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Rebuild The Party
Rebuild the Party Website ^ | November 9, 2008 | Unknown

Posted on 11/09/2008 8:04:44 AM PST by Pondo

As Republicans, we face a choice.

Either we can spend the next several months -- or years -- trying to figure out what just happened, excusing our defeat away as a temporary blip or the result of a poor environment, and waiting for Barack Obama to trip up. Or we can refuse to take this defeat lying down, and start building the future of our party now.

2008 made one thing clear: if allowed to go unchecked, the Democrats' structural advantages, including their use of the Internet, their more than 2-to-1 advantage with young voters, their discovery of a better grassroots model -- will be as big a threat to the future of the GOP as the toxic political environment we have faced the last few years.

The time is now to set in motion the changes needed to rebuild our party from the grassroots up, modernize the way we run campaigns, and attract different, energetic, and younger candidates at all levels.

We must be conservative in philosophy -- but bold in our approach. We don't need a slight tweak here or there. We need transformation. We can't keep fighting a 21st century war with 20th century weapons.

(Excerpt) Read more at rebuildtheparty.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitutionparty; elections; gop
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Found this website and found it of interest. Some good ideas here.
1 posted on 11/09/2008 8:04:44 AM PST by Pondo
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To: Pondo

Now is the time to become activist!!


2 posted on 11/09/2008 8:05:48 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological Narcissist as president.")
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To: Coldwater Creek

The GOP better do something to get their act together, looks like it is going to have to happen at the grass roots level.


3 posted on 11/09/2008 8:08:16 AM PST by Pondo
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To: Pondo

Republicans need to come to a decision now. Either lay down and give up, or start building a party the represents the views of the people and do it now. Get rid of the lifers in office that do nothing. Stop being afraid of saying things that might upset the other party.....tell it like it is and our people will get behind them. Try to fool the people and they will bury them. Time for a major change. Get people together and start throwing out the ones the don’t stand up to the requirements.


4 posted on 11/09/2008 8:09:22 AM PST by RC2
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To: Pondo

The Republicans have let us down for a long, long time. Bush increased the size of the federal government more than LBJ. We need to break the grip of the two party system - it is destroying this country. Libertarian, Constituionalist, we need more political parties.


5 posted on 11/09/2008 8:09:30 AM PST by austingirl
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To: Pondo
NO! Clear cut it and start over. Rebuild uses the same cr$p as before.
6 posted on 11/09/2008 8:09:59 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: Pondo

The GOP is over. It’s time for a Grand New Party, one without RINOs.

Let’s drain the swamp.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 8:11:06 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Pondo

This election was a disaster but sometimes tragedies can have positive effects. A gigantic silverlining would come if the party was rebuilt from the groundup. We have a great choice. Return to the conservatism that attracted voters to us in the first place, especially fiscal conservatism, or continue to let the Bush/McCain moderate wing lead us. If we run another McCain we likely see the same result as this time.


8 posted on 11/09/2008 8:11:20 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: austingirl

“The Republicans have let us down for a long, long time. Bush increased the size of the federal government more than LBJ. We need to break the grip of the two party system - it is destroying this country. Libertarian, Constituionalist, we need more political parties.”

That was disgusting. We had a Republican president and six years of a Republican congress and saw one of the worst orgies of spending in history. One reason we lost is because those who value fiscal conservatism no longer saw the party as a fiscally respoinsible party and for good reason. We acted like Dems when it came to spending.


9 posted on 11/09/2008 8:12:37 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: mad_as_he$$
NO! Clear cut it and start over. Rebuild uses the same cr$p as before.

The only thing we're recycling are the principles the Republicans abandoned quite some time ago.




10 posted on 11/09/2008 8:12:43 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man." - Psalm 118:8)
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To: Pondo
I am re-registering with the Conservative Party. I have been blasted for saying that already, so have at it. I am NOT a rePUBICan, I am a Conservative. I will be working to get Conservatives elected at the “bottom” level, and hopefully work them to the top.
11 posted on 11/09/2008 8:13:14 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Conservative Party...here I come!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Won't work as long as the same a’holes are around.
12 posted on 11/09/2008 8:15:28 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: Pondo

Please check out the site. It’s a good site, but seems to be taken over by Ron Paul supporters.


13 posted on 11/09/2008 8:15:52 AM PST by nicolezmomma
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To: RC2
I don't think we can “rebuild”. I think the repubes need to be destroyed and a Conservative Party born. Remember, the pubicans WERE a Conservative party, now they are infiltrated with enemies and imposters. There is no “fixing” that....only their destruction.
14 posted on 11/09/2008 8:16:20 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Conservative Party...here I come!)
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To: Pondo

The GOP is in need of some major reforms. For one they need a founding document that all GOP candidates need to adhere to or be openly reprimanded. For another they need to completely change their system of selecting candidates, open primaries are a pitfall trap as we have witnessed in several major elections. They also need to be much better organized at the local level between elections so that the base is more coherent. I’m sure that the are other reforms needed but I do know that the time for them is now and not just before the next election.


15 posted on 11/09/2008 8:17:36 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Pondo

You DON’T rebuild a crumbling, rotting edifice. You’ll BULLdoze it and start fresh. Hire a NEW architect, devise new building plans, use the best construction materials and methods, and move in!


16 posted on 11/09/2008 8:17:40 AM PST by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: Pondo
2008 made one thing clear:

The GOP is politically inept and lacks direction.

Conservatives, to survive need to place focus on 2010/2012 candidates and directives that can win with a conservative directive NOW.

No more scrambling for a last minute "fill-in"....

17 posted on 11/09/2008 8:17:43 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Pondo

The great advantage in working within an existing party is that decades of networks and organization are in place and this is no small thing even in an the modern age with near instant communication lines in place all over the world. It is, I think worth the effort to take control of the GOP, purge RINOs and liberals and make the conservative wing dominant. But this requires LEADERSHIP. Conservatives have to agree on who is to lead and on a platform that is clear, concise and easily communicated. And then they have to be motivated enough to slug it out and take back the party.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 8:17:45 AM PST by scory
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To: Doc Savage

When you bulldoze everything you run the risk of ruining what is “right” with the party. I think it might be easier to rebuild rather than starting from scratch. Use the foundation that is already there, and re-model the rooms of the building that don’t work.


19 posted on 11/09/2008 8:20:46 AM PST by Pondo
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To: Pondo
Republicans needs to “go negative” quickly. We have this idiot out there with his little “President Elect” sign on his podium and talking about Nancy Reagan's seances.
Republicans should be angry.
20 posted on 11/09/2008 8:21:07 AM PST by etradervic (The Dems didn't win as much as the GOP was defeated)
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To: fella

I think open primaries should be the first to go. This is how we ended up with McCain.


21 posted on 11/09/2008 8:21:51 AM PST by Pondo
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To: Pondo

More than drain the swamp of RINOs in the party, we also need to shed the light on the RINOs here in FR.

I’ve been promoting a litmus matrix for all of us. That way we can see what these RINOs have been trying to hide. We don’t need to ban them, in fact it’s useful to have them around. But we do need to know who they are.


22 posted on 11/09/2008 8:22:14 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Pondo
Right on. Republican Party must start with the RNC from the ground up. As far as I can see they let the party down. Within the party dump the RINO nitwits. Young new blood can sure help us. What to do with the apparently hundreds of thousands of voters in the party that let us down with their lack of support for candidates if they don't exactly meet all their requirements. There will never be the perfect candidate.

Second, may be to start a Constitutional Party. Who knows.

23 posted on 11/09/2008 8:22:58 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Pondo

I think that one of the first things we do is change how we pick our candidate. Ohio was a battleground state but by the time our primary came around our candidate had already been decided.


24 posted on 11/09/2008 8:22:59 AM PST by patj
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To: Pondo

I went to the website and read it. They do indeed have some good ideas and supporting these people is a good place to start rebuilding the conservative movement in my opinion.


25 posted on 11/09/2008 8:23:10 AM PST by scory
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To: austingirl
“The Republicans have let us down for a long, long time. Bush increased the size of the federal government more than LBJ. We need to break the grip of the two party system - it is destroying this country. Libertarian, Constituionalist, we need more political parties.”
That is a recipe for keeping DemonRATs in power forever.
The only reason that Clintoon was elected to begin with was due to splintered votes for a third candidate. Indirectly, Clinton was a lot like Obama, long on talk and short on good ideas. Gingrich took advantage of that situation and swept the house and senate two years later by selling a package to the American people. Unfortunately, many of the people swept into office became drunk with Washington power, and sold us down the drain. The GOP has to be the vehicle for “real change” in America. It needs to be given an enema, and forced to swallow some bitter medicine before it becomes healthy, but the patient will emerge stronger.
26 posted on 11/09/2008 8:24:53 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 5)
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To: Pondo

I vote for new party. I am not interested in sharing my new party with socialism-lite.


27 posted on 11/09/2008 8:25:25 AM PST by carmody
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To: Coldwater Creek

Sent a email to them. This is what I was talking about the other day.

I do have some questions for them and I did voice them. This is war. I hope they are ready to go to the mat.


28 posted on 11/09/2008 8:25:52 AM PST by waxer1 ( What is the difference between a pitbull and a hockey mom? lipstick-Gov Palin)
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To: Pondo

Of course, we are always pulling thier butts out of the fire as usual. Yes, they need us bigtime.


29 posted on 11/09/2008 8:26:30 AM PST by waxer1 ( What is the difference between a pitbull and a hockey mom? lipstick-Gov Palin)
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To: Pondo

The problem is not that the Republicans need to recruit more people - the people would come on their own if the Republicans offered a message that inspired them.

They have gotten away from conservative principles - this is why they lost!

Change that & the people will come, you won’t have to recruit them - they will come on their own.

The problem with changing that is you can’t do it with these same old elitists that are currently in charge - this is not their message, they don’t believe in it.

We either have to get rid of these people (I find that outcome unlikely - they have the money & the power) - OR - we need to have another party as our vehicle of conservative principles. This option won’t be easy, but the sooner we start on it, the quicker it will happen.

I frankly think the GOP is dead.


30 posted on 11/09/2008 8:27:37 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

I just don’t believe in the GOP anymore. The two parties are almost the same. I have the feeling that no matter what we do, the coup has already happened. Seems to me that the trillion+ bailout was the end and it happened under a Republican president. We need some vitality brought to our election process and a whole new system, IMHO.


31 posted on 11/09/2008 8:30:03 AM PST by austingirl
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To: Pondo

Interesting website, thanks. Still reading but they have some good ideas - I personally could givt a damn if it’s a new Conservative Party or a Reformed Republican Party, but practically I realize the former will take many years to get organized, years we can’t afford to waste.

In looking at “The Coalition” I couldn’t help wondering why Jim Robinson’s name should not be included. Or a designated representative from FR. Thoughts?


32 posted on 11/09/2008 8:33:19 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Pondo

I like the fact that the successful new media are supporting this. I haven’t supported or donated to the RNC the last few years but they still call with the same tired spiel (fear about democrats mostly). I understand and fear Obama and his liberal allies, but I’m not going to waste my money on an ineffective opposition.


33 posted on 11/09/2008 8:33:21 AM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: Pondo

#1 Purge the NEOconservatives and bring back true conservatism.

#2 Change the campaign rhetoric. The tactics used in the campaign were horrible, so negative turned off a LOT of voters, me included. I don’t care for Lindsey Graham but he was correct the RNC looks like a party of grumpy old men.

#3 Get new blood and I don’t mean Palin types, too fringe. If the RNC wants to win elections they have to find credible, intelligent, articulate candidates.


34 posted on 11/09/2008 8:33:37 AM PST by Zipporah
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To: fella

“For another they need to completely change their system of selecting candidates, open primaries are a pitfall trap as we have witnessed in several major elections.”

For some time now (ever since the nomination of McCain) I have been suggesting closed primaries and at least in the Republican primaries, the most conservative states vote first.


35 posted on 11/09/2008 8:34:35 AM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
NO! Clear cut it, bring in the chipper and start over. Rebuild uses the same cr$p as before.

Better

36 posted on 11/09/2008 8:37:15 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: Pondo

“I think open primaries should be the first to go. This is how we ended up with McCain.”

And front-load the more conservative states.....day one; Texas, Utah, Idaho, Louisiana.


37 posted on 11/09/2008 8:37:35 AM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: org.whodat

lol YES!


38 posted on 11/09/2008 8:38:16 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: Kevmo

“I’ve been promoting a litmus matrix for all of us”

I’m interested in checking that out.


39 posted on 11/09/2008 8:38:42 AM PST by Grunthor (Palin/Jindal 2012!)
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To: Pondo
what is “right” with the party

And what might that be, I've seen the bail out BS and the building of roads to private developments enough.

40 posted on 11/09/2008 8:39:41 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: Pondo
I think open primaries should be the first to go. This is how we ended up with McCain.

Don't forget Dodd.

41 posted on 11/09/2008 8:40:42 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Pondo
No “%*@$#&^’n” RINOs this time.

Let them join the Dems where they belong or go independent or other party.

We need to keep the party clean, clear, goal oriented and on our side.
42 posted on 11/09/2008 8:40:56 AM PST by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Pondo

The GOP had to fail, due to its very construction, due to the fact that it’s an open association.

It was inevitable.


43 posted on 11/09/2008 8:41:34 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man." - Psalm 118:8)
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To: snowrip
Let’s drain the swamp.

Yup!

44 posted on 11/09/2008 8:41:55 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Grunthor

Ain’t gonna happen. The Left has firm control of the GOP, and it isn’t going to let go of it again.

The best you can hope for is more lip service and feel-good deception.


45 posted on 11/09/2008 8:43:23 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man." - Psalm 118:8)
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To: DemonDeac
especially fiscal conservatism

The only part Ron Paul had wrong was the war on terror, but he was only 1/2 wrong on Iraq. We need constitutional conservatism across the board. Sound money, clear cut and haul out the stumps of the regulatory/legal system, drain the swamp and kill the lawyers, fiscal conservatism, and get the hell out of the way of hard working enterprising folks trying to do productive things.

46 posted on 11/09/2008 8:45:20 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: fella

Ooooops I meant Dole not Dodd. Dole was the first time I noticed the RAT cross-overs controling the nomination of the GOP.


47 posted on 11/09/2008 8:47:53 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Grunthor

Vanities Arent The Problem (Time For An FR Cleansing)
The Awesome Mind of VaBthang4 ^ | 11/06/08 | VaBthang4

Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:27:52 AM by VaBthang4

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2126945/posts?page=119#119

The best way to do this is just to start one ourselves and when we run across RINOs, we challenge them to post their own results. I get the impression JimRob isn’t interested.


48 posted on 11/09/2008 8:59:49 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance

We don’t need a new independent party. We have the American Conservative Party and the Libertarians.


49 posted on 11/09/2008 9:00:56 AM PST by rcofdayton
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To: Coldwater Creek

Would the adminstrators create a separate link for Activism, apart from news. So we can act, then create the news?


50 posted on 11/09/2008 9:01:41 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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