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Russian navy: 20 dead from poison in sub accident
AP, via Yahoo! News ^ | November 9, 2008 | STEVE GUTTERMAN

Posted on 11/09/2008 4:31:13 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner

The fire safety system on a new Russian nuclear-powered submarine malfunctioned on a test run in the Sea of Japan, spewing chemicals that killed at least 20 people and injured 21 others, officials said Sunday.

It was Russia's worst naval accident since torpedo explosions sank another nuclear-powered submarine, the Kursk, in the Barents Sea in 2000, killing all 118 seamen aboard.

The victims died of poisoning from Freon gas that was released Saturday when the fire-extinguishing system accidentally turned on, said Sergei Markin, an official with Russia's top investigative agency.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: accident; akula; deathtoll; freon; kremlin; navy; russia; russiannavy; submarine
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To: mlocher
Is this the Interntional Crisis Biden was talking about?

No, that's going to involve stealing the wealth of individuals, a national curfew, and a police state. Maybe not so international at first, at least until Obama's "allies" join in to help crush the uprising from US citizens that won't stand for the new fascism bestown upon them.

21 posted on 11/09/2008 5:11:22 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: meyer
Maybe not so international at first

If any states cede from the union, it could be more internation quicker than you suggest. (smile).

22 posted on 11/09/2008 5:13:49 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: backhoe

I’m not sure how you define poison. I’ve been involved in a massive freon leak aboard a submarine, and it was handled as a “Poison Gas” event. Many of the crew inhaled enough of the freon to make them very sick. Fortunately, none of us died in the incident.


23 posted on 11/09/2008 5:14:26 AM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

New? its am Akula II


24 posted on 11/09/2008 5:14:26 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

WORLDS MOST DANGEROUS JOBS: Fishing boats in the Bering Sea from Alaska. Nuke sub crewman on Soviet subs.


25 posted on 11/09/2008 5:14:39 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Terrible for the sailors/submariners and their families.

I’ve been in a computer room when the Halon 1301 balls opened and let loose. I’m not sure I would have made it out of the room in time, but for a co-worker with really long legs who assisted me.

It would be a very frightening way to die.


26 posted on 11/09/2008 5:14:46 AM PST by Roses0508
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To: backhoe

Thanks, I couldn’t remember the name of the movie.

The Russkies can build something bigger than us, they can build a LOT cheaply and basic,it was that lack of close tolerances that made firearms like the AK47 excell in battlefield conditions.

Their subs will do the job and the diesels nowadays can be quite stealthy, and as we all know from the movie The Hunt for Red October they can be massive in firepower. The Akula class is a formidable hunter/killer sub and they have built a full titanium hulled sub.
But in trying to compete with the US they in time pretty much bankrupted themselves, many subs are sunk at dock and I do not think they have any Typhoon class operational.


27 posted on 11/09/2008 5:15:18 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Is it true that the fire extinguishing system was made in China?


28 posted on 11/09/2008 5:19:07 AM PST by Enterprise (No Oil for Democrats!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
It wasn't immediately clear why personnel affected failed to activate the individual breathing kits they were supposed to have, he said.

They didn't have them would be my guess.

29 posted on 11/09/2008 5:26:53 AM PST by csvset
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Good men died, let us pray for their families.


30 posted on 11/09/2008 5:29:39 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mlocher
If any states cede from the union, it could be more internation quicker than you suggest. (smile).

I'm in favor of letting things unfold a bit, but if (and that's a big IF) they go the way I fear, I will gladly report for duty with the state(s) that seceed.

31 posted on 11/09/2008 5:31:34 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: NavVet

I thought they outlawed Halon because it destroys the O-zone layer?


32 posted on 11/09/2008 5:36:46 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Eye of Unk

Most folks do not know of an incident on a Russian sub off the Carolina coast that had a reactor meltdown. Some very brave heros died keeping it from blowing and taking out a large part of our coast.


33 posted on 11/09/2008 5:40:26 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Prayers for the families. My father adopted four boys whose father had died on the USS Oriskany and I caught a glimpse of how hard a tragedy like this affects children and wives. I pray God provides for these families and comforts them.


34 posted on 11/09/2008 5:41:20 AM PST by jer33 3
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ping


35 posted on 11/09/2008 5:41:22 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I just recently watched an episode of the BBC series Spooks. The Season 7 Episode 2 was about a Russian sub attempting to tap into a transaltantic cable in an attempt to disrupt British communications.

It caused me to recall the previous Russian sub "accident". Now there is another "accident"?

It makes one go "hmmmmmmmm".

Oh, yeh, in Spooks, that Russian sub experienced an "accident" too.
36 posted on 11/09/2008 5:45:25 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: csvset

Yes thats rather strange, on subs even old old ones there are breathable air manifold fittings all through theboats that you can plug into similar to a mechanics shop air tool plug that they can breath off of.
There is more to the story of course that we won’t really hear about, it could actually be something similar to the Kursk in that they were testing something new and it blew up on them.


37 posted on 11/09/2008 5:49:06 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The Akula class carry up to 12 Granat submarine launched cruise missiles.

Granat has a range of about 3000 km and delivers a 200 kiloton warhead .


38 posted on 11/09/2008 5:49:38 AM PST by Strategy
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To: mlocher
Is this the Interntional Crisis Biden was talking about?

No, you will not need to ask that question when it comes.

39 posted on 11/09/2008 5:58:18 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Eye of Unk
You're likely close. I have a feeling we may find this new suppression system was retrofitted to the Akula IIs to avoid another Kursk-type explosion (i.e. a torpedo fuel explosion causing a massive detonation two minutes later).

All submariners share a common bond and enemy, the sea. My prayers for the lost.

40 posted on 11/09/2008 6:01:39 AM PST by Jonah Hex ("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
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