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"Yes We Can . . . Ban Guns"--Obama Announces Gun Ban Agenda Before The Final Vote Count Is In
National Rifle Association ^ | November 07, 2008 | NRA-ILA

Posted on 11/09/2008 2:44:27 AM PST by Perseverando

Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign slogan, "the audacity of hope," should have instead been "the audacity of deceit." After months of telling the American people that he supports the Second Amendment, and only hours after being declared the president-elect, the Obama transition team website announced an agenda taken straight from the anti-gun lobby--four initiatives designed to ban guns and drive law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers out of business:

"Making the expired federal assault weapons ban permanent." Perhaps no other firearm issue has been more dishonestly portrayed by gun prohibitionists. Notwithstanding their predictions that the ban's expiration in 2004 would bring about the end of civilization, for the last four years the nation's murder rate has been lower than anytime since the mid-1960s. Studies for Congress, the Congressional Research Service, the National Institute of Justice, the National Academy of Sciences, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found no evidence that gun prohibition or gun control reduces crime. Guns that were affected by the ban are used in only a tiny fraction of violent crime-about 35 times as many people are murdered without any sort of firearm (knives, bare hands, etc.), as with "assault weapons." Obama says that "assault weapons" are machine guns that "belong on foreign battlefields," but that is a lie; the guns are only semi-automatic, and they are not used by a military force anywhere on the planet.

"Repeal the Tiahrt Amendment." The amendment--endorsed by the Fraternal Order of Police--prohibits the release of federal firearm tracing information to anyone other than a law enforcement agency conducting a bona fide criminal investigation. Anti-gun activists oppose the restriction, because it prevents them from obtaining tracing information and using it in frivolous lawsuits against law-abiding firearm manufacturers. Their lawsuits seek to obtain huge financial judgments . . .

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2ndamendment; abuhussein; audacity; audacityofdeceit; banglist; bho2008; brady; cnsf; communist; confiscation; democrat; guns; legaltheft; lp; manthebarricades; marxist; nra; obama
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So he's not going to take away our Second Amendment Rights? Maybe he won't, but he didn't say anything about his Civilian National Security Force now did he?

Freepers, be sure and sign up for the NRA Legislative Alerts by e-mail while you're at their site.

1 posted on 11/09/2008 2:44:29 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

bump


2 posted on 11/09/2008 2:47:13 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Perseverando

Drunk drivers and medical malpractice kill more people every year than guns do.

Ban alcohol, cars and quacks!


3 posted on 11/09/2008 2:49:08 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Salamander

Stupidity kills more than that.


4 posted on 11/09/2008 2:51:28 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (An inadequately policed Conservative)
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To: Perseverando; All
America Held Hostage- the Obama Files...
Click the picture:


5 posted on 11/09/2008 2:53:23 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Sunset of America...)
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To: Salamander
"Ban alcohol, cars and quacks!"

So, you would deprive me of the meds I need to feel good enough to drive a car I no longer have to a job that does exist anymore?

Thanks! I guess Tovarich Obama will have to redistribute something in my direction.

BTTT
6 posted on 11/09/2008 2:54:22 AM PST by shibumi (...vampire outlaw of the milky way...)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Ban idiots!


7 posted on 11/09/2008 2:54:37 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Perseverando

This is really a no brain er...how else is he going to retain power.DUH!


8 posted on 11/09/2008 2:55:46 AM PST by jrd
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To: shibumi

Walk!
Take a bike!

Your carbon footprint is killing us all!

Save Earth!

[collect the whole set of planets and win valuable prizes!]


9 posted on 11/09/2008 2:56:48 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Perseverando

According to Obama, pump action shotguns, rifles that shoot further than 300 yards and handguns shorter than 8 inches will be banned as “assault weapons”.


10 posted on 11/09/2008 2:56:53 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Salamander
"Your carbon footprint is killing us all!"


I wear a size 13EEE.
11 posted on 11/09/2008 2:59:13 AM PST by shibumi (...vampire outlaw of the milky way...)
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To: Perseverando

The house-to-house search by the CNSF will happen after the Iranians blow up Tel Aviv and the Russians invade Eastern Europe once again, Oh and Chavez and Whichever Castro is breathing will co-opt all of So America....
When? I’ll get back to you, have to see how fast we descend into Facism..


12 posted on 11/09/2008 3:01:19 AM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Perseverando

You can’t simply declare a law permenant


13 posted on 11/09/2008 3:04:42 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Salamander
Walk!
Take a bike!

Walking and biking cause me to emit harmful gases into the atmosphere.

14 posted on 11/09/2008 3:07:23 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: roamer_1

“Walking and biking cause me to emit harmful gases into the atmosphere”.

Especially after eating Mexican Food.


15 posted on 11/09/2008 3:08:30 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner.)
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To: Perseverando
Look, Obama is not going to ban guns.

He's only going to ban our guns.

16 posted on 11/09/2008 3:09:09 AM PST by Mojave (http://www.americanbacklash.com/)
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To: Salamander

you forgot “fill your tires” on that non-existent car


17 posted on 11/09/2008 3:10:33 AM PST by applpie
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To: Shady

This guy will be a one termer for sure.He can do a lot of damage in four years.Hopefully the mid terms will limit his power.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 3:11:03 AM PST by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: shibumi

Several species just went extinct because of you.

I hope you’re happy.


19 posted on 11/09/2008 3:11:30 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Perseverando; All
By the way- after much soul-searching ( and looking in the family grocery money checkbook to see if we could spare it ) we renewed our memberships in the NRA, GOA, and the 2nd Amendment Foundation.

If we'd had more to spare, we'd have re-upped Second Amendment Sisters and JPFO, but that was all we could manage here.

I urge all member to think on this, well.

You may not get another chance.

20 posted on 11/09/2008 3:11:43 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Sunset of America...)
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To: roamer_1

Too much information.....:))


21 posted on 11/09/2008 3:12:35 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Always Right
You can’t simply declare a law permenant

Remember Obama says: "Yes we can!"

All things are possible with the Obamassiah . . . except the Second Amendment.

22 posted on 11/09/2008 3:12:40 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Always Right
You can’t simply declare a law permenant

And you can't just make a redneck obey it either...

23 posted on 11/09/2008 3:12:56 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: Perseverando
Freepers, be sure and sign up for the NRA Legislative Alerts by e-mail while you're at their site.

Please join the NRA if you can. We have to gear up now in the next two months for what looks like will be the greatest assault by an incoming administration on the Second Amendment since FDR and Clinton.

The telephone number is 1-877-NRA-2000.

Also, I would recommend joining other gunowners orgnizations, such as the Second Amendment Foundation (1-800-426-4302) and Gunowners of America (1-703-321-8585).

Your dues will help pay for what will be an expensive fight. I remember the early days of the Clinton administration well, and it is far more timeconsuming and expensive to fight the gungrabbers in the Congress with no hope of a veto.

The gungrabbers are celebrating the Kenyan Clown's victory, and now believe that gun control is a winning issue:

The Brady Campaign has issued an in-depth report called "Guns & The 2008 Elections: Common Sense Gun Laws Won, The NRA Lost, & What it Means."

The analysis highlights what happened in states with high gun ownership and states where the National Rifle Association spent millions on ads to attack the Obama-Biden ticket.

The report shows that support for gun laws can be a winning message for politicians and not a dangerous political "wedge" issue. It makes the case that voters want pragmatic solutions to protect their families and communities from gun violence and know that sensible gun laws won't hurt legitimate gun owners. (Source: http://www.bradycampaign.org/.)

This is going to be bad time for all of us, and if you want to preserve the Second Amendment, it's going to be an expensive one.

24 posted on 11/09/2008 3:13:43 AM PST by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: Salamander
Too much information.....:))

I am just trying to think of my fellow man, and save the planet... and the squirrels...

25 posted on 11/09/2008 3:15:00 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: applpie

That was Shibumi’s non-car.

I’m using an eco-friendly goat cart, at present.

[the “emissions” make good fertilizer and when the “motor” goes bad, I can feed it to my dogs].....;]


26 posted on 11/09/2008 3:15:06 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Perseverando

The way I see it, buying a boatload of ammo now means that you can sell it to your friends at a profit under the table later.


27 posted on 11/09/2008 3:16:02 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: roamer_1

Oh, well, if it’s “For The Squirrels”, I’m down with it.

[”nuttiest” cause ever]....;-D


28 posted on 11/09/2008 3:16:31 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: shibumi

why isn’t the NRA and the Republican party out there running commericals or are we waiting until after his Royal Highness Coronation?


29 posted on 11/09/2008 3:21:24 AM PST by volslover
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To: Perseverando

I’m tempted to go out and buy some of the guns that I know wil be banned soon, but unless there is a way to purchase them without leaving a permanent paper trail, Obama’s goons will just show up at my door one day asking me to hand over the AR-15 etc.


30 posted on 11/09/2008 3:32:06 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: volslover
why isn’t the NRA and the Republican party out there running commericals or are we waiting until after his Royal Highness Coronation?

Good question. It may be because we were in a state considered safe for Mac, but I never saw a one, from either, during the election, except the national ones on the networks.

31 posted on 11/09/2008 3:32:33 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Sunset of America...)
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To: volslover

What makes you think they can get airtime now???

The MSM is notorious for refusing to run NRA ads.


32 posted on 11/09/2008 3:33:37 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Always Right

No, but he can pass a new assault weapons ban, which unlike the last one, won’t include a sunset provision.


33 posted on 11/09/2008 3:34:40 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Perseverando

I’m sure he plans on only letting people who register all their guns, pay an annual fee to be allowed to own them, (Like Canada) qualify for a “license”, and keep them “safe” in a Government controlled facility, you know, where Children and those with “mental” problems cannot get hold of them. (Conservatism will ten be deemed as a “mental” condition.)

Obama’s “Security Force” will also be charged with watching web sites like this, to identify those with “mental” problems and promptly get warrants, etc, to search and confiscate their firearms.

They will also ban ammunition sales and manufacture, except for government use.


34 posted on 11/09/2008 3:40:44 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go?)
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To: Salamander

As Larry the Cable Guy says: Guns don’t kill people. If you can blame guns for killing people, then I can blame my pencil for my spelling mistakes.


35 posted on 11/09/2008 3:40:46 AM PST by Dawn531
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To: Centurion2000

Be careful there......

You will be handled like a Drug Cartel kingpin. The ATF will storm your home with a swat team and cart you off to Federal Prison without a trial.


36 posted on 11/09/2008 3:43:57 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go?)
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To: NavVet
I’m tempted to go out and buy some of the guns that I know wil be banned soon, but unless there is a way to purchase them without leaving a permanent paper trail, Obama’s goons will just show up at my door one day asking me to hand over the AR-15 etc.

See my tagline ... remember that oath you swore?

37 posted on 11/09/2008 3:45:16 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: FBD

ping for later read


38 posted on 11/09/2008 3:46:53 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: NavVet
No, but he can pass a new assault weapons ban, which unlike the last one, won’t include a sunset provision.

Doing so will be difficult without the support of the Blue Dogs and those Democrats elected from Conservative-leaning districts in 06 and 08. The very same ones who caused the Congress to step in to set DC straight on it's attempts to circumvent the SCOTUS handgun ban ruling.

If the NRA and GOP (but more the NRA) put a LOT of pressure on those Dem Congressmen, they're gonna realize that their own Party and President are putting their seats in jeopardy and possibly selling them down the river. I don't see them sitting quietly by and letting that happen, especially if TV/radio adverts and lit drops are happening in their districts. They're going to completely freak out and either stand up to their Party/President (so much for a "honeymoon"), or we're going to see a repeat of 1993/94 and a lot of them are going to jump ship to the GOP.

The most important thing here is to publicize, publicize, publicize this issue. Did I mention that we need to PUBLICIZE it? If handled correctly, this could very well set the tone for the rest of the Obama Administration ... people will be presented with hard evidence that he's a Leftist trojan horse and he WILL lose support. Especially with the Conservative elements in his own Party.
39 posted on 11/09/2008 3:47:46 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: backhoe

Save money - go life.


40 posted on 11/09/2008 4:00:44 AM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Perseverando

If the Big O was successful into banning all gun ownership and his Gestapo force has untold amounts of money to reward those that turn in their neighbors I kid you not there will be an unbelievable amount of extremists that have watched TV shows about using ordinary items available in junk yards, kitchens, backyards and every hardware store in the US and with all these resources plus returning vets that have seen IED’s it will be a rout, Hollywood writers could not create a script to compare to the vast resources a ticked off American can come up with.

Many of us have a skill, and that skill can be innocently adapted.

With shows like CSI many of us know of the methods used by investigators to find the guilty.

The Big O would have to completely shut down all shows even vaguely hinting of subversive practices, even innocent shows.

And then the stores would be subjected about selling articles that can be used as materials, stores across the country will require “papers” when you shop if you buy bleach.

America will lose its freedom in a lot of areas, why? All because there will be a president elect that wants “change” and the change will be of the ideology of supporting his beliefs or the beliefs of those that have planned for the destruction of America.

And they are doing it, right now.


41 posted on 11/09/2008 4:01:48 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: volslover
"...why isn’t the NRA and the Republican party out there running commericals or are we waiting until after his Royal Highness Coronation?"

The Republicans are licking their wounds. The NRA has been (and is) running ads. The problem is that many media venues will not run their advertising.

42 posted on 11/09/2008 4:01:59 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: NavVet

It’s true that “unpapered” guns are preferred to those on a 4473 form, but recall that this only `registers’ the gun at the point of initial retail sale.

There’s not a federal law I know of that requires you to notify the authorities when you have sold, transferred, or otherwise disposed of the firearm listed on that 4473.

“In order to have a registration law, there must also be a deregistration law”

If they come to your house, you can say,

“I sold it for cash”

“I threw it into the lake/river/ocean just to keep you from getting your hands on it”

If they search your house and come up empty-handed, what is your crime (unless martial law is in effect)?


43 posted on 11/09/2008 4:02:03 AM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My cartridges are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: NavVet

Private sales (between two non-FFL individuals) devoid of any paperwork are still legal in most states.

I live in one: Texas.

This, coincidentally, has a complementary effect, if you live in such a state. The Obamaniacs come around and ask for the AR, you claim you sold it to a private buyer a few weeks before the ban went into effect. Unless you’re really unlucky and are one of the first people they went to (unlikely) you will have gotten enough warning to hide your weapons where the Obamaniacs won’t find them.

Of course, if they’re going door to door, it may then be time to begin to consider USING the rifles once they leave your premises.


44 posted on 11/09/2008 4:02:47 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: elcid1970

Some states now require all firearm sales to go through an FFL, just FYI.

If you live in such a state, move immediately.


45 posted on 11/09/2008 4:03:52 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NavVet
...Obama’s goons will just show up at my door one day asking me to hand over the AR-15....

There will be no asking.

Here's how these things work. Informers. These will be your O-ba-ma co-workers who heard you say something about guns, hunting, the Constitution, or just plain don't like you. They have a quiet word with the O-Political officer at your place of employment.

Next, At dawn your neighborhood is surrounded by squads of police with dogs, maybe ATF agents.

Then they shoot your dogs, cats, hamsters, gerbils, etc. You and your family and any neighborhood "friends" will be dragged from your homes. Trussed and forced to kneel while your home is dismantled because you have obviously hidden things in the wall, under floorboards, etc.

You and your weeping family will remain on display during the whole ordeal, as the prototypical "enemy of the People". Rabble rousers will incite the mob for some street justice. Followed by bbq and re-distribution of your goods.

If you survive the "street justice" you will be billed for all expenses incurred. And this is the good version. Usually it's just Molotov cocktails at night.

46 posted on 11/09/2008 4:04:26 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: elcid1970

Another clever one that someone else thought of:

After getting the word and hiding your guns, cast several thousand pound concrete blivets in your front or back yard. When they come by, point them to the blivets and inform them that the weapons they seek are probably in them. Watch the fun - most ATF search teams will not be equipped with cranes or 5 ton trucks.


47 posted on 11/09/2008 4:06:05 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: All

Gun control is actually people control.

I started the process of acquiring my Tennessee carry permit Saturday; I completed the course work and shooting 48 rounds at various distances. Now here is the question - Do I want Komrad Obama to know that I have a gun and allowed to carry it? In tenessee the carry permit is included in the data base the cops access during traffic stops. I have not purchased a firearm since the era of the instant background check except two rifles through the curio and relic law.


48 posted on 11/09/2008 4:06:13 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: Pelagius of Asturias

In which case, they already “know” you have multiple guns, so you might as well get the permit.


49 posted on 11/09/2008 4:08:27 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Perseverando
The only question is how many of the 63+ million morons who voted Yes We Can in 2008 will be voting No You Can't 1n 2010
50 posted on 11/09/2008 4:10:25 AM PST by hflynn ( Soros would not make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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