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Labor unions ask political backing for organizing law(Card Check -$400,000,000 for DIMS Elections)
Reuters ^ | 110908 | Reuters

Posted on 11/09/2008 9:18:51 AM PST by Fred

CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. labor unions, having helped Barack Obama win the presidency, entertain high hopes he will enact their agenda to bolster their negotiating power with employers and increase their numbers after decades of decline.

Unions have "an unprecedented amount of leverage" after turning out white middle-class voters for Obama in battleground industrial states like Pennsylvania and Ohio that he won in Tuesday's election but had lost in the Democratic nominating primaries, said University of Illinois-Chicago labor expert Robert Bruno.

"American workers won this election," said Anna Burger, chairman of the labor coalition "Change to Win" at a news conference this week in Washington. "The mandate has never been so overwhelming for a progressive economic agenda."

A cornerstone of labor's agenda is passage of the Employee Free Choice Act that unions argue restores balance to its negotiations with employers, but is described as "Armageddon" by a leading business group.

Burger said she expected the measure and other parts of the unions' agenda to be addressed in the first 100 days of the Obama administration, which takes office on January 20.

Other labor leaders sought to dampen the notion they were owed something by the incoming administration.

"That is not the way Obama works," said Bill Samuel, legislative director of the AFL-CIO, America's biggest labor organization.

"We are part of the conversation about the economy right now in a way that we weren't when the Republicans were in charge ... we see the world in the same way (as Democratic leaders)," Samuel said.

A battle is shaping up in the U.S. Senate over the Employee Free Choice Act. Its two major provisions would let prospective members sign union cards instead of waiting to hold secret ballot elections to unionize workers at a company,

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; boh2008; capone; cardcheck; chicagomob; chicagopols; corruption; gm; hoffa; labor; obamatransitionfile; secretballot; unions

1 posted on 11/09/2008 9:18:51 AM PST by Fred
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To: Fred
Its two major provisions would let prospective members sign union cards instead of waiting to hold secret ballot elections to unionize workers at a company,

And those who refuse to sign get their cars torched later that night.

2 posted on 11/09/2008 9:21:11 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: Fred

So hey why have secret ballots when we are voting in elections either...

I mean if you didn’t vote for Obama you are obviously an idiot who hates change, and a racist, bigot who loves Bush...

Maybe all future election ballots will be available online so that those that vote against the Supreme leader will be marked and “TAKEN CARE OF”


3 posted on 11/09/2008 9:22:03 AM PST by tomnbeverly (Obamanation, here comes the pogrom against Conservatives.)
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To: Fred

Great idea, if there is any employment after Øbama’s tax increase stagnate the economy


4 posted on 11/09/2008 9:22:17 AM PST by Son House (Democrats Now Get Their Chance To Prove They Are "Good For The Economy")
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To: Fred

Money has taken over our elections. I believe one way to fix this is to have people donate to a central place....take the money and split it between candidates...all of them. If they run out of money...so be it.


5 posted on 11/09/2008 9:23:07 AM PST by RC2
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To: Fred

It is payback time, of course. Will this be another example of well-established “Clintonism”? Will the Dims start to see the error of their ways with unions sooner, rather than later? GM is now begging for help from the American taxpayer because of their horrid decision to pander to their unions and build a welfare state that has bankrupted them?

Does the liberal madness just continue? Remember that libs will DO ANYTHING for a vote....no matter what the cost.


6 posted on 11/09/2008 9:24:15 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Fred

Yes, and when those “white middle class” voters in battleground states start seeing employers moving out or closing their doors . . . then what?

Some people never learn and others have to always learn the hard way.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 9:27:18 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Fred
"bolster their negotiating power with employers "

You can't "bolster" what doesn't exist.

Unions mean higher costs and lower output for employers. Unionization is localized socialism with the ultimate goal of "spreading the wealth" among its members, thereby killing the incentive for individual performance and achievement.

The employers will take one of two steps to fight this:

(1) Move offshore

(2) Layoffs/shutdowns

More of the lefts fabled "unintended consequences".

We need four years of "Atlas Shrugged" mode among conservatives...
8 posted on 11/09/2008 9:27:20 AM PST by FrankR (Let's sit back and watch the show - popcorn anyone?)
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To: Fred
First groups in this country who need to unionize with the Obamarama on a roll are Doctors and Nurses.

Obama's website, and his campaign flaks, say he intends to pay for universal medical insurance (if not medical care) with COST SAVINGS, and that's always going to mean the salaries of the doctors and nurses.

I think I could organize Fairfax County, for example, faster than almost any retail chain or manufacturing operation now that the Democrats have shown their hand.

10 minutes tops. Collect the representation cards as they leave the buildings at the end of the shifts.

I am sure a Medical Providers union not affiliated with the mamby-pamby buttkissers over at the AFL-CIO could negotiate some interesting payraises that'd make Obama-Care at least twice as costly as the present system.

9 posted on 11/09/2008 9:28:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fred

How on Gods green earth is this supposed to work in this economy. They have to extend unemployment benefits when these systems already lack the money to do this. This is not the time to do this.


10 posted on 11/09/2008 9:28:40 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: Fred
Unions are not going to be able to change economic reality. They can change the law to allow Union leaders to hold shotguns on employees when they vote and it will do nothing but gain them the resentment of employees. I am sure employees will be happy when they go out on strike and their teetering company goes under because of it and they are jobless.

I am sure it will be great when they are forced to unionize and the factory immediately moves to Thailand with their jobs. You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.
11 posted on 11/09/2008 9:28:58 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Fred

How much did the United Mine Workers give to Obama to commit economic suicide?


12 posted on 11/09/2008 9:29:31 AM PST by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: RC2

I must disagree with you. What you suggest is tantamount to compelling support for people who oppose you. Besides, Hugo Chavez, Al Quaeda and the Chicoms would never go along with that.

We don’t need the equivalent of the Fairness Doctrine in campaign contributions. We need laws against foreign influence upheld, prosecuted and severely punished.


13 posted on 11/09/2008 9:29:42 AM PST by trubolotta
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To: Fred
I think a decline in orders for anything sold or manufactured in Pennsylvania and/or Ohio would be in order; maybe they'll figure out how to make it on liberal "dollars" alone.

I'm thinking I should concentrate my buying power [which ain't much] to states that supported conservatism.

These manufacturers being extorted by the union should move to another state...or just out of the country.
14 posted on 11/09/2008 9:30:40 AM PST by FrankR (Let's sit back and watch the show - popcorn anyone?)
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To: Fred
labor unions, having helped Barack Obama win the presidency, entertain high hopes he will enact their agenda to bolster their negotiating power with employers “

What of if these employers go out of business from the insane Labor Union demands, like Ford and GM are about to do right now?
Who will the Labor Unions use their Obambi inspired gangster, strong arm tactics on? Empty factories , run by non-existent managers?
Labor Unions might do well to remember that the best paying outfits like Microsoft, Apple, etc don't even have any unions, and they have far better conditions of work that the unionized companies.

15 posted on 11/09/2008 9:31:20 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Fred
Other labor leaders sought to dampen the notion they were owed something by the incoming administration.

If we're lucky, Obama will be mostly business-as-usual in DC. Some of the crooks are smart enough to know that you can't slay the golden goose and get all the eggs at once. Let's hope they are listened to.

16 posted on 11/09/2008 9:31:30 AM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: Fred

Instead of “unprecedented” leverage, the unions have absolutely no leverage.

Where else can they go?

Obama wrote a lot of checks he can’t cover, and this measure is one which is likely to be shuffled to the deck as soon as any other. Afterall, big labor only represents 7% of the electorate. In addition, the unions have unprecedented experience in spinning defeats in labor conflicts into “victories”. Deferring completion of this promise won’t be as costly as others.


17 posted on 11/09/2008 9:34:40 AM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: FrankR

We’re vacationing in WV this year rather than VA.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 9:38:28 AM PST by randita (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: SmokingJoe

The Dems are clamoring for a bailout of the US automakers. This, too, is payback for union support. The unions want the taxpayers to foot the bill for their generous retirement benefits. It has nothing to do with saving the industry.

If the unions are hurting so much, how did they manage to contribute so much to BO’s campaign?


19 posted on 11/09/2008 9:40:24 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: tcrlaf
How much did the United Mine Workers give to Obama to commit economic suicide?

Liberals have always been good at balancing their pandering to BOTH the environmentalists and the unions.

The carbon tax will change that forever. There is a chance that the affected unions may end up supporting Republicans as a result.

20 posted on 11/09/2008 9:41:53 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Son House; All

Big Labor’s Bill to End Secret Ballots Gains Momentum(UAW spend 400,000,000 to elect DIMS)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128040/posts


21 posted on 11/09/2008 9:42:28 AM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and Obummer is a WHINING marxist)
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To: Fred

This legislation may not fly with the southern blue dog dems. They have lots of non-union factories and auto plants. The foreign owned auto assembly plants will just close shop and move overseas. The unions have been able to hold the gun to American manufacturers but the foreigners will not tolerate it.

Lots of jobs and votes to be lost as a result.


22 posted on 11/09/2008 9:43:56 AM PST by biff
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To: Fred
The Unions for the big three Auto industry are responsible for destroying all three industries. No bailout for them. All the bailout will do is fee the huge employee benefits. The Unions are like hungry leeches.
23 posted on 11/09/2008 9:47:28 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Fred
Clearly secret ballots are un-American.

Voting should be open, your choice should flash on a board when you vote, that way there's no possibility of fraud, brownshirts will be at least a hundred yards away, and your vote will be posted on the internet, using the bandwith saved by not disclosing the names of under $200 contributors.

24 posted on 11/09/2008 9:47:31 AM PST by SJackson (http://www.jewish-history.com/emporium/)
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To: Pining_4_TX
The Dems are clamoring for a bailout of the US automakers”

Any government bailout will only have a temporary effect.
Remember Chrysler?
Mercedes Benz took over Chrysler, and pumped in billions of dollars into Chrysler for years. In the end they had to give in, say enough and walk away.
No amount of bailout is going to save the fundamentally flawed GM and Ford, especially if the Obambi unions come up with even more insane demands, even while the super efficient Toyota and Honda factories in the South continue to churn out better cars with their NON-unionized labor. A bailout will only postpone the inevitable.

25 posted on 11/09/2008 9:56:58 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: trubolotta

I thought about that but I would view it as supporting our political system, not supporting candidates.


26 posted on 11/09/2008 10:11:55 AM PST by RC2
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To: Fred

Boy is Burger going to be surprised if she really thinks American workers won the election. What American workers really won is the ‘right’ to pay the expenses for American non-workers.


27 posted on 11/09/2008 10:17:05 AM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: biff

The auto makers in the South should be a roll model for the TARDS in Michigan, but noooooooo, the plan is to force the successful auto makers in the South to unionize.

Also, the the southern states have done an excellent job in working with the automakers and have given them incentives to put their factories in their states, but noooooooooo, the TARDS in Michigan are calling this subsidies and think that the other states should subsides their corruption, greed, and overpaid wages.

At Obozo’s press conference, he had the HEAD TARD (governor of Michigan) standing right behind him drooling and looking forward to the latest gravytrain from the candy man DIMS and BHO.


28 posted on 11/09/2008 10:31:36 AM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and Obummer is a WHINING marxist)
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To: RC2

But our political system is about candidates, and if I favor one more than another, why should the one I oppose get anything from me? Socialism for free speech is what public financing is - that’s how I see it. I would rather run the risk of a George Soros pumping millions toward his candidate than have government decide who gets the “free speech” money. Money talks and we have to come to grips with that reality, not curbing free speech on a “lets make everyone equal” policy.


29 posted on 11/09/2008 10:39:23 AM PST by trubolotta
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To: PapaBear3625

If the union members don’t vote as the leaderships wants they will not have a job. This is especially true in the Longshoreman’s union where they choose daily what jobs you get, if any, and to “upset” the boss is bad.


30 posted on 11/09/2008 10:41:38 AM PST by Liaison
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To: Fred

With GM and Ford tanking, they’ll be lucky to have jobs. With the housing market tanking, they’ll be lucky to have jobs. I predict less production and more unemployment.


31 posted on 11/09/2008 11:11:56 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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