gobble up the weak - and use the resources and the exposure to wreak havoc. This is not about land this is about power and percieved power.


40 posted on 11/09/2008 6:24:30 AM PST by sasafras (TIME FOR A RESURGENCE - FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - NO MORE COMPLAINING - LET'S GET BUSY!)
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To: hippydippy

Welcome to FR.


41 posted on 11/09/2008 6:31:15 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Putin is a closet Soviet Premier. Putin has said that the fall of the USSR was the greatest geopolitical calamity. Putin has never revoked his membership in the Communist Party Soviet Union or the Communist Party Russian Federation, and even spoke at a CPRF meeting saying that the US is at fault for the economic collapse.


42 posted on 11/09/2008 8:40:24 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...
Russia/Soviet/Coldwar2 PING!!!

To be added to or removed from this list, please FReepmail me...

43 posted on 11/09/2008 8:42:38 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: alexander_busek

OK I think I got the point-thanks.


44 posted on 11/09/2008 2:03:57 PM PST by hippydippy
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To: hippydippy; ex-Texan

The potential flash points the Kremlin will instigate will be the Polish border, the Ukraine, Estonia (again) and Georgia (again), coupled with Moscow’s weapons sales (support) for Islamic & communist tyrannies, such as Iran, Syria(Hezballah-Hamas), Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Libya, plus other anti-Western dictatorships. It’s back in the USSR time, just in time to test Obama and his Carter leftovers.


45 posted on 11/10/2008 3:47:05 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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